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AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

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plopke said:
off course very understandable given how much time they had to get motherboards "ready"
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A big part of that was their own doing. They put all in for the X2xx chipset boards but did very little for the Ryzen boards. Gigabyte looks to be the best boards right now and Asus the worst.
 
formulav8 said:
A big part of that was their own doing. They put all in for the X2xx chipset boards but did very little for the Ryzen boards. Gigabyte looks to be the best boards right now and Asus the worst.
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They all screwed up, but relatively speaking Gigabyte may have screwed up the least. From looking at the reviews it seems quite a few people are getting DOA boards from Gigabyte also.
 
SketchMaster said:
They all screwed up, but relatively speaking Gigabyte may have screwed up the least. From looking at the reviews it seems quite a few people are getting DOA boards from Gigabyte also.
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I've ran my Ryzen build for 3 days now. No issues, other than my RAM not being able to run at its full speed. Still thought the performance has been great. Aorus gaming 5 is a nice board, but the BIOS is very spartan currently. Like I can't even modify RAM voltage manually.

I do hope they fix the RAM compatibility issues and add all the BIOS options in, because as of right now it's very barebones.
 
DisEnchantment said:
My ASUS B350 Prime Plus has the Micro Code Patch Level 8001105.
All boards from different vendors should have the same micro code patch right?
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Hmm. Mine shows as 800F11/800110E Close to yours, but E instead of 5. Not sure what it means.

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krumme said:
Man that sounds weird but with asus bios in this stage you never know. Are you sure there is not a field that says "auto" and you can just write manually eg "38"?. Took me hours to discover how it was done on my asus b350m and it was something like that.
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Lol dumbass, completely missed that field. I was setting an option for frequency to manual which gives you new FID/DID fields but the field below that allows the multiplier.

Thanks 🙂
 
Remember to alter cpu voltage ofset and ram voltage using the -+ and not writing it. Lol
That is if its same methology as b350m.
 
I am eagerly waiting for the updates, BIOS/Applications/Windows etc. Lots of things buggy as hell.
Windows cannot even tell the clock speed correctly, temperature readings, fans going all haywire 😡😡😡
 
When Ryzen motherboards and Geforce 1080 Tis ever show up in stock again... this is what I will build:
  • Ryzen 1800x
  • Noctua 15 Cooler
  • Some X370 Mobo. Probably Asus or ASRock.
  • 32GB RAM two DIMMS
    (G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series - it's on the Asus QVL list @ 2666 - fastest 32GB kit on the list)
  • Geforce 1080 Ti. Don't care which.
  • Samsung Evo 960 1TB boot drive
  • 2x 3TB Seagate Barracuda data drives
  • Corsair 570x tempered glass case
  • Some f*cking power supply, 850+ watts
That ought to be fast enough to last me for a while. I don't care about the sound setup, since I'll be using all my Native Instruments sh*t for that anyway. Komplete Audio & Traktor S4. I need to get accurate measurements for the case and cooler setup, though. May have to choose the Noctua 12S cooler instead, if I can't find 'em. F*cking Noctua 15 is fatter than Rosie O'Donuts' rear end after a binge at the Golden Corral buffet.
 
DisEnchantment said:
I am eagerly waiting for the updates, BIOS/Applications/Windows etc. Lots of things buggy as hell.
Windows cannot even tell the clock speed correctly, temperature readings, fans going all haywire 😡😡😡
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That and Windows 10 is only running 1/3 to 2/3 of the cores and threads at any given time including under full load.Plus I am not even sure they are running correctly when they are activated.
 
Phaetos said:
Just had a thought, will Win 8.1 work on the new Ryzen cpu's? Didn't I read something that only Win 10 was supported?
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windows 8.1 works just fine. Still use it as my preferred OS. I think I've read it has the same issues currently as win10 with thread handling though. Hopefully it will get a patch along with 10.
 
Temp readings are wrong on 1700X and 1800X. Correct on 1700 however.

The primary temperature reporting sensor of the AMD Ryzen™ processor is a sensor called “T Control,” or tCTL for short. The tCTL sensor is derived from the junction (Tj) temperature—the interface point between the die and heatspreader—but it may be offset on certain CPU models so that all models on the AM4 Platform have the same maximum tCTL value. This approach ensures that all AMD Ryzen™ processors have a consistent fan policy.

Specifically, the AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700X and 1800X carry a +20°C offset between the tCTL° (reported) temperature and the actual Tj° temperature. In the short term, users of the AMD Ryzen™ 1700X and 1800X can simply subtract 20°C to determine the true junction temperature of their processor. No arithmetic is required for the Ryzen 7 1700. Long term, we expect temperature monitoring software to better understand our tCTL offsets to report the junction temperature automatically.
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Source: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/13/amd-ryzen-community-update?sf62107357=1

tl;dr
Weird temperature arithmetic, 1700X and 1800X don't actually run hotter than 1700 at same clocks, they just report hotter. Also explains why under certain BIOS settings my reported temps dropped exactly 20C...
 
IEC said:
Temp readings are wrong on 1700X and 1800X. Correct on 1700 however.


Source: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/13/amd-ryzen-community-update?sf62107357=1

tl;dr
Weird temperature arithmetic, 1700X and 1800X don't actually run hotter than 1700 at same clocks, they just report hotter. Also explains why under certain BIOS settings my reported temps dropped exactly 20C...
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I wonder how many have ripped out and re-seated their heatsinks a dozen times due to this "undocumented feature"...
I was close to doing it, but I'm glad I kept my cool (...) and waited for more information. This means my 1800X is running at 55C rather than 75C during Prime95.
 
Someone should message this scalper and demand photos of the actual item.

I can guarantee that he'll deny because he doesn't have it yet.
 
Zoffster1 said:
Right...




Can't get my memory above 2666MHz for now and a bit disappointed with the temps I'm getting (55 degrees C in BIOS) considering it on custom water with a 6cm deep 480mm radiator. Not too sure that reading is correct.
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I love your case, its super wide and looks nice and heavy.I bet it could fit 2 motherboards in there.
Ain't no body walking off with that sucker any time soon 🙂 What cpu are you using and why such a low end GPU?
 
Magic Hate Ball said:
I've broken down and decided to order a NZXT x62 Kraken for my 1800x.

The Noctua D15S just can't keep up with temperatures for as far as I can push the CPU.

Currently, I am able to run 4.1ghz OC w/o SMT and keep temps reasonable while gaming, but it's really pushing it. A little more voltage and/or lower temps will probably let me turn SMT back on.
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Hey, looks like 1700X and 1800X have a 20C offset. So your temps may actually be 20C lower than reported!

The primary temperature reporting sensor of the AMD Ryzen™ processor is a sensor called “T Control,” or tCTL for short. The tCTL sensor is derived from the junction (Tj) temperature—the interface point between the die and heatspreader—but it may be offset on certain CPU models so that all models on the AM4 Platform have the same maximum tCTL value. This approach ensures that all AMD Ryzen™ processors have a consistent fan policy.

Specifically, the AMD Ryzen™ 7 1700X and 1800X carry a +20°C offset between the tCTL° (reported) temperature and the actual Tj° temperature. In the short term, users of the AMD Ryzen™ 1700X and 1800X can simply subtract 20°C to determine the true junction temperature of their processor. No arithmetic is required for the Ryzen 7 1700. Long term, we expect temperature monitoring software to better understand our tCTL offsets to report the junction temperature automatically.
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Source: https://community.amd.com/community/gaming/blog/2017/03/13/amd-ryzen-community-update?sf62107357=1
 
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