AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[B-Riz]

I suspect the ryzen master temperature reading is a bit off. Mine always reads 56-65C idle. While full load, only pushes it up to 69-70C.

Does ANYONE see a reading close to ambient while idle with ryzen master?

Am running the 1700 @ 3.5, stock volts, Wraith cooler, AS5, on a Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 and it idles at ambient.

The OC is just a max multiplier setting, all the power saving stuff is turned on.

 

[krumme]

I'm having issues with my Asus Prime B350 board going over 2133 RAM speed.

The only way to get to 2666 is to enable DCOP but that messes up with the CPU voltage and temperature.

BIOS reports 1.51 VCore with my temps going from 40C to 65C (!)

Avoid the ASUS Prime B350M-A for now.

Uninstall the asus oc stuff from windows.
Make sure you only oc from bios. Read the manual 😉

 

[Magic Hate Ball]

I've broken down and decided to order a NZXT x62 Kraken for my 1800x.

The Noctua D15S just can't keep up with temperatures for as far as I can push the CPU.

Currently, I am able to run 4.1ghz OC w/o SMT and keep temps reasonable while gaming, but it's really pushing it. A little more voltage and/or lower temps will probably let me turn SMT back on.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

I've broken down and decided to order a NZXT x62 Kraken for my 1800x.

The Noctua D15S just can't keep up with temperatures for as far as I can push the CPU.

Currently, I am able to run 4.1ghz OC w/o SMT and keep temps reasonable while gaming, but it's really pushing it. A little more voltage and/or lower temps will probably let me turn SMT back on.

What voltage?

 

[Malogeek]

Uninstall the asus oc stuff from windows.
Make sure you only oc from bios. Read the manual

You can't set DOCP or any memory settings in windows. Also there doesn't seem to be any multiplier setting available in the BIOS. At least on my Prime X370-Pro.

 

[MaxDepth]

So now that the first Ryzens are out in the wild, are you happy with y'alls builds?

Are they an improvement to whatever you have replaced?

 

[IEC]

Just for reference, depending on your sample it should be possible to OC to 4GHz on air. My order for a Noctua D15 still hasn't shipped so I cancelled it and am considering different options.

Main reason? I achieved the following OC using an old Cooler Master Hyper 212+:

19.48 pts Cinebench R11.5

Ryzen 1800X @ 4.0 using gravity-mounted Cooler Master Hyper 212+ (for the lulz)
DDR4-3400 @ 2666 14-14-14-14-35-2T (until BIOS fix...)
BLCK 100, multi 40, LLC 3, offset +0.05V
Stock speeds included in ranking for comparison.

Posted here as well:
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/new-updated-2-post-your-cinebench-r11-5-score.2443441/page-12

 

[IEC]

Also temperature readings on this ASUS Crosshair VI Hero motherboard are seriously borked. If I overclock and change voltages the idle temp drops like 20C for no apparent reason... which doesn't make sense.

 

[Magic Hate Ball]

What voltage?

Fully stable at 4.0ghz SMT off seems to require 1.36825 or some odd fractional number like that.

Going to 4.1ghz seems to up to ~1.39ish with SMT off to be fully stable.

 

[dacostafilipe]

Uninstall the asus oc stuff from windows.
Make sure you only oc from bios. Read the manual 😉

I don't want to OC this build (yet), I just want my RAM to run at their "default" speed (2666) according to Asus ... :/

 

[Despoiler]

Heads up for Asrock owners. Their full mobo range got a new beta BIOS dropped today. Varying versions depending on the chipset. Now if that darn cargo ship would arrive so the rest of us could buy one.

X370
1.Add DRAM Timing in OC Tweaker.

B350
1.Add DRAM timing item in OC Tweaker.
2.Add CPU Voltage item in OC Tweaker.

 

[Malogeek]

I don't want to OC this build (yet), I just want my RAM to run at their "default" speed (2666) according to Asus ... :/

ASUS users are basically shafted for memory compatibility until they release a new BIOS.

 

[Mockingbird]

I just talked to AsRock about the X370 Taichi.

AsRock America has only sent one shipment of the X370 Taichi consisting of 50 units so far.

I had him clarify that 1 unit = 1 motherboard.

The second shipment consisting of 150 units will arrive tomorrow and will be distributed throughout the country in the following 2-3 days.

The third shipment consists of 150 units and will be arriving at the end of the week.

The fourth shipment consists of 150 units and will be arriving next week.

All of these units are being flown in.

Wide availability of the X370 Taichi is not expected until 2 months from now.

EDIT: I wanted to post this to let you guys/girls know, but now I regret it because some lame users are going to post this on Reddit and then the AMD's Reddit army is going to buy up everything.

So if you even think of posting this on Reddit, just smack yourself in the face.

 

[IEC]

I've broken down and decided to order a NZXT x62 Kraken for my 1800x.

The Noctua D15S just can't keep up with temperatures for as far as I can push the CPU.

Currently, I am able to run 4.1ghz OC w/o SMT and keep temps reasonable while gaming, but it's really pushing it. A little more voltage and/or lower temps will probably let me turn SMT back on.

That's unfortunate. If the king of air cooling can't keep up then my dream of 4.1 on air may just not be attainable (that last 100MHz seems to require more voltage, as you say). Sigh, time to consider more permanent mounting options for my custom loop...

 

[Magic Hate Ball]

I just talked to AsRock about the X370 Taichi.

AsRock America has only sent one shipment of the X370 Taichi consisting of 50 units so far.

