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IEC

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Originally posted by: Markfw900
Originally posted by: michaelpatrick33
Why is there such a proliferation of extreme Intel trolls all of sudden on Anandtech? I am used to the AMD lovefest on this forum but the nastiness of the recent Intel troll surge is suprising.
With the release of the X2 it is like the dark logs of eternal night are being overturned and showing off the troll mushrooms of Santa Clara.

Intel dualcore is fine and so is AMD's. Make a personal choice and be happy. Why is our ego so wrapped up in silicon?
The AMD X2 chips were shipping May 31 to the major players and most OEM and web builders had chips arriving June 16-25. What is the problem?

I'm glad sombody else noticed the proliferation of Intel trolls.

I noticed too, and I love how they're just tools. You hear that Dothan? You're a TOOL. BAN and GOODBYE :|
 

Dothan

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Originally posted by: ariafrost
I noticed too, and I love how they're just tools. You hear that Dothan? You're a TOOL. BAN and GOODBYE :|

lol I'm not going anywhere you stooge !!!
 

BlingBlingArsch

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who cares.


i was driving thru Dresden this weekend and i couldnt see any proof of delayed X2 production. No burning buildings, no frenzy screaming engis...everythin seemed alright with the Fabs. So i guess the X2 will come very soon.
 

Dothan

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Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
who cares.


i was driving thru Dresden this weekend and i couldnt see any proof of delayed X2 production. No burning buildings, no frenzy screaming engis...everythin seemed alright with the Fabs. So i guess the X2 will come very soon.

lol did you expect them to hang a big banner from the fab telling everyone they were having troubles ???

wake up !!!
 

clarkey01

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Originally posted by: Dothan
Originally posted by: BlingBlingArsch
who cares.


i was driving thru Dresden this weekend and i couldnt see any proof of delayed X2 production. No burning buildings, no frenzy screaming engis...everythin seemed alright with the Fabs. So i guess the X2 will come very soon.

lol did you expect them to hang a big banner from the fab telling everyone they were having troubles ???

wake up !!!


You have no proof of your claims. I dont mind ppl talking about it but when you go with your flame bait your going to get your ass handed to you.

Im sure even some of the die hard Intel fanboy's are sick of you causing trouble.

If you like, pretend its may 2003 and the 3.2C is up against the 3200 AXP if that makes you feel better.



 

The Pentium Guy

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Originally posted by: porkster
The AMD X2 is good for Dhrystone calcs which makes it good for string work, but yet again it's already been shown on THG that these chips are poor multitaskers, for say server work.
I gotta atmit though, this is probably the least biased post I've seen from porkster in a while.

 
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oh my god you are actualy funnier that te guy who explodedat this guy!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LEGAND HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA
 

Leper Messiah

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lol. fanboism. the only fanboism i subscribe to is the one that keeps the most money in my pockets. Gawd. What a bunch of n00bs (t3h intel ones, sentinial is the only one who seems to have an inkling of what reason and logic mean...)
 
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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: Dothan
Originally posted by: Noob
Not you again Dothan, go away you troll.

funny those calling me a "troll" are the very same who are "trolling" in numerous threads in this very forum !!! god damn AMD zealots !!!

No AMD zealots here, we're performance zealots. Get out.
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Originally posted by: SLIorCROSSFIRE
oh my god you are actualy funnier that te guy who explodedat this guy!!!! LOL LOL LOL LOL LEGAND HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

this was refering to this guy:

Originally posted by: Mik3y
Originally posted by: Dothan
Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Who gives a crap? Products take time to arrive. Be patient and wait a week or two for the X2s to arrive.

More like a month, or two ... or three? lol !!!

all these excuses from the AMD fanatic base here give me a real good laugh !!!

And whoever said Intel only ship 500,000 "D" chips by end of 2005 is mistaken. They're well on course to ship over 1,000,000 "D" series chips by the end of this year. At the rate AMD is going, they'll be lucky to ship 10,000 by year end !!!

whoever said that you have a weenie is also mistaken. cummon, you can tell us. you have a vagina. you love the cock. say it man, just say it. you're my boy, blue! cummon, we're all family here...unfortunately.

 

The Pentium Guy

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Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Originally posted by: porkster
The AMD X2 is good for Dhrystone calcs which makes it good for string work, but yet again it's already been shown on THG that these chips are poor multitaskers, for say server work.
I gotta atmit though, this is probably the least biased post I've seen from porkster in a while.

