Americans getting fed up with asylum seekers

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Indus

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oufff, this is nice :))))))

Idiots... full stop



If true.. idiots! Check

Lacking common sense. Check
 

sdifox

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oufff, this is nice :))))))

Idiots... full stop


They forgot nutty squirrel!
 
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SMOGZINN

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General felonies yes. Violent felonies and misdemeanors absolutely!

Shoplifting something other than food yes!
So you are okay with the police being able to throw anyone they want in jail, for any reason they want, for basically however long they want?
That is what the system you are laying out becomes. It does not matter if you are guilty or innocent. When the powers that be realize (which will happen by day 2 of this policy) that they can simply overload the courts and cause anyone they want to sit in jail for 2 years waiting trial, they will weaponize it. Then because you angered some police officer or politician you will be arrested on any charge they drum up, not even caring if it is plausible, and then you will sit 2 years awaiting trial, and as soon as the charges are tossed out and you walk out of the courtroom a free man there will be two officers waiting to arrest you again.
This isn't some slippery slope argument. We see this sort of behavior in other countries. This is literally what our government was set up to prevent, as that is exactly the sort of thing that happened in Colonial America under the King.

I wish you luck but we're in a battle for America's soul and we can't win that with our hands tied behind our back on the basis of morality over migrants. Have to keep our eye on the ball!
It is not worth winning if in doing so you become the monster you are fighting.
 

fskimospy

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So you are okay with the police being able to throw anyone they want in jail, for any reason they want, for basically however long they want?
That is what the system you are laying out becomes. It does not matter if you are guilty or innocent. When the powers that be realize (which will happen by day 2 of this policy) that they can simply overload the courts and cause anyone they want to sit in jail for 2 years waiting trial, they will weaponize it. Then because you angered some police officer or politician you will be arrested on any charge they drum up, not even caring if it is plausible, and then you will sit 2 years awaiting trial, and as soon as the charges are tossed out and you walk out of the courtroom a free man there will be two officers waiting to arrest you again.
This isn't some slippery slope argument. We see this sort of behavior in other countries. This is literally what our government was set up to prevent, as that is exactly the sort of thing that happened in Colonial America under the King.


It is not worth winning if in doing so you become the monster you are fighting.
Yes, he is arguing for the imprisonment of people for months or years without conviction of any crime. That’s incredibly evil.
 
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Indus

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It is not worth winning if in doing so you become the monster you are fighting.

Yes, he is arguing for the imprisonment of people for months or years without conviction of any crime. That’s incredibly evil.


The mood against the so-called human rights of migrants has downright soured before our very eyes. That assault in Times Square on cops was a watershed moment.

Everyone I talk to.. neighbors, friends, coworkers they all state.. they will not be surprised if Trump wins by a LOT despite his problems and his bad attitude towards us and are actually thinking of voting for him because Biden will do nothing about getting that filth away from New York.

You're probably seeing the same thing in your own circle.. you've heard the exact same conversation.. from unthinkable to realistically happening.

Liberal NIMBYism at it's very best.. turning die hard liberals into Trump voters!

I refuse to believe it's just me seeing the metamorphosis around me.. Sadly even my wife thinks Trump will win now because this mess is out of control.

And now there are even more videos making the rounds.. (I won't link em but they're out there)


If 80% of New York wants these migrants gone from whatever the numbers were 2 years ago before it started.. you're just choosing not to believe the change is happening! If anything you're in SHOCK and I don't blame you.
 
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fskimospy

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You don't get it do you..

The mood against the so-called human rights of migrants has downright soured before our very eyes. That assault in Times Square on cops was a watershed moment.
You mean the assault the NYPD instigated and then lied about?
Everyone I talk to.. neighbors, friends, coworkers they all state.. they will not be surprised if Trump wins by a LOT despite his problems and his bad attitude towards us and are actually thinking of voting for him because Biden will do nothing about getting that filth away from New York.

You're probably seeing the same thing in your own circle.. you've heard the exact same conversation.. from unthinkable to realistically happening.
I have not heard a single, solitary person say this, especially not calling people ‘filth’, which is disgusting and shameful.

