Discussion AMD SoC Halo series GPU discussion

[adroc_thurston]

So will we see more products than 1 tablet, 1 laptop and 2 miniPCs announced so far?

Yea.
New swimlanes take time to manifest designs into existence.

I hope so. They need like an Asus Proart P14 type laptop. Like a professional G14.

Zbook is very much that.

 

[misuspita]

It's literally designed for laptops.
It doesn't need more cooling or more power.

Well, yeah, but a 16x16x6cm miniPC with a good beefy Cu cooler and a 12cm thikk fan could cool relatively quietly a 120W, maybe a slight OC to 150W Halo. I wish....

 

[techjunkie123]

Zbook is very much that.

Yes but HP prices are wack for Zbooks.

 

[branch_suggestion]

I hope so. They need like an Asus Proart P14 type laptop. Like a professional G14.

What it really needs is a portable gaming laptop win, like a modded Zeph.

 

[techjunkie123]

What it really needs is a portable gaming laptop win, like a modded Zeph.

Yeah that too.

Do we know when the embargo lifts for halo? I couldn't find any information on that online.

 

[Abwx]

That s the only known timeline, expect some reviews in march/april, eventualy Q1 as consumers dedicated KRK is scheduled for this quarter.

AMD Strix Halo: Ryzen AI Max mit bis zu 16 Kernen, 40 CUs und 256 GB/s

AMDs „Monster-APU“ Strix Halo ist offiziell: Vier verschiedene Varianten gehen als Ryzen AI Max(+) 300 an den Start.

www.computerbase.de

AMD Krackan (Point): Günstigere Langläufer-APUs mit Zen 5(c), RDNA 3.5 & 50 TOPS

Unter der Strix-Point/Halo-Familie ist noch Platz: AMD Ryzen AI 7 350 und Ryzen AI 5 340 debütieren hier, Codename Krackan (Point).

www.computerbase.de

 

[Heartbreaker]

I hope so. They need like an Asus Proart P14 type laptop. Like a professional G14.

And if an RTX 5060 equals or exceeds it, then what?

 

[techjunkie123]

And if an RTX 5060 equals or exceeds it, then what?

Well the AMD one better be cheaper then.

5060M and 5070M will perform ~4070M based on the specs and the fact that Blackwell doesn't gain much performance relative to ada.

 

[MS_AT]

And if an RTX 5060 equals or exceeds it, then what?

It won't, it won't have up 96GB memory available for the gpu alone Oh, unless you mean gaming performance, then hmm, I don't expect Halo to sell well in the gaming crowd regardless of performance, it seems to be an M4 Max/Pro competitor and not nVidia dGPU competitor. It will be able to game sure, but I guess it will cost less to go with nVidia dGPU or Strix Point depending on your gaming needs.

 

[Heartbreaker]

It won't, it won't have up 96GB memory available for the gpu alone Oh, unless you mean gaming performance, then hmm, I don't expect Halo to sell well in the gaming crowd regardless of performance, it seems to be an M4 Max/Pro competitor and not nVidia dGPU competitor. It will be able to game sure, but I guess it will cost less to go with nVidia dGPU or Strix Point depending on your gaming needs.

M4 works great for Apple because they control everything in their ecosystem.

In the PC space, I expect this would be ignored for NVidia dGPU parts by gamers.

That leaves what? Non gamers that need big VRAM, so essentially AI again, which is what AMD was pushing at the CES reveal.

 

[adroc_thurston]

And if an RTX 5060 equals or exceeds it, then what?

It won't. Next.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Well, yeah, but a 16x16x6cm miniPC with a good beefy Cu cooler and a 12cm thikk fan could cool relatively quietly a 120W, maybe a slight OC to 150W Halo. I wish....

https://twitter.com/x/status/1884151582536917417

You're in luck.

 

[MS_AT]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1884151582536917417

You're in luck.

Now, that sounds interesting. Wonder if it will be available by the end of the year...