I had him clarify that 1 unit = 1 motherboard.

The second shipment consisting of 150 units will arrive tomorrow and will be distributed throughout the country in the following 2-3 days.

The third shipment consists of 150 units and will be arriving at the end of the week.

The fourth shipment consists of 150 units and will be arriving next week.

All of these units are being flown in.

Wide availability of the X370 Taichi is not expected until 2 months from now.

Wait, am I only one of 50 people in the USA that have this motherboard right now or something?

 

[Mockingbird]

Wait, am I only one of 50 people in the USA that have this motherboard right now or something?

Yes, you are.

 

[plopke]

I don't think it's been mentioned anywhere.

Every X370 motherboard (except Biostar's) uses Intel l211-AT for LAN Chipset and every B350 motherboard uses Realtek 8111H/8111GR.

Motherboard makers probably called each other and asked what they are doing.

yeah I agree,
https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/5vx5o3/am4_motherboard_links/

I miss a bit the Intel variation where you could not always but many times find the board with the permutation to fit personal needs the best 😛. One good network , good audio , one pcie 16 slot , 6-8usb , one M.2 , don't care about CF/SLI, no crazy overclocking , have not found the perfect fit yet. Closest so far for me was the gigabyte B350 gaming 3

UPDATE : off course very understandable given how much time they had to get motherboards "ready"

 

[krumme]

I don't want to OC this build (yet), I just want my RAM to run at their "default" speed (2666) according to Asus ... :/

Yeaa. The bios is buggy in many ways. As i can tell it doesnt load XMP profiles the right way on my asus b350m.
Add its so difficult for UX and UI. It wasnt until your post, i discover i was setting ram voltage wrong. You cant just write it (because then it misses a lot of 0 at the end lol), but you have to use +-
Crazy stuff.
Whatever i have my corsair 3000c15 up to 2933 at c16, 17, 17,35 by setting voltage to 1.37V. (edit that is 1.37000000V in asus language )
So thanx. lets hope it will last 🙂

 

[Mockingbird]

@Magic Hate Ball
@DrMrLordX

Okay, so which one of you are Jay B., Daniel B., and Justin S.? (looking at the reviews on Newegg for the AsRock X370 Taichi)

 

[Magic Hate Ball]

Yes, you are.

Honestly, it looks like they were flying by the seats of their pants on this release.

They're patching in basic functionality over the last week or so I've had it, SMT disable was added late last week, the new beta patch today adds manual timings on RAM.

All this points to them just barely having it ready to even be shipped, let alone final polish to anything. It does take an inordinate amount of time to post.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

I just talked to AsRock about the X370 Taichi.

AsRock America has only sent one shipment of the X370 Taichi consisting of 50 units so far.

I had him clarify that 1 unit = 1 motherboard.

The second shipment consisting of 150 units will arrive tomorrow and will be distributed throughout the country in the following 2-3 days.

The third shipment consists of 150 units and will be arriving at the end of the week.

The fourth shipment consists of 150 units and will be arriving next week.

All of these units are being flown in.

Wide availability of the X370 Taichi is not expected until 2 months from now.

Nice info, ty.

Honestly, it looks like they were flying by the seats of their pants on this release.

They're patching in basic functionality over the last week or so I've had it, SMT disable was added late last week, the new beta patch today adds manual timings on RAM.

All this points to them just barely having it ready to even be shipped, let alone final polish to anything. It does take an inordinate amount of time to post.

A lot of people with various brands are complaining about the post time. People were also complaining about a lack of options with the dram timings or sub timings too. From what I hear, I would say their pants are at about the same level as the others.

 

[Magic Hate Ball]

@Magic Hate Ball
@DrMrLordX

Okay, so which one of you are Jay B., Daniel B., and Justin S.? (looking at the reviews on Newegg for the AsRock X370 Taichi)

I haven't reviewed it yet 🙂

 

[DisEnchantment]

What tool do you use to read the microcode patch level?

@Chiropteran
I go to the BIOS, then Change to Advanced Mode then go for Advanced Tab then CPU configuration there it mentions the Microcode patch level. This is for B350, I have no idea how it is for others.

 

[Valantar]

I never understand why the heatsink don't attach directly to the case behind the motherboard so as to take the stress away from the motherboard.

Because that would require fixed CPU socket positioning on the motherboard, which would seriously complicate motherboard design. The socket placement is decided by a combination of physical interference requirements, ease/practicality of trace routing, and practicality. Forcing manufacturers to have the socket in one place (or a small selection of fixed positions) would make motherboards noticeably more expensive. Need to shift the socket 1mm sideways to make for perfectly routed RAM traces? Sorry, the next position is 9mm further. Back to the drawing board. Want high-end PWM, shifting the socket a few mm downwards? Uh-oh, now you'll have to move another X millimeters to hit the next position. And so on. Not to mention that it would break any mounting mechanism that screws in from the back, as well as make rear-mounted m.2 impossible. Even with motherboard trays perforated with hundreds of holes (which would seriously confuse novice PC builders), you'd still place serious restrictions on both motherboard design and build practicality.

 

[krumme]

You can't set DOCP or any memory settings in windows. Also there doesn't seem to be any multiplier setting available in the BIOS. At least on my Prime X370-Pro.

Man that sounds weird but with asus bios in this stage you never know. Are you sure there is not a field that says "auto" and you can just write manually eg "38"?. Took me hours to discover how it was done on my asus b350m and it was something like that.