American Chopper: Senior vs Junior

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Yeah the PJD bikes have been pretty cool. Right after Paul Jr. left OCC had some shitty looking crap come out.

Not crappy, jsut looked like stock bikes.

PJDs problem is that other than the occasional "big build" he has no other revenues. He does not understand business at all. He must be burning through cash. taking everyone to Florida? Realy? 6,7 people? Hotel costs, etc. It makes no sense.

OCC atleast has "factory" bikes. it is run liek a business. That's the thing PJ does not understand. PJ also has no work ethic. He is lazy.
 

Homerboy

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Not crappy, jsut looked like stock bikes.

PJDs problem is that other than the occasional "big build" he has no other revenues. He does not understand business at all. He must be burning through cash. taking everyone to Florida? Realy? 6,7 people? Hotel costs, etc. It makes no sense.

OCC atleast has "factory" bikes. it is run liek a business. That's the thing PJ does not understand. PJ also has no work ethic. He is lazy.

I think you're missing the point though.

Bu opening PJD, he stayed on the show (making money from TLC), he kept OCC on the air and keeping people interested in that too (20% is his). He likely sold MOUNTAINS and MOUNTAINS of PJD branded crap. KA-CHING.

You have to remember these guys are multi-millionaires at this point. They could walk away tomorrow and be PERFECTLY fine for life. PJD isn't looking to build some huge monstrosity like OCC did (hell look where that got them for that matter).
 

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I've also heard that Rick Petco left OCC.

The whole people going back and forth to the two companies is funny.
 

waggy

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I've also heard that Rick Petco left OCC.

The whole people going back and forth to the two companies is funny.

wich is one of the reasons i don't watch it anymore. it reakes of desperation and being fake. just don't enjoy it and hell the bikes aren't that great. it was cool the first year or so but now? pfft.
 

Homerboy

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I've also heard that Rick Petco left OCC.

The whole people going back and forth to the two companies is funny.

I dont think that lasted though, it was between seasons or something... "RPD & Co." I think was the name of the shop/company.
 

Numenorean

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I actually don't give a shit about all the personal bullshit.

I am mainly just in it to watch some of the cool fab tech and bikes.
 

Homerboy

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Another observation (this is nothing earth shattering here)

Sr. is beyond dumb and in articulate. You'd think that after years of doing interviews and unveils he come somewhat speak well and put together a cohesive thought.

In last night's episode he did the unveil for the Bic bike and could hardly say a damned thing straight. Then they went to PJD's unveil and Paul Jr. was articulate (comparatively), intelligent (comparatively), professional (comparatively).

Sr. is just a dullard.
 

Jeffg010

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I saw the show last night and damn that Odie kid is a real dickhead. Then he come snaking back to Paul Sr. and tells him he walked out. That kid need a serous attitude adjustment.
 

Homerboy

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I saw the show last night and damn that Odie kid ia a real dickhead. Then he come snaking back to Paul Sr. and tells him he walked out. That kid need a serous attitude adjustment.

Yeap.
And Sr. took it hook line and sinker (I assume there is SOME creative editing, though the episode "A Crew Divided" seemed to paint a fairly legit picture).

I loved how Sr. right away started in on Jr. too when he's sitting there talking to Odie. I hate that I am drawn into the personal crap, but I have to say that Sr. looks like the biggest fucking hypocritical moron ever.
 

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I saw the show last night and damn that Odie kid is a real dickhead. Then he come snaking back to Paul Sr. and tells him he walked out. That kid need a serous attitude adjustment.

The funny thing about that is you can see a lot of Paul Jr. in Odie.

I guess the whole "I own 20%" went to Paul Jr.'s head, or just the typical "I'm the bosses son" thing which is not uncommon in that situation.
 

Homerboy

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The funny thing about that is you can see a lot of Paul Jr. in Odie.

I guess the whole "I own 20%" went to Paul Jr.'s head, or just the typical "I'm the bosses son" thing which is not uncommon in that situation.

That's a really good point. That IS a younger Paul Jr. more or less. I do think he has changed though and seen the error of his previous ways.

Maturity comes with age and experience in most cases.
 

lupi

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Saw a brief bit the other day when someone had it on that channel, did the one guy that got married and had a kid come back to the shop?


What's the synopsis for someone that hasn't watched the last two seasons?
 

Homerboy

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Saw a brief bit the other day when someone had it on that channel, did the one guy that got married and had a kid come back to the shop?


What's the synopsis for someone that hasn't watched the last two seasons?

Ummm

Bikes
argue
Jr. quits/gets fired
does some weak-ass design firm until his 1yr non-compete clause burns out
Jr. opens PJD to build custom bikes
argue
Bikes
 

Homerboy

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lol I don't think Sr even caught on when that was said to him :D


I'm surprised Jr put up with Odie's crap for so long.

He totally didn't catch it. I'm telling you that guy is as dumb as a box of rocks.
 

mb

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He totally didn't catch it. I'm telling you that guy is as dumb as a box of rocks.
I laughed pretty hard when that girl asked him what he is best at and he answered yelling at people :D