No one caught the sarcasm?

 
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Originally posted by: Dothan
Originally posted by: ProviaFan
Back to the ship date: if Monarch doesn't ship OEM processors on the 16th or before, then we can talk. For now, you're (Dothan et. al.) just engaging in baseless speculation, which may or (more likely) may not happen. The better chances are that you'll be proven wrong in a few days. :thumbsup:

Monarch won't be shipping X2 OEM on the 16th, and certainly not before. What are you smoking ???

AMD is unable to fulfill all these orders for X2 chips. Yields are extremely low and thus the insane pricing of the X2. AMD simply cannot expect anyone (of sound mind) to spend upwards of $1K on an AMD processor. Yields on the 4800+ are reportedly so low that AMD is notifying resellers to expect only 4200 and 4400 to be available sometime in July and don't even think about retail versions of ANY of these chips until Q4 at best.

So if you have an order for your beloved X2 in somewhere, prepare for a long wait !!!

how can you talk about insane prices you absolute fool!!!

No.1 -- cheapest X2: $537 -- outperforms No. 2 & 3 (as proven earlier in the forum)

No.2 -- cheapest PD: $241 (+mobo:$350) -- i personaly wouldnt put this in a calculator (cos it would melt through the desk!!)

No.3 -- expensive PD: $530 (+mobo:$630) -- out performed for $90 less than its cost (inc the mobo)

No.4 -- PEE:$999 (+mobo:$1100) -- its a lump of raccoon siht on an intel mobo (performance for cost wise)

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentiumd-820_7.html -- PD's being outperformed by athalon64's (3200 + 3500) in all but two tests

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentiumd-820_10.html -- gets ass handed to it in gaming!!!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentiumd-820_11.html -- worst in all tests

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentiumd-820_12.html -- beats AMD in 3 tests out of 5

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentiumd-820_13.html -- intel:3, amd:0 (now remember these are single core amd chips)

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentiumd-820_14.html -- destroyed by AMD

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentiumd-820_14.html -- AGAIN destroyed by AMD

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/pentiumd-820_15.html -- beats AMD in 3D tho (now remember these are single core amd chips)


...I think I'll stick with AMD
 
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Originally posted by: xylem
Dothan, after suffering the misfortune of reading a few of your posts in various threads, I must say that for you, "Troll" is too flattering a label. Please, withdraw your proboscis from the stinky pile which you are so pathetically trying to stir, and buzz off.

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Originally posted by: Rock Hydra
Man...I must be one of the only Intel freaks that at least has a hint of dignity. This shameless trolling and crapping about AMD. Can't even admit their own weakness. OP, go back to the THG community forums. :|

so what are intels weaknesses then, cant run in sli slabley (see Markfw900 above), too loud, to hot, to outperformed. im not saying that intel are crap...they are just second best.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: The Pentium Guy
Originally posted by: porkster
The AMD X2 is good for Dhrystone calcs which makes it good for string work, but yet again it's already been shown on THG that these chips are poor multitaskers, for say server work.
I gotta atmit though, this is probably the least biased post I've seen from porkster in a while.


Not good for servers?

Porkster never answered my original posts directed toward him in a non-inflammatory way. :(
 

Intelia

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Originally posted by: Whateva
Nothing beats Pentiums speed, Everything beats it's performance.....lol

Anyways You Intel guys can argue all day about speed and availability of chips and so forth but the bottom line is that the Prescott core is crap unless it's running at 4 ghz. plus.
The Pentium D is nothing but 2 Prescotts glued together running at a slower speed which = crap. Now to be fair The Dothan core Pentium M is an aweseome processor. In fact I would love to have one. Intel made a mistake with Prescott, and until they have a mainstream desktop processor thats not based on the Prescott core I'll stick with AMD.

