Discussion AMD SoC Halo series GPU discussion

[Thunder 57]

This “company” will not have volume. That’s the problem here

I think you missed the joke.

 

[yottabit]

not to mention one that runs 2x to 3x longer on battery and is half the thickness in most cases.



again, your not lugging around the egpu around everywhere, unless its to a hotel room.

eGPU setups are not messy, unless you have absolute dog pile bedding mess of wire management, and don't use a proper SFF modular power supply.

No, they will not get eclipsed. A Ultra Portable, is typically HALF the thickness of a Laptop dGPU because it does not require the larger heat sink. The Battery is also smaller, yet they run longer, because again, there is no extra stuff to power.

My brothers LG Gram for example weights less then 1KG.
Is so thin that they couldn't make it thinner because of the USB ports.
It also runs almost forever on battery unless your doing heavy lifting, but most importantly, if you have a Power Delivery 3 USB Battery pack, you can carry that around and literally have it run all day.
Something you can never do to a Gaming Laptop.

Again.. gaming laptops are the biggest pieces of cow manure you can possibly buy.
They don't excel at anything, while trying to do everything.

At least these handhelds got that right, they don't do everything, they just play games, but from what im seeing its all mostly in medium settings, with only a few being high settings on the non UE5/Unity/Advance Gaming engine games.

Again i can steam roll though most games on ultra settings with my eGPU 3090 unless i plug myself into a external 4k monitor.

Dude, some people like laptops because they can carry them around and use them on the go. Crazy, I know. Some of the same people (like me, who already has a desktop with a 3090) occasionally require doing GPU heavy tasks on the go.

For us, we like a laptop with a dGPU (yes, one inside the laptop) or a powerful APU

 

[LightningZ71]

I've always been more partial to the "creator" type laptops. They've tended to not be as flashy as gaming laptops, and they typically don't push the power and thermals through the roof, but they can usually do almost anything reasonably well with plenty of ports to connect things. They certainly aren't thin and light though.

 

[DavidC1]

looks awesome. can't wait for medusa halo

I'm pretty sure they can come with a form factor that's a bit bigger to accommodate a slim dGPU and make it fully upgradable with 35W rated desktop chips. And add a latch on top to attach a small screen so @aigomorla can have his cake and eat it too. Bring back MXM? Also a DC output as well.

The biggest issue for gaming laptops for me is for all the cost, you throw it away in a few years because nothing important is upgradeable. Desktops allow you to upgrade only the things you want.

 

[igor_kavinski]

you throw it away in a few years

They just find a new home. No one throws away a really expensive laptop. I once almost bought a used expensive ASUS 4K laptop with dual Geforce 900 GPUs, 64GB RAM and Skylake CPU. Original price was $5000 but the seller was selling it for a little over $1000. Good thing that I didn't because few years later, someone was kind enough to sell me their HP Omen i7-10750H 1080p 300Hz display laptop with Geforce 3070 for ~$780.

 

[Paratus]

I've always been more partial to the "creator" type laptops. They've tended to not be as flashy as gaming laptops, and they typically don't push the power and thermals through the roof, but they can usually do almost anything reasonably well with plenty of ports to connect things. They certainly aren't thin and light though.

I was actually shocked at the ASUS Tuf 14 gaming laptop I bought at the beginning of the year. It was reasonably thin, light weight (3.2lbs) and really powerful (AMD AI9 HX370 & 32GB w 4060). With the appropriate power profile it’s cool and quiet or a good gaming machine and it doesn’t look like a blinged out gaming laptop.

Spoiler: Mini Review

Came with the Strix based AI9 HX370 CPU, 32GB of LPDDR5X 7500 and a 4060

The 370 12C/24T CPU out performs my old 16C/32T 2950x Threadripper quad channel DDR4 3200 desktop in single thread, multi thread, and bandwidth.

If I leave it in silent mode it’s stays quiet and pretty cool.

The 890m IGPU is powerful enough to run CAD, 3D modeling software and a lot of games without kicking in the 4060 which really helps battery life.

For gaming with the 4060 they allow the full 100w power profile if you select performance. Compared to my sons Dell XPS with 4060 mine is almost 50% faster maxed out.

The main issue now besides ASUS’s software/business practices is they aren’t selling this CPU with the new 50XX series anymore. The 2025 TUF 14 has the slower 350 CPU and the 16 goes for the intel 149XX.

They may have actually moved that CPU/GPU combo to their more expensive creator style laptops because it’s really good.

 

[randomhero]

I was actually shocked at the ASUS Tuf 14 gaming laptop I bought at the beginning of the year. It was reasonably thin, light weight (3.2lbs) and really powerful (AMD AI9 HX370 & 32GB w 4060). With the appropriate power profile it’s cool and quiet or a good gaming machine and it doesn’t look like a blinged out gaming laptop.
View attachment 128774

Spoiler: Mini Review

Came with the Strix based AI9 HX370 CPU, 32GB of LPDDR5X 7500 and a 4060

The 370 12C/24T CPU out performs my old 16C/32T 2950x Threadripper quad channel DDR4 3200 desktop in single thread, multi thread, and bandwidth.

