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Nothing like militant states where a power hungry head of state intimidates the peoples' representatives into endorsing BS policy. Congress does not approve wars . . . Congress is responsible for declaring war. Minor detail in that Constitution-thing . . . you know that document that no one acknowledges anymore.No justification was needed...Congress approved it and we simply enforced what the UN (France, Germany, Russia) refused to do.
If the shoe fits . . . considering many Americans believe we found WMD in Iraq, Saddam was linked to 9/11 (or Al Qaeda), and the Sun orbits the Earth.people are sheep!
people are stupid!
idiots believe everything the Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bush White House tells them.
Who needs a conspiracy when the country is populated by morons?!morons!, conspiracy to hide the truth! we are the terrorists!
Well I'm glad to know you already know how dumb Americans: 2 dumb to 1 smartOriginally posted by: heartsurgeon
linky
i can predict the liberals responses already:
people are sheep!
people are stupid!
idiots believe everything the Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bush White House tells them.
morons!, conspiracy to hide the truth! we are the terrorists! Dean will win!!
Isn't this the same "aspirin factory" YABAs use to attack Clinton-era intelligence? Is it your contention that al Qaeda and Iraq conspired together to produce aspirin? The bastards, no wonder we had to attack.
there you have it folks!Who needs a conspiracy when the country is populated by morons?!
Read the War Powers Act of (1972, I think) and, moreover, we didn't declare war...the authorized the use of force. Though I have argued that the War Powers Act is unconstitutional (usurps power from the Congress), I believe your 'Constitution-thing' argument is moot.Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Congress does not approve wars . . . Congress is responsible for declaring war. Minor detail in that Constitution-thing . . . you know that document that no one acknowledges anymore.[/i]
Why don't you let people respond first instead of acting like a fvckin 5 year old.Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
linky
i can predict the liberals responses already:
people are sheep!
people are stupid!
idiots believe everything the Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bush White House tells them.
morons!, conspiracy to hide the truth! we are the terrorists! Dean will win!!
So is it safe to assume, using your logic, that 1/3 of Americans are?Originally posted by: jjsole
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Polls have been all over the board the past few months however its doubtful 2/3 of americans are that stupid.
Wow you sound like the good little Limbaughtista. One person falls for your trap and you feel obliged group everyone who might not agree with you with him. Nice JobOriginally posted by: heartsurgeon
there you have it folks!Who needs a conspiracy when the country is populated by morons?!
this is the essence of the elitist...they know more, they know better, they know whats best for you.
that's the basis of centralized, totalitarian goverments, that's the essence of communism....that's the hubris of the liberal. your just to stupid to know what's best for you..
these are the kind of people you want to run the goverment?
Please humble me with your logic and witt and explain how you extract this assumption.Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
So is it safe to assume, using your logic, that 1/3 of Americans are?Originally posted by: jjsole
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Polls have been all over the board the past few months however its doubtful 2/3 of americans are that stupid.
On the question of finding weapons of mass destruction, for example, 33 percent of those who said Fox is their primary news source believe we found them. For the other news sources, it was CBS, 23 percent; NBC, 20; CNN, 20; ABC, 19; PBS/NPR, 17; print media, 11.
On the link between Saddam and al-Qaida, the percentages were: Fox, 67; CBS, 56; NBC, 49; CNN, 48; ABC, 45; print media, 40; and PBS/NPR, 16.
This is the same media that President Bush is now accusing of "filtering" the news out of Washington and telling only the "bad side" about Iraq and thus "forcing" him to give interviews to local television stations to "counter" them. He and Dick Cheney will undoubtedly attempt to spread even more misinformation.
Half truths and lies by Bush during 7OCT 2002From the "Watch What You Say" files, #5892375: a teacher at Oakland High School, CA, recently reported two students to the Secret Service after remarks they made about George W. Bush in a classroom discussion of the war in Iraq. The Secret Service then showed up at the high school and interrogated the students with neither legal counsel nor their parents present. The interrogation took place in the presence of the school principal, who, when asked by the students if they had the right to remain silent or the right to an attorney, allegedly replied, "We own you, you don't have any legal rights." Remember when the classroom used to be a place for learning and the free expression of ideas? Not any more, my friends. Welcome to Bush's America. Keep your mouth shut, look straight ahead, and don't say anything bad about Our Great Leader or they'll send the goon squad to have a quiet word in your ear. Note to conservatives who think that liberals want to turn America into the Soviet Union: are you blind?
Hmm, so a scarcely (if at all) Constitutionally-consistent law approved during a previous period of jingoist, militant fervor justifies current Bush militarism? IMHO, you are just sprinkling eau de toilette on a big steaming pile of poo.Read the War Powers Act of (1972, I think) and, moreover, we didn't declare war...the authorized the use of force. Though I have argued that the War Powers Act is unconstitutional (usurps power from the Congress), I believe your 'Constitution-thing' argument is moot.
Yea, I know...the War Powers Act is another example of a "document that no one acknowledges anymore." I would not have guessed that you viewed the Act as a "Constitutionally-consistent law." That's a very tough stance to take, if you read that "Consistution-thing" and then read the wording of the WPA...Originally posted by: BaliBabyDoc
Hmm, so a scarcely (if at all) Constitutionally-consistent law approved during a previous period of jingoist, militant fervor justifies current Bush militarism? IMHO, you are just sprinkling eau de toilette on a big steaming pile of poo.Read the War Powers Act of (1972, I think) and, moreover, we didn't declare war...the authorized the use of force. Though I have argued that the War Powers Act is unconstitutional (usurps power from the Congress), I believe your 'Constitution-thing' argument is moot.
Well, I started with the proposition that "2/3 of Americans are not that stupid," which you asserted above (realizing you said "doubtful"). Given that you did not mention the other 1/3 of the population, I assumed them to be the residual, or, in this case, those people who are stupid and cannot be classified with the other 2/3 of those who are not stupid. Then, using the logic of those opposed to war (and view all others as stupid), I assumed that the 1/3 (again, using the residual from your statistic) who opposed the war are, in layman's terms, stupid. This, sir, is how I arrived at the 1/3 of Americans are stupid assumption.Originally posted by: jjsole
Please humble me with your logic and witt and explain how you extract this assumption.Originally posted by: xxxxxJohnGaltxxxxx
So is it safe to assume, using your logic, that 1/3 of Americans are?Originally posted by: jjsole
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Polls have been all over the board the past few months however its doubtful 2/3 of americans are that stupid.
do you write copy for this news outlet?jingoist, militant fervor
So, because I believe the war was not justified I'm a liberal stupid sheep? How many of the reasons we went to war have been proven? Where is the link to 9/11? Where are the WMD? Where was the threat to the USA?Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
linky
i can predict the liberals responses already:
people are sheep!
people are stupid!
idiots believe everything the Cheney/Rumsfeld/Bush White House tells them.
morons!, conspiracy to hide the truth! we are the terrorists! Dean will win!!
i would never disrespect sheep by labling them liberal.So, because I believe the war was not justified I'm a liberal stupid sheep?
You never answered my questions. So who is the sheep if you can't make a justification? Yes, Saddam is a terrible man, but he is/was not the only one in power in a nation.Originally posted by: heartsurgeon
i would never disrespect sheep by labling them liberal.So, because I believe the war was not justified I'm a liberal stupid sheep?