Your close to being correct here ! But if intel wouldn't have had problems scaling thereP4 to 5GHz+ we would all be talking quit differantly. Is that not so? Would of Could of Should of. Win some lose some or is it a win win even if you lose.
Even though. Threw they eyes of AMD fan boys or girls P4 is a diaster I applied Intels efforts at High GHz and if you think that even though P4 seems to be died in the water that what intel learned with the P4 isn't going to benefit me in the next gen. of intels CPU'S your saidly mistaken.
If Intels next Gen . dominates AMD like I believe they will AMD is in serious trouble now .
1) Amd can't supply enough CPU in single core to the market How they going to do dual cores in quanity.
2) Amd is barely able to make profits now and they are considered to be the best Arch. and value for the $$$.
3)THE other thing that everyone always brings up is the ondie memory controller. My ? here is this the only reason that Amd outperform Intel in Apps. If so than in reality its not amd Cpu tech thats ahead of Intel but infact its where they put the memory controll.
On the Intel side of things all the evidance is pointing to these facts not wild speculations.
1) In dual cores Intel will be the value CPU undisputable and Intel will still maintain its profit margin. OH! OH!
2) Intel leaving the P4 Arch. behind them . They are going to a much simplier Cpu Arch. Which well best AMD Cooler, quiter, faster. and higher profit margins due to a simplier Arch.
3) Intels dothan has already Shown that Clock for Clock they can hang right with the top Amd CPU , AND thats with a really bad memory controller.

So in finializing to the poster I to am an Intel fangirl but fact is AMD right now is a better solution at the topend of the PC chain.
So Dothan here's what I want from you and all Intel fans. Shout up ! Wait for Q1 06
when Intel well reestablish beyond dought there superiorty!
Than come back to this forum and burn down the house that AMD flamers built.

On the video scene right now the rumers going around that ATI is having problems with R520. This is true they are having great difficulties in deciding how fast to bring this thing out at . Nice problem to have don't you think?
Cross Fire seems to be better than SLI right now. Well know soon enough. If it is infact as good as it appears it would appear again that Zinn2b made fools of the. The experts at this forum .
I will let you guys do your own search on this but at another forum Zinn2b has made it perfectly clear that if Intels spanks Amd in 06 that he is Going to sue the Anand tech Forums for an illeagal Ban . I personnly have read everthing he posted some of it is garbage at this forum but fact is it was an unlawful ban. and attorny's that made comments on his lawsuit post all agree Zinn2b will win cause he did nothing wrong at all.
As I understand it the attys read some of the post and have stated openly that in Zinn's post. If the other posters would have been banned also (the people who went to far) he wouldn't have a case but as it is he can show prejuidice .


 

ProviaFan

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Originally posted by: Intelia
I will let you guys do your own search on this but at another forum Zinn2b has made it perfectly clear that if Intels spanks Amd in 06 that he is Going to sue the Anand tech Forums for an illeagal Ban . I personnly have read everthing he posted some of it is garbage at this forum but fact is it was an unlawful ban. and attorny's that made comments on his lawsuit post all agree Zinn2b will win cause he did nothing wrong at all.
As I understand it the attys read some of the post and have stated openly that in Zinn's post. If the other posters would have been banned also (the people who went to far) he wouldn't have a case but as it is he can show prejuidice .
I'm tired of going over this stuff again and again, so I'll consentrate on the legal BS you're throwing about. When one joins the forums, one agrees to a policy that basically states that you can be banned for whatever reason. This isn't a public forum, so nobody's supressing "freedom of speech" when they ban someone. If this idiot thinks s/he can sue Anand and win, s/he'll be in for an (un)pleasant surprise. ;)

To clarify on "not a public forum," I mean that Anand has invited anyone and everyone here, but if someone causes problems, there is no legal issue whatsoever with Anand (actually, his moderators) telling someone to get the heck out and not come back.
 

Capt Caveman

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LMAO. Sue b/c I got banned from a forum! Yeah, that's believable and attorney's are really working on it. And now you're stating that AMD is better than Intel when you were trolling not to long ago just like Dothan and Porkster. You are probably all the same sad person. Pathetic. Sue AnandTech Forums? Too funny.
 

Intelia

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Actually your incorrect law presedence shows and has already been tested in the courts all flamers from those post had to be banned also . Zinn was talking about future development. I believe he stated by year 06. Thats all he is waiting for is for his statements come to pass in the time period he gave. I don't think he will win but its going to make for some really good reading. Its also going to make him quit famous . Its a win win for zinn even if he loses. And its a lose lose deal for Ananda even if they win . Confussed yet I am . As I understand it if all the flamers would have been banned from those threads . Prejudice could not be shown. as it is he was the only 1 banned and he's remarks are much less inflamitory than the other flamers who resorted to name calling .
Just go threw this thread and read the insults passed out by the Amd fans . Zinn has a good case . I dought that he can win but it is possiable .