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locutus12

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Originally posted by: UDT89
Originally posted by: judasmachine
I completely agree with the last paragraph, and last sentence. No one gets to sit on top forever, no one...

Well considering the US has only really been a "superpower" for approx 100 years..... thats not a long time at all.

I agree no one sits on top forever, but if you look at the Roman Empire.....we're still infants in the whole dominating nation thing.


true but the world moves a hell of a lot faster today than it did 2000 years ago. hell the british empire didnt last that long :p

Don't say that the US won't be a major power in 20 years. The only thing that would keep that promise would be to reelect Bush. These type of Religious Republicans are what's bringing the country down.

Personally, I'll support Clinton for two reasons. First, she's promising universal healthcare, which I think is needed. In New Jersey, car insurance is needed. I think health care is just as important. Second, Bill is her husband. The team did great things for us before, I wouldn't be surprised if they did great things for us now. Sure she's not perfect, but she's better than Bush.

I hope she wins :) i think she has the largest pair of testicles of any senator in the last 30 years :) scary and decisive. She would get the job done, potentially an American Margaret Thatcher in the making, all be it a touch more liberal which is good.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Europe has come a long way in changing the way people think about transportation while we seem to be stuck in this 50's mentality on the subject.
how? the A380? or worse, the A350? or do you mean that relic from the 1800s, the train?

unfortunately, the train is the future. and the a350/380 are only having problems because they can't build the damn things at a reasonable rate.

the A350 hasn't even gotten off the drawing board yet. and airbus has to start thinking about an A320 replacement, so the A350 may never get off the ground. the A380 stands a good chance of never reaching the break even point of about 500 aircraft.


i'm not sure why the train is the future. the only study i've seen comparing the two, the plane was more efficient. while i really do like riding in trains (the french countryside at 150 MPH is great), planes are better for any journey of 500+ miles (even better when airports are near city centers, like houston hobby to dallas love). of course, by better i mean 'time involved' and 'energy efficiency'. trains are generally more comfortable and security isn't much of a hassle.
 

t3h l337 n3wb

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I don't believe in the election system of the U.S. There are so many uneducated people that don't deserve the right to vote. For example, a lot of stupid, uneducated people will probably not vote for Obama because his name sounds like Osama. This foolishness is why there should be a voting eligibility test or something.
 

SuperFungus

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Originally posted by: locutus12
She would get the job done, potentially an American Margaret Thatcher in the making, all be it a touch more liberal which is good.

I don't mean to be a grammar nazi, my own posts are often error-ridden, but "albeit" is it's own word for future reference.
 

tuteja1986

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Clinton's daughter hates video games ;( and that means trouble for me : ) !! please vote someone eles... a person that doesn't hate vidoe game. Vote for a person that is ready to go after the oil greedy company making billion of profit by increasing the price in fake fear of oil shortage.
 

Shortass

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Haha, I really enjoyed the OP. I really need to get to England soon.

Also, some of the responses on the first few pages are absurd. Someone offers an outside opinion and everyone gets up in arms, while offering ZERO counter evidence. Way to go, Team America, I'm embarrassed.
 

locutus12

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Originally posted by: SuperFungus
Originally posted by: locutus12
She would get the job done, potentially an American Margaret Thatcher in the making, all be it a touch more liberal which is good.

I don't mean to be a grammar nazi, my own posts are often error-ridden, but "albeit" is it's own word for future reference.

I do apologise, I thought this was an internet forum but based on your post I am obviously incorrect and it must be some form of scholastic work of significant global importance.

P.s. Nazi should be capitalised. :p


Originally posted by: Shortass
Haha, I really enjoyed the OP. I really need to get to England soon.

Also, some of the responses on the first few pages are absurd. Someone offers an outside opinion and everyone gets up in arms, while offering ZERO counter evidence. Way to go, Team America, I'm embarrassed.

Please don't be embarrassed, people are entitled to their opinions whether they are long or short, pro active or reactive, the fact that the majority of the initial posts were reactive with no logical conclusions or counter arguments to them was unfortunate but rest assured my opinion of Americans is not painted using the same brush for all. :)
 

brandonbull

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Originally posted by: locutus12
Originally posted by: UDT89
Originally posted by: judasmachine
I completely agree with the last paragraph, and last sentence. No one gets to sit on top forever, no one...

