AMD Ryzen SKU and Price Information/Speculation.

[Crumpet]

I think it's a combination of clueless broadcasters, paid off broadcasters and toxic fanboys who spout catchy slogans like "AMD spaceheaters" and "AMD's drivers are bad" which haven't been true in quite some time, but the average consumer listens to them..

Admittedly as it stands right now, Intel IS better, but when Ryzen releases at certain price points you can bet that AMD will have the best price to performance, and it will be up to us to make as much noise about it as we can, suggest builds for people, bring it up in casual conversation etc.

It might sound daft but AMD needs people behind them, they have the technology and they have some amazing products, but they need average joe.. And I can only see that happening if we, everyone, stops letting the fanboys have the last say.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

When Ryzen launches, I cannot really fathom someone recommending intel, unless they're a paid shill or hardcore fanboy.

The i3 and i5 are completely outclassed by ryzen. You can kind of make an argument for the i7, but not really. Who is seriously recommending a 6900k over a ~5960x that is 1/3 the price?!

That said, AMD having the better product isn't a guarantee that it will do anywhere as well as it should.

 

[swilli89]

I think it's a combination of clueless broadcasters, paid off broadcasters and toxic fanboys who spout catchy slogans like "AMD spaceheaters" and "AMD's drivers are bad" which haven't been true in quite some time, but the average consumer listens to them..

Admittedly as it stands right now, Intel IS better, but when Ryzen releases at certain price points you can bet that AMD will have the best price to performance, and it will be up to us to make as much noise about it as we can, suggest builds for people, bring it up in casual conversation etc.

It might sound daft but AMD needs people behind them, they have the technology and they have some amazing products, but they need average joe.. And I can only see that happening if we, everyone, stops letting the fanboys have the last say.

Very true. The way I see it there are two types of people. People that bandwagon the incumbant (something like new New England Patriots fans). These people pull for the overwhelming top dog because they may be afraid of risk, or they just want to make sure they are on the winning side. The other type of people are the ones who like to pull for underdogs, can stomach a little risk, and who don't like to see the same thing (team, company, person etc) winning over and over. I think people that are pulling for AMD are in this second category if nothing else but for renewed competition that we all so desperately need. I think its extra sad that Intel has been proven to do some very, very dirty anti-consumer practices yet people just claim that its in the past. Intel freaking paid major companies to not use AMD's products!

Now that AMD may be putting a leash on Intel I really, really hope they can do the same to nVidia. Just like the above categorization, there actually seems to be people who defend nVidia for charging $1200 for a 470mm die product... 6 months after release. People become so embattled and entrenched in personal arguments about which company they are "for" they forget about the most important person.. themselves! Shouldn't ALL consumers be beating down companies for lower prices ESPECIALLY when said companies are hitting record revenue AND profit margins? When is enough, enough?

 

[CentroX]

Ryzen releases 4PM CET March 2nd according to sweclockers.

 

[DeeJayBump]

@swilli89

There is a sub-segment within the AMD camp who will not purchase any Intel product precisely because of those contra-revenue/bribes/monopolistic & criminal tactics Intel has perpetrated on the CPU side. Same goes for nVidia on the GPU side, with respect to only purchasing AMD products because of the business tactics nVidia employs.

For these folks (myself included) purchasing any Intel or nVidia product (or products/services from any entity/corp/etc who operate in similar fashion) is akin to willful acceptance/participation of/in those very tactics and their existence in this world.

 

[Magic Hate Ball]

Ryzen releases 4PM CET March 2nd according to sweclockers.

So 10am EST if accurate.

 

[Crumpet]

@swilli89

There is a sub-segment within the AMD camp who will not purchase any Intel product precisely because of those contra-revenue/bribes/monopolistic & criminal tactics Intel has perpetrated on the CPU side. Same goes for nVidia on the GPU side, with respect to only purchasing AMD products because of the business tactics nVidia employs.

For these folks (myself included) purchasing any Intel or nVidia product (or products/services from any entity/corp/etc who operate in similar fashion) is akin to willful acceptance/participation of/in those very tactics and their existence in this world.

Yeah I have to admit that factors highly into why i'm switching back.

I tried out team blue/green after reading literal thousands of threads on forums such as this, and all the recommendation of friends and family. And whodathunkit, my i5 is barely an improvement over my old overclocked fx8350 and nVidia's drivers can suck a fat one. So I can at least say I tried out the other side, the grass was not greener. So i'm happy to go back to Team Red, I like how AMD do things and i'm not fussed if I lose out by 5-10% performance in certain scenarios.