 

[adroc_thurston]

Now, that sounds interesting. Wonder if it will be available by the end of the year...

a) yeah
b) more designs coming ca Computex

 

[techjunkie123]

STX Halo benchmarks on the HP ZBook have started popping up on Geekbench with comparable scores to the ASUS tablet (at least for CPU).

HP HP ZBook Ultra G1a 14 inch Mobile Workstation PC - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a HP HP ZBook Ultra G1a 14 inch Mobile Workstation PC with an AMD RYZEN AI MAX+ PRO 395 w/ Radeon 8060S processor.

browser.geekbench.com

HP HP ZBook Ultra G1a 14 inch Mobile Workstation PC - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a HP HP ZBook Ultra G1a 14 inch Mobile Workstation PC with an AMD RYZEN AI MAX+ PRO 395 w/ Radeon 8060S processor.

browser.geekbench.com

 

[MS_AT]

STX Halo benchmarks on the HP ZBook have started popping up on Geekbench with comparable scores to the ASUS tablet (at least for CPU).

HP HP ZBook Ultra G1a 14 inch Mobile Workstation PC - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a HP HP ZBook Ultra G1a 14 inch Mobile Workstation PC with an AMD RYZEN AI MAX+ PRO 395 w/ Radeon 8060S processor.

browser.geekbench.com

HP HP ZBook Ultra G1a 14 inch Mobile Workstation PC - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a HP HP ZBook Ultra G1a 14 inch Mobile Workstation PC with an AMD RYZEN AI MAX+ PRO 395 w/ Radeon 8060S processor.

browser.geekbench.com

Problems with sensor readout as it shows max cpu freq at 4380MHz? (scores would indicate around 5GHz)

 

[techjunkie123]

Problems with sensor readout as it shows max cpu freq at 4380MHz? (scores would indicate around 5GHz)

Yeah just like the first Zen 5 samples probably. The ASUS benches show 5.1 GHz max as expected, with the same scores.

 

[scineram]

So now that clearly Zen 6 and RDNA 5 IP will not happen before end of 2026, what is AMD doing in the APU space for yearly next year? They must have something cooking for the next CES. I believe it will be the time for a Strix Point, and hopefully Strix Halo refresh with Zen 5 + RDNA 4. But I don't know anything about their mobile roadmaps, so what are some credible leaks or rumours on this topic?

 

[fastandfurious6]

No, refresh rarely makes sense other than marketing

The next APU is Medusa zen 6 + rd4

 

[Joe NYC]

So now that clearly Zen 6 and RDNA 5 IP will not happen before end of 2026, what is AMD doing in the APU space for yearly next year? They must have something cooking for the next CES. I believe it will be the time for a Strix Point, and hopefully Strix Halo refresh with Zen 5 + RDNA 4. But I don't know anything about their mobile roadmaps, so what are some credible leaks or rumours on this topic?

Is there anything new suggesting end of 2026, rather than mid 2026?

If it is N2, N2 should be ready by mid 2026.

 

[adroc_thurston]

The next APU is Medusa zen 6 + rd4

RDNA4 is skippo on APUs, since the OG KRK lineup is le dead.

If it is N2, N2 should be ready by mid 2026.

Can be N2p for all you care.

 

[fastandfurious6]

then RDNA4.5 or 5? would be very strange they still slap 3.5 in late 2026

 

[adroc_thurston]

RDNA4.5

Dead.

5

Yeah.

would be very strange they still slap 3.5 in late 2026

They will, on parts where GFX matters very little.

 

[fastandfurious6]

Medusa Halo zen 6 + rdna5 + N2* ? Ok gonna be the superchip of the decade

 

[ToTTenTranz]

Medusa Halo zen 6 + rdna5 + N2* ? Ok gonna be the superchip of the decade

If it's only coming in a year and a half, its relative performance compared to other chips may not be all that great.

It doesn't look like Intel will be sleeping all that time. They're becoming quite aggressive with their APUs' release schedule, with Arrow Lake H coming to handhelds and Panther Lake coming this year still.

Medusa will be facing Nova Lake which sounds like an absolute beast.