Well considering the US has only really been a "superpower" for approx 100 years..... thats not a long time at all.

I agree no one sits on top forever, but if you look at the Roman Empire.....we're still infants in the whole dominating nation thing.


true but the world moves a hell of a lot faster today than it did 2000 years ago. hell the british empire didnt last that long :p

Don't say that the US won't be a major power in 20 years. The only thing that would keep that promise would be to reelect Bush. These type of Religious Republicans are what's bringing the country down.

Personally, I'll support Clinton for two reasons. First, she's promising universal healthcare, which I think is needed. In New Jersey, car insurance is needed. I think health care is just as important. Second, Bill is her husband. The team did great things for us before, I wouldn't be surprised if they did great things for us now. Sure she's not perfect, but she's better than Bush.

I hope she wins :) i think she has the largest pair of testicles of any senator in the last 30 years :) scary and decisive. She would get the job done, potentially an American Margaret Thatcher in the making, all be it a touch more liberal which is good.

Team Clinton was great. They helped build Al-Queda and made Bin Laden the most famous person on the planet and helped advance the Chinese nuke tech by about 20+ years. Gee, thanks Team Clinton.

 

SuperFungus

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Originally posted by: locutus12

I do apologise, I thought this was an internet forum but based on your post I am obviously incorrect and it must be some form of scholastic work of significant global importance.

P.s. Nazi should be capitalised. :p

Sorry, i guess i shouldn't have posted it, it's just that when i read "all be it" it didn't make any sense to me untill i figured out you meant "albeit". I meant the correction in the friendliest possible way, and i'm sorry if i've offended you at all, that wasn't my intention.
 

RichardE

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: locutus12
in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Wake up America, the world is changing, the western world needs you need to change with it.

WTF! What are you smoking? We ARE the western world, europe is the tag along.

No. We are the single, most powerful, best country on the planet and will remain that way. This kind of euro-elitist crap is what ticks me off. We saved your butts so many times it isn't even funny.

There was a western world before the US...

Read history much?
 

WackyDan

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Originally posted by: sixone
Clinton was not impeached for cheating on his wife. Anyone who says he was is either a liar or stupid.

Right... He was impeached for lying under oath. That is a big difference.
 

WackyDan

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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: sixone
Clinton was not impeached for cheating on his wife. Anyone who says he was is either a liar or stupid.

so what was he impeached for? creating a budget surplus?

No.. but he should have been. :)

Do some googles on how The clinton admin "balanced the budget". In fairness, you'll also find what every other admin has done to attempt to do so. The gov't does not have to abide by the same accounting rules as what it sets for corporate america.

In fact every administration adjusts the accounting rules in order to make the budget look better than it really is. Clinton never actually had a surplus. Bush's promise to balance the budget is the same load of crap as well. They'll cook the books by changing the accounting rules for the fed, and we'll just keep spiralling down the crapper thanks to it.
 

Wreckem

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Originally posted by: eleison
Originally posted by: locutus12

in 20 years the USA will no longer be the worlds economic driving power, it will no longer be the worlds richest country, and it will no longer be the most affluent country and eventually its military will be surpassed in size and technology. the Chinese, a communist country, will have successfully overtaken the USA in terms of economics, and with the massive workforce to back them up, it is doubtful anyone will be able to top them for a very long time.

Wake up America, the world is changing, the western world needs you need to change with it.


This is so anti-american...

Its like going up to someone asking them why they are so much of a f*cck up and telling them in the future their mom's going to get raped by a sea monkey...

The US has been the target of naysayers for a while... first it was the japanese who was going to overtake the US, then it was the EU.... now its the chinese...

Japan, is what going on 15 years of economics decline.

EU, while the Euro is worth more than the Dollar, Europe by in large is struggling economically

China, is on a crash course of economic disaster, or political revolution.