 

[formulav8]

Not sure if this has been posted or it being a reputable site. http://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-architecture-detailed/

 

[RichUK]

I wonder how XFR will respond to sub zero Temps - auto overclock to 10ghz

 

[Conroe]

XFR will keep the warranty so I doubt it will out do a manual overclock. I can't wait to see some overclocked benchmarks.

 

[Tuna-Fish]

Total OT and I noticed it too late, but I just have to comment:

I plan to cool mine with a block made of evaporative metallic hydrogen

... Metallic hydrogen *releases* energy when it evaporates, the opposite of almost all other materials. The reason is that binding energy of the metal state is lower than the binding energy of the H2 bond. Attempting to use a block of metallic hydrogen as an evaporative cooling system would end explosively.

 

[swilli89]

... Metallic hydrogen *releases* energy when it evaporates, the opposite of almost all other materials. The reason is that binding energy of the metal state is lower than the binding energy of the H2 bond. Attempting to use a block of metallic hydrogen as an evaporative cooling system would end explosively.

Finally we get to the real conversation

 

[richierich1212]

Look at what I just found now from sblt...

 

[moonbogg]

If those prices are true, then everyone and their brother will have a Ryzen rig.

 

[tential]

I truly believe Ryzen will sell well. I still can't bring myself to buy AMD stock....

If the prices are real and the TDP is real, it will do wonders to bring AMDs image back, which is fully necessary for the company to actually blossom into the mainstream effectively.

 

[richierich1212]

I truly believe Ryzen will sell well. I still can't bring myself to buy AMD stock....

We all should have gotten in at the lows....

 

[tential]

We all should have gotten in at the lows....

Still think it has a LOT of room to grow. I just don't like AMD as a company enough to buy their stock without a proven track record of executing which is something AMD doesn't have.
When you could take Nvidia for a similar ride, I'm more unhappy I didn't pick up Nvidia stock.

It's more of the now that I think AMD will most certainly outperform expectations, but I still don't want to buy it, especially when it's still a very liquid easy stock to trade for anyone.

 

[Arachnotronic]

If those prices are true, then everyone and their brother will have a Ryzen rig.

This is what comes to mind when I see comments like this...

 

[DrMrLordX]

Hmm, you can't buy Ryzen yet, but you can sure order a lot of swag from Redbubble:

https://www.google.com/search?outpu.....0...1.1.64.products-cc..0.5.290.a-R2Ehsf1UU

Or a quartz heater.

 

[swilli89]

We all should have gotten in at the lows....

I was telling everyone this a year ago! https://forums.anandtech.com/thread...-day-in-40-years.2470972/page-4#post-38186973

I was running with an average cost basis of about $5 by November of last year. I heavily doubled-down in December when it touched $6.90. Only by this time I had discovered something called "call options". AMD options from that price in December to the day it hit $14 (sold off most of my position), in that timeframe I my options hit over 1200%. Totally unreal.

Moving forward? Still a great bet. Just wait until they have their Q1 earnings call in April with a full month of Ryzen sales... Sorry I digress...

 

[MrTeal]

Total OT and I noticed it too late, but I just have to comment:



... Metallic hydrogen *releases* energy when it evaporates, the opposite of almost all other materials. The reason is that binding energy of the metal state is lower than the binding energy of the H2 bond. Attempting to use a block of metallic hydrogen as an evaporative cooling system would end explosively.

Learn something new every day, thanks. On the plus side, I can put development of my artificial gravity generator on hold until I'm done renoing my house now that I don't need to produce commercial quantities of an exotic substance. On the downside, I'm kind of disappointed since testing an explosive cooling system (with proper PPE, of course) sounds even more fun than overclocking using it.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Wow and people thought the exploding Duron was fun to watch!

Ryzen: Explosive performance!

 

[jihe]

When Ryzen launches, I cannot really fathom someone recommending intel, unless they're a paid shill or hardcore fanboy.

The i3 and i5 are completely outclassed by ryzen. You can kind of make an argument for the i7, but not really. Who is seriously recommending a 6900k over a ~5960x that is 1/3 the price?!

That said, AMD having the better product isn't a guarantee that it will do anywhere as well as it should.

Funny enough Intel will then become the budget king with the G4560.

 

[twelfth]

Wow and people thought the exploding Duron was fun to watch!
Ryzen: Explosive performance!

Cool trolly fake video, bro.

 

[Doom2pro]

If I'm not mistaken that video was done by x86 Secret AKA Cannard PC...

Too Ex-trem. Too Ex-trem.