Zero people. You are living in a weird xenophobic bubble.
Liberal NIMBYism at its very best.. turning die hard liberals into Trump voters!
Uhm, you realize you are the NIMBY here, right?
I refuse to believe it's just me seeing the metamorphosis around me.. Sadly even my wife thinks Trump will win now because this mess is out of control.

And now there are even more videos making the rounds.. (I won't link em but they're out there)


If 80% of New York wants these migrants gone from whatever the numbers were 2 years ago before it started.. you're just choosing not to believe the change is happening! If anything you're in SHOCK and I don't blame you.
None of this addresses your monstrous opinion that people should be imprisoned for months or years without being convicted of anything. This is anti-American and you should be ashamed of yourself.
 

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You don't get it do you..

The mood against the so-called human rights of migrants has downright soured before our very eyes. That assault in Times Square on cops was a watershed moment.

Everyone I talk to.. neighbors, friends, coworkers they all state.. they will not be surprised if Trump wins by a LOT despite his problems and his bad attitude towards us and are actually thinking of voting for him because Biden will do nothing about getting that filth away from New York.

You're probably seeing the same thing in your own circle.. you've heard the exact same conversation.. from unthinkable to realistically happening.

Liberal NIMBYism at it's very best.. turning die hard liberals into Trump voters!

I refuse to believe it's just me seeing the metamorphosis around me.. Sadly even my wife thinks Trump will win now because this mess is out of control.

And now there are even more videos making the rounds.. (I won't link em but they're out there)
So, you are saying that you are going to vote for Trump because of one issue? Then it does not matter, Democrats will always lose (protip: that is not what happens.)
There will always be that one issue that they beat the drum to make you afraid of. They literally create the issue by selective fearmongering. If it was not this it would just be something else. It has been that way for the last dozen election cycles. If not immigration then the war on drugs, if not that then

Oh, and I live in Texas, and I don't know a single left leaning person that thinks that immigration is a major issue. Overall it is good for our country, we are a nation of immigrants after all.

Oh, and one more thing...
so-called human rights of migrants
It is not so-called. They are human. They have rights. That is what that term means. Human rights are for everyone, not just the people you like.
 

Indus

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You mean the assault the NYPD instigated and then lied about?

I have not heard a single, solitary person say this, especially not calling people ‘filth’, which is disgusting and shameful.

Zero people. You are living in a weird xenophobic bubble.

Uhm, you realize you are the NIMBY here, right?

None of this addresses your monstrous opinion that people should be imprisoned for months or years without being convicted of anything. This is anti-American and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Get out to Queens/ Nassau County more bud.. you'll see it yourself. I live near Howard Beach area!

So, you are saying that you are going to vote for Trump because of one issue? Then it does not matter, Democrats will always lose (protip: that is not what happens.)
There will always be that one issue that they beat the drum to make you afraid of. They literally create the issue by selective fearmongering. If it was not this it would just be something else. It has been that way for the last dozen election cycles. If not immigration then the war on drugs, if not that then

Oh, and I live in Texas, and I don't know a single left leaning person that thinks that immigration is a major issue. Overall it is good for our country, we are a nation of immigrants after all.

I will NEVER vote for Trump!

FFS did you miss my other thread of what the Christian Taliban did to a trans girl in OK?

I'm a member of the LGBT community and if I vote for Trump that's pretty much giving him license to throw me and my wife off a building like ISIS.
 

K1052

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The mood against the so-called human rights of migrants has downright soured before our very eyes. That assault in Times Square on cops was a watershed moment.

Everyone I talk to.. neighbors, friends, coworkers they all state.. they will not be surprised if Trump wins by a LOT despite his problems and his bad attitude towards us and are actually thinking of voting for him because Biden will do nothing about getting that filth away from New York.

You're probably seeing the same thing in your own circle.. you've heard the exact same conversation.. from unthinkable to realistically happening.

Liberal NIMBYism at it's very best.. turning die hard liberals into Trump voters!

