Discussion AMD's Soundwave ARM APU: The Beginning of Transformation !!!

[DZero]

MS is about to implode and don't do nothing to avoid that.

 

[madtronik]

All in all, you remind me of someone from beyond3d forums (was it juanrga?).
Never listening to facts presented by others, always spinning your own tale, no matter how little sense it makes.

Are you talking about that guy that said that AMD would be destroyed by ARM from below and Intel from above?

 

[NTMBK]

!!!!!!!!

Internet Strongman reference sighted! Batton down the hatches! Sound the alarms! We are not prepared for an incursion by Internet Strongman juangra!

Just wait until you find his alternative physics textbooks, ooh boy

 

[igor_kavinski]

Just wait until you find his alternative physics textbooks, ooh boy

Made in Russia?

 

[NTMBK]

Made in Russia?

Because Juan is such a famous, quintessentially Russian name

 

[Schmide]

This is the best of juanrga tech, he's from Spain btw.

https://www.juanrga.com/2018/10/basic-remarks-on-parallel-computing.html

Not the best intuition on computing, but good at presenting his arguments.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Just wait until you find his alternative physics textbooks, ooh boy

I don't think I can handle that.

 

[marees]

Is this AMD Soundwave

https://twitter.com/x/status/1977440121143361752

 

[poke01]

Is this AMD Soundwave

https://twitter.com/x/status/1977440121143361752

Why is it so big

 

[marees]

Is this AMD Soundwave

https://twitter.com/x/status/1977440121143361752

Google AI overview scolds me (gaslights me?) & says no such socket as FF5 exists

• Mobile socket names: AMD has used many mobile BGA sockets over the years. Recent BGA platforms include:
  • FP5: Used by early mobile Ryzen 7 and other processors in the Ryzen 7000 series, like the Ryzen 7 2700U.
  • FL1: Used by high-performance mobile parts, including the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D.
  • FP7/FP7r2: Used for Ryzen 7000 and earlier series mobile processors.
  • Strix Point/Strix Halo: The latest series of mobile processors use BGA sockets and are often cited by their codenames.

 

[marees]

Google AI overview scolds me (gaslights me?) & says no such socket as FF5 exists

• Mobile socket names:AMD has used many mobile BGA sockets over the years. Recent BGA platforms include:
  • FP5: Used by early mobile Ryzen 7 and other processors in the Ryzen 7000 series, like the Ryzen 7 2700U.
  • FL1: Used by high-performance mobile parts, including the Ryzen 9 7945HX3D.
  • FP7/FP7r2: Used for Ryzen 7000 and earlier series mobile processors.
  • Strix Point/Strix Halo: The latest series of mobile processors use BGA sockets and are often cited by their codenames.

Never mind

Leaks Suggest AMD AM5 Future Support for Ryzen 9000G "Gorgon Point" & EPYC 4005 "Grado" CPUs

PC hardware watchers continue to pore over official AMD repositories and adjacent databases, in the hopes of finding unannounced next-gen technologies. Olrak29 and InstLatX64 have presented their latest Team Red-related findings; apparently reaching across futuristic desktop, mobile, and...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[marees]

Never mind

Leaks Suggest AMD AM5 Future Support for Ryzen 9000G "Gorgon Point" & EPYC 4005 "Grado" CPUs

PC hardware watchers continue to pore over official AMD repositories and adjacent databases, in the hopes of finding unannounced next-gen technologies. Olrak29 and InstLatX64 have presented their latest Team Red-related findings; apparently reaching across futuristic desktop, mobile, and...

www.techpowerup.com

More confirmation from Google search

Using the never-before-seen FF5 socket, AMD is also allegedly working on a new lineup of mobile offerings dubbed Soundwave. The rumor mill positions this as a low-power, Arm-based device from AMD, employing Radeon graphics. This might be AMD's response to Nvidia's rumored N1X SoCs for the WoA (Windows on Arm) ecosystem. If these SoCs are anywhere near their launch, we'll probably hear more about them at Computex.

AMD is reportedly readying Ryzen 9000G (Gorgon Point) and EPYC 4005 (Grado) CPUs for AM5

Along with several new Ryzen mobile offerings.

www.tomshardware.com

 

[adroc_thurston]

Using the never-before-seen FF5 socket

yeah same swimlane as Van Gogh (that one was FF3 iirc).

 

[Tigerick]

I have asked Gemini to overlap FF5 and STX FP8: Soundwave total package is about 86.4% of STX: most likely due to better power efficiency (STX has to draw up to 54W to support turbo boost). And please check the table I created in the frontpage. As I said, Soundwave is the successor of STX to compete with Apple M5 and Qualcomm's X2. So please don't believe in non-sense specs of 2P+4e and 4 RDNA3.5 CU with improved ML from MLID...

 

[NTMBK]

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I have asked Gemini to overlap FF5 and STX FP8: Soundwave total package is about 86.4% of STX: most likely due to better power efficiency (STX has to draw up to 54W to support turbo boost). And please check the table I created in the frontpage. As I said, Soundwave is the successor of STX to compete with Apple M5 and Qualcomm's X2. So please don't believe in non-sense specs of 2P+4e and 4 RDNA3.5 CU with improved ML from MLID...

The socket size is almost entirely down to pin count, which is driven by how much I/O is on the chip. This probably just means that FF5 has fewer PCIe lanes.

 

[Tigerick]

If we scale directly from the package size, I could estimate the die size of SoC: 200mm2 @ N3P. Sound about right.

FYI, Dimensity 9500 with 1+3+4 8-core C1 series (same as Soundwave), 12-core GPU, 100TOPS NPU and 5G Modem has about 140mm2 @ N3P. Hoho, think guys! You still think AMD will use 2+4 CPU and 4CU GPU?

ARM SoC	Die Size	Memory Interface	CPU	GPU	NPU	5G Modem
Dimensity 9500	140 mm2	64-bit LPDDR5x	1+3+4 8-core C1	12-core G1-Ultra	100 TOPS	Integrated
Soundwave	~ 200 mm2	128-bit LPDDR5x	C1	RDNA4.5 ?	80-110 TOPS	External ?
X2 Elite Extreme	287 mm2	192-bit LPDDR5x	12+6 18-core Oryon v3	X2-90 24CU	80 TOPS	Integrated