If I leave it in silent mode it’s stays quiet and pretty cool.

The 890m IGPU is powerful enough to run CAD, 3D modeling software and a lot of games without kicking in the 4060 which really helps battery life.

For gaming with the 4060 they allow the full 100w power profile if you select performance. Compared to my sons Dell XPS with 4060 mine is almost 50% faster maxed out.

The main issue now besides ASUS’s software/business practices is they aren’t selling this CPU with the new 50XX series anymore. The 2025 TUF 14 has the slower 350 CPU and the 16 goes for the intel 149XX.

They may have actually moved that CPU/GPU combo to their more expensive creator style laptops because it’s really good.

I have 16" Asus Vivobook X with ryzen 5900hx, 32GB DDR4, and some 4GB nVidia 3050 or 3060 (I disabled it from day one, there was not option without dgpu) and is more than enough powerful for same purpose.
If I could buy 12 core medusa halo with 64GB RAM in similar package for $ 2k in 3 years time, I would be golden.

 

[marees]

1200p gaming around 30w approx 2 hrs on battery

 

[Paratus]

Anything shorter than a 6' bed in a pickup is a crime.

I've always been more partial to the "creator" type laptops. They've tended to not be as flashy as gaming laptops, and they typically don't push the power and thermals through the roof, but they can usually do almost anything reasonably well with plenty of ports to connect things. They certainly aren't thin and light though.

I was actually shocked at the ASUS Tuf 14 gaming laptop I bought at the beginning of the year. It was reasonably thin, light weight (3.2lbs) and really powerful (AMD AI9 HX370 & 32GB w 4060). With the appropriate power profile it’s cool and quiet or a good gaming machine and it doesn’t look like a blinged out gaming laptop.
View attachment 128774

Spoiler: Mini Review

Came with the Strix based AI9 HX370 CPU, 32GB of LPDDR5X 7500 and a 4060

The 370 12C/24T CPU out performs my old 16C/32T 2950x Threadripper quad channel DDR4 3200 desktop in single thread, multi thread, and bandwidth.

If I leave it in silent mode it’s stays quiet and pretty cool.

The 890m IGPU is powerful enough to run CAD, 3D modeling software and a lot of games without kicking in the 4060 which really helps battery life.

For gaming with the 4060 they allow the full 100w power profile if you select performance. Compared to my sons Dell XPS with 4060 mine is almost 50% faster maxed out.

The main issue now besides ASUS’s software/business practices is they aren’t selling this CPU with the new 50XX series anymore. The 2025 TUF 14 has the slower 350 CPU and the 16 goes for the intel 149XX.

They may have actually moved that CPU/GPU combo to their more expensive creator style laptops because it’s really good.

I have 16" Asus Vivobook X with ryzen 5900hx, 32GB DDR4, and some 4GB nVidia 3050 or 3060 (I disabled it from day one, there was not option without dgpu) and is more than enough powerful for same purpose.
If I could buy 12 core medusa halo with 64GB RAM in similar package for $ 2k in 3 years time, I would be golden.

I'm not kidding when I tell you the Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 is the only gaming laptop I'd buy – Nvidia's RTX 5070 Ti laptop GPU is a monster

Reasonable price tag too...

www.techradar.com

Looks like they put it in the Asus Zephyrus G14.

AI 9 HX370 & 5070ti in 14in thin and light chassis w OLED. Of course it’s $2500 against the $1450 I paid.

$1000 is a pretty big delta for OLED and a the difference between a 4060 and 5070ti.

 

[Chaotic42]

I'm not kidding when I tell you the Asus ROG Zephyrus G14 is the only gaming laptop I'd buy – Nvidia's RTX 5070 Ti laptop GPU is a monster

Reasonable price tag too...

www.techradar.com

Looks like they put it in the Asus Zephyrus G14.

AI 9 HX370 & 5070ti in 14in thin and light chassis w OLED. Of course it’s $2400 against the $1450 I paid.

Might fit in a 5' truck bed, idk.

 

[DavidC1]

They just find a new home. No one throws away a really expensive laptop.

I'm not arguing about the e-waste part(even though it is better in that regard too). Recycling is mostly a scam, actually most of the "green" initiatives are, where the "first" world dumps it on third world countries to feel good about themselves.

I'm talking about the price to the user. I don't need to spend $2000 on a laptop and do it again in 4 years. And value dropping by 1/4 in 4 years is quite a waste. In a desktop I could precision spend. My desktop is a Pentium Gold G6400. I upgraded the RX 470 to GTX 1080. Which wouldn't be possible.