I refuse to believe it's just me seeing the metamorphosis around me.. Sadly even my wife thinks Trump will win now because this mess is out of control.

And now there are even more videos making the rounds.. (I won't link em but they're out there)


If 80% of New York wants these migrants gone from whatever the numbers were 2 years ago before it started.. you're just choosing not to believe the change is happening! If anything you're in SHOCK and I don't blame you.

I live in a border city and nobody except Trump supporters says shit like this.
 

fskimospy

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Get out to Queens/ Nassau County more bud.. you'll see it yourself. I live near Howard Beach area!
I have no doubt some mouth breathers in Queens have these attitudes. It doesn’t change the fact that in the rest of New York we don’t. (Well, Staten Island probably does, but who cares about that)

Yes though, thank you for confirming you live in a wildly unrepresentative part of NYC that’s about 75% white as compared to 30% citywide, and one of the few areas of the city that went for Trump. This is what I was trying to tell you!
I will NEVER vote for Trump!

FFS did you miss my other thread of what the Christian Taliban did to a trans girl in OK?

I'm a member of the LGBT community and if I vote for Trump that's pretty much giving him license to throw me and my wife off a building like ISIS.
You live in a xenophobic bubble. You need to get out and see what the rest of the city is like. You’ll be shocked.
 
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FFS did you miss my other thread of what the Christian Taliban did to a trans girl in OK?

I'm a member of the LGBT community and if I vote for Trump that's pretty much giving him license to throw me and my wife off a building like ISIS.
What makes you special vs the people you want to shit on?
 
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I have no doubt some mouth breathers in Queens have these attitudes. It doesn’t change the fact that in the rest of New York we don’t. (Well, Staten Island probably does, but who cares about that)

Yes though, thank you for confirming you live in a wildly unrepresentative part of NYC that’s about 75% white as compared to 30% citywide, and one of the few areas of the city that went for Trump. This is what I was trying to tell you!

You live in a xenophobic bubble. You need to get out and see what the rest of the city is like. You’ll be shocked.
But he swears he was at a Home Depot at 5pm some random day, and there were dozens of undocumented hombres lined up willing to work the graveyard construction shift! :tearsofjoy:

And FWIW having shitty neighbors is no justification for sharing their really shitty beliefs.
 
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Indus

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But he swears he was at a Home Depot at 5pm some random day, and there were dozens of undocumented hombres lined up willing to work the graveyard construction shift! :tearsofjoy:

And FWIW having shitty neighbors is no justification for sharing their really shitty beliefs.

Still are every morning and afternoon. Been that way for 30 years. Never bothered me.

Except the new bunch of migrants who wouldn't let us get a shopping cart unless you paid them. And if you got one from another place, they'd grab hold of that!
 

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Still are every morning and afternoon. Been that way for 30 years. Never bothered me.

Except the new bunch of migrants who wouldn't let us get a shopping cart unless you paid them. And if you got one from another place, they'd grab hold of that!
Were you recently carded for vinegar as well?
 
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The mood against the so-called human rights of migrants has downright soured before our very eyes. That assault in Times Square on cops was a watershed moment.

Everyone I talk to.. neighbors, friends, coworkers they all state.. they will not be surprised if Trump wins by a LOT despite his problems and his bad attitude towards us and are actually thinking of voting for him because Biden will do nothing about getting that filth away from New York.

You're probably seeing the same thing in your own circle.. you've heard the exact same conversation.. from unthinkable to realistically happening.

Liberal NIMBYism at it's very best.. turning die hard liberals into Trump voters!

I refuse to believe it's just me seeing the metamorphosis around me.. Sadly even my wife thinks Trump will win now because this mess is out of control.

And now there are even more videos making the rounds.. (I won't link em but they're out there)


If 80% of New York wants these migrants gone from whatever the numbers were 2 years ago before it started.. you're just choosing not to believe the change is happening! If anything you're in SHOCK and I don't blame you.
Noticing that everybody around me is a monster, I decided it was the moral thing to do. Thank god for excuses.