[AMD] World's First Shipping FreeSync-Enabled Displays (CES)

[DiogoDX]

http://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/...2560x1440-IPS-120-Hz-Variable-Refresh-Monitor

1. Interesting
2. Perfect monitor?

Make one 32" and I'm in.:biggrin:

 

[Paul98]

24 fps or 23.97 is probably the lowest you would need to go for watching older films from dvd etc to avoid 3:2 pulldown. and obviously no one in the pc masterrace would ever deign to play a game where they would get minimums below 24. so 30 fps doesnt sound too off the mark.

You don't need to get down to 24fps, you only need a multiple.

 

[Creig]

HotHardware had a crew at CES and had the following to say after inspecting the AMD FreeSync displays:

AMD expects there to be a total of 11 FreeSync displays available by March at varying refresh rates, resolutions, and panel sizes, including IPS panel options and the aforementioned 144Hz gaming panels. Obviously a full comparison between G-Sync and FreeSync will have to wait for head-to-head hardware, but our team reports that the two standards appeared to perform identically.


Assuming that continues to be true, AMD could have an advantage with this feature -- FreeSync reportedly doesn't add any additional cost to display panels, whereas the ASIC hardware required for G-Sync reportedly increases panel retail cost by ~$150. Of course, it's ultimately up to the manufacturers themselves whether or not to charge a premium for FreeSync monitors -- there's just no baked-in cost increase from specialized hardware.

http://hothardware.com/news/amd-at-ces-freesync-carrizo-front-and-center


It's not a review, but at least first impressions appear hopeful for the technology.

 

[Gloomy]

After watching the PCPer video and reading the Anandtech report AMD is bringing Panel Self Refresh to the external market without the "self".

The Samsung monitor shows the current hz number which is always the same as the frame number/time.
So i guess they're changing the hz in the vblank intervall and set the display to a new refresh rate.

We need hand on reports to see if this is practicable for gaming.

It's being demoed using Tomb Raider 2013 and that Lego game. Like, actual gameplay.

What more do you need?

 

[DigDog]

still no reviews though

 

[Final8ty]

http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1807&p=13256

 

[gorobei]

http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=1807&p=13256

LG MOTION240 Impressions
I was able to sneakily run TestUFO. I was able to visually observe it to be about 2-3ms persistence (based on TestUFO Panning Map Test readability), with far less strobe crosstalk than unoptimized/untweaked BENQ Blur Reduction, but more strobe crosstalk than optimized/adjusted BENQ Blur Reduction, ULMB, or LightBoost. Colors looked far better than LIghtBoost. It's a fairly good, even if basic, implementation, of a motion blur reducing strobe backlight.

Initial FreeSync Impressions
Now, my initial impressions of FreeSync is that it's on an equal footing to GSYNC in motion quality. At least by first impression, without looking closely at them "under a microscope". FreeSync certainly eliminated stutters and tearing, just like GSYNC does, even if the methods/technologies work somewhat differently. A future article will probably compare GSYNC and FreeSync. Many sources have reported various pros and cons of GSYNC and FreeSync, but a major one that sticks out: Lower cost of implementing FreeSync.

nice to see something similar to lightboost from benq.

i really hope the 40" 4k monitors coming out get FS sooner rather than later.

 

[DigDog]

i want to see actual numbers, and slomo frame comparisons.

and for those who think im a amd hater, i'm buying this immediately. i'll gladly switch to AMD and lose Shadowplay just to have affordable high refresh.

 

[RaulF]

i want to see actual numbers, and slomo frame comparisons.

and for those who think im a amd hater, i'm buying this immediately. i'll gladly switch to AMD and lose Shadowplay just to have affordable high refresh.

You know AMD has build in recoding software now standard with their new drivers, using the AMD gaming evolved app that comes with the driver!

 

[Creig]

Blurbusters also had the following to say:

I played around with the options of the windmill. It had an option to sweep the framerate. The sweep was seamless, seeing framerate bounce around from 40fps through 60fps without stutter. It looked every bit as good looking at G-SYNC at the same rates (40-60fps in Pendulum Demo). Disable FreeSync and VSYNC brought about ugly tearing and stutters, so it was certainly cool to see FreeSync doing its job.

 

[Flapdrol1337]

You know AMD has build in recoding software now standard with their new drivers, using the AMD gaming evolved app that comes with the driver!