 

Doom Machine

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as an american, the only problem i see with the majority is that they all complain

we have everything in the freaking world and people complain about not enough onions on a bigmac or something, i swear if you gave every american a 100% free car with a long scratch on the hood...98% of them would complain about that scratch being there
 

WackyDan

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Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
I don't believe in the election system of the U.S. There are so many uneducated people that don't deserve the right to vote. For example, a lot of stupid, uneducated people will probably not vote for Obama because his name sounds like Osama. This foolishness is why there should be a voting eligibility test or something.

So you are for removing the rights of others based on this? Becasue they may or may not vote in a manner that you approve of?

Think about that.

 

WackyDan

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Originally posted by: tuteja1986
Clinton's daughter hates video games ;( and that means trouble for me : ) !! please vote someone eles... a person that doesn't hate vidoe game. Vote for a person that is ready to go after the oil greedy company making billion of profit by increasing the price in fake fear of oil shortage.

So a 7 to 8% profit in line with what other non-oil/non energy related companies make isn't acceptable? So I guess the profit margin INtel makes on your computer's processor means we should go after them too?

 

Arcex

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Originally posted by: WackyDan
Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
I don't believe in the election system of the U.S. There are so many uneducated people that don't deserve the right to vote. For example, a lot of stupid, uneducated people will probably not vote for Obama because his name sounds like Osama. This foolishness is why there should be a voting eligibility test or something.

So you are for removing the rights of others based on this? Becasue they may or may not vote in a manner that you approve of?

Think about that.

Actually I agree with him on this. People should be required to demonstrate a certain level of knowledge concerning the candidates and general intelligence otherwise they are not helping the system with an uneducated vote, they are harming it.

And he didn't say to remove their rights because they aren't voting in a manner they approve of, he said they should have to demonstrate basic intelligence.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Arcex
Originally posted by: WackyDan
Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
I don't believe in the election system of the U.S. There are so many uneducated people that don't deserve the right to vote. For example, a lot of stupid, uneducated people will probably not vote for Obama because his name sounds like Osama. This foolishness is why there should be a voting eligibility test or something.

So you are for removing the rights of others based on this? Becasue they may or may not vote in a manner that you approve of?

Think about that.

Actually I agree with him on this. People should be required to demonstrate a certain level of knowledge concerning the candidates and general intelligence otherwise they are not helping the system with an uneducated vote, they are harming it.

And he didn't say to remove their rights because they aren't voting in a manner they approve of, he said they should have to demonstrate basic intelligence.


While at should be a Religious competency section too.
 

gcy

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Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
I don't believe in the election system of the U.S. There are so many uneducated people that don't deserve the right to vote. For example, a lot of stupid, uneducated people will probably not vote for Obama because his name sounds like Osama. This foolishness is why there should be a voting eligibility test or something.

:roll:

 

piasabird

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You might think differently if you were Monika???

The president of the USA ran a smear campaign against the woman, and then lied about her on nation television. Now if he said "Yes, I did have sexual relations with that woman, and he thought she was a sexy lady", we might think differently of him.

Then there is the fact that Mrs Clinton did not divorce the creep! She just took all the humiliation because she thirsted for power. Plus I dont think a Lawyer makes a good political leader. Just being a lawyer disqualifies her in my mind.
 

WackyDan

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Originally posted by: Arcex
Originally posted by: WackyDan
Originally posted by: t3h l337 n3wb
I don't believe in the election system of the U.S. There are so many uneducated people that don't deserve the right to vote. For example, a lot of stupid, uneducated people will probably not vote for Obama because his name sounds like Osama. This foolishness is why there should be a voting eligibility test or something.

So you are for removing the rights of others based on this? Becasue they may or may not vote in a manner that you approve of?

Think about that.

Actually I agree with him on this. People should be required to demonstrate a certain level of knowledge concerning the candidates and general intelligence otherwise they are not helping the system with an uneducated vote, they are harming it.

And he didn't say to remove their rights because they aren't voting in a manner they approve of, he said they should have to demonstrate basic intelligence.

The problem with that is who gets to set that bar? I think the reality is that only about half of Americans vote. The really stupid ones are probably not voters already. I consider myself a fairly smart guy, and politically aware. My brother is practically a rocket scientist but doesn't give a hoot about or follow politics.....So we would exclude him from voting?

there is something fundamentally wrong about the idea.