You can record for free with afterburner, also uses the h264 encoders on amd, nvidia and intel gpu's. The reason people like shadowplay is because it bypasses directx so you can record with absolutely no performance hit.

 

[AtenRa]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rY0ZJJJf1A

 

[Leadbox]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7-jn07jy8I

 

[DiogoDX]

You can record for free with afterburner, also uses the h264 encoders on amd, nvidia and intel gpu's. The reason people like shadowplay is because it bypasses directx so you can record with absolutely no performance hit.

Same as Game Evolved App.

 

[Creig]

Are the new FreeSync capable monitors using the exact same panel as their identical non-FreeSync models or is there a difference in the panels? In other words, is it just the updated scaler that makes a monitor FreeSync capable or do the panels themselves have to support variable refresh rates?

 

[dacostafilipe]

Are the new FreeSync capable monitors using the exact same panel as their identical non-FreeSync models or is there a difference in the panels? In other words, is it just the updated scaler that makes a monitor FreeSync capable or do the panels themselves have to support variable refresh rates?

Mostly a controller/firmware thing.

There's even a Iiyama Prolite 4K display that will get a Firmware upgrade to support FreeSync. Something AMD talked about a year ago.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Mostly a controller/firmware thing.

There's even a Iiyama Prolite 4K display that will get a Firmware upgrade to support FreeSync. Something AMD talked about a year ago.

That turned out false and have been debunked by the company. And oc.uk have removed all references to freesync.

 

[dacostafilipe]

That turned out false and have been debunked by the company. And oc.uk have removed all references to freesync.

Iiyama only asked Gibbo to remove that information, there's nothing about the upgrade story not being true. Maybe they where just waiting for the FreeSync announcement?

Huddy told at the CES2015 that it's possible and that Iiyama will make it possible. Also, there are other monitors (from Samsung) that use the exact same board/controller/LCD but that now support FreeSync. Don't think we need more prove then that.

 

[bystander36]

Iiyama only asked Gibbo to remove that information, there's nothing about the upgrade story not being true. Maybe they where just waiting for the FreeSync announcement?

Huddy told at the CES2015 that it's possible and that Iiyama will make it possible. Also, there are other monitors (from Samsung) that use the exact same board/controller/LCD but that now support FreeSync. Don't think we need more prove then that.

We do not know if that is true, one way or the other. So you can't make that statement. Not until we do get concrete information. Being possible can be taken as, "it is possible it will be able to be upgraded, but also possible it won't." We'll have to wait and see.

 

[Creig]

There is currently conflicting information whether or not whether certain current monitors will be able to be firmware upgraded to utilize FreeSync. I'd say you should wait until the manufacturers themselves actually come out and say Yea or Nay. Just because a monitor is capable of being upgraded doesn't necessarily mean that the manufacturer will offer the update itself.

 

[Phynaz]

There's news coming out of CES that there will be Adaptive Vsync monitors coming out that will not have Freesync branding but will be compatible with Freesync.

http://techreport.com/news/27650/here-240-fps-footage-of-amd-freesync-tech-and-some-new-info

 

[dacostafilipe]

We do not know if that is true, one way or the other. So you can't make that statement.

Iiyama never denied the possibility to upgrade. They just asked Gibbo to remove the information about Iiyama doing the upgrade for the client. That's how I did understand Gibbo's message in the Forum.

Maybe I missed something, please feel free to point me to the missing information.

 

[dacostafilipe]

This Asus here is great! 120hz IPS, 2560x1440 for 599$ ?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1deIQjp4M0

 

[bystander36]

Iiyama never denied the possibility to upgrade. They just asked Gibbo to remove the information about Iiyama doing the upgrade for the client. That's how I did understand Gibbo's message in the Forum.

Maybe I missed something, please feel free to point me to the missing information.

Gibbo mentioned that they will either attempt to do what ever service they need to do, which requires you to send them your monitor, or they'll swap it for a Freesync version. Not that the existing monitors could definitely be updated. He only said he'd try to make things right in one way or another.

Unless you have some other citations, you are simply speculating.

 

[HurleyBird]

This Asus here is great! 120hz IPS, 2560x1440 for 599$ ?!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1deIQjp4M0

Good God, that's a winner right there.