AMD RYZEN Builders Thread

[Markfw]

Newegg has become shady.

All the asrock boards used to be like $10 cheaper, before asrock announced the MIR. Then suddenly newegg jacked the price up!

Well, the Taichi was $199 when I bought it weeks ago, and its still 199.

 

[fleshconsumed]

Well, the Taichi was $199 when I bought it weeks ago, and its still 199.

It used to be $189.99 at first when AM4 motherboards went up on newegg site, but a few days after ASRock issued their rebates in March Newegg adjusted price upwards accordingly.

 

[Ranulf]

From looking around a bit, the consensus seems to be the Tachi and the Asus Hero are the best boards for overclocking/memory compatibility right now? I've got a 1700 sitting here doing nothing and I'm itching to get the system built now. I've favored gigabyte lately but not heard glowing reports of their aorus boards so far.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Ha! I paid $317 for my Taichi when nobody else could get one. Am I a chump or what?

Yes Ranulf, I would say the C6H is the best OC board with the Taichi running second, though a few rare oddballs are doing well with that $299 MSI board. Not that I recommend it.

 

[EXCellR8]

my board's holding steady at $240 if you count in the MIR... the carbon only ran me $180.00 when I could finally snag one.

I'd say I'm a chump also, considering this board is basically a glorified Taichi with "gamier" elements and 50 bucks more.

 

[unseenmorbidity]

From looking around a bit, the consensus seems to be the Tachi and the Asus Hero are the best boards for overclocking/memory compatibility right now? I've got a 1700 sitting here doing nothing and I'm itching to get the system built now. I've favored gigabyte lately but not heard glowing reports of their aorus boards so far.

The K7 is quite good.

 

[fleshconsumed]

FYI ebay currently has six X370 Taichi's for $208.10 from two different sellers. Not quite as good as $194 (after rebate and shipping from newegg), but at least you can get one if you hurry.

 

[Zstream]

Well I'm frustrated with the new build. Some of the games I play really jitter with SMT enabled. I believe it's due to the fact the game is running on the SMT cores. Is there anyway to determine right off which cores have SMT enabled?

 

[IEC]

Well I'm frustrated with the new build. Some of the games I play really jitter with SMT enabled. I believe it's due to the fact the game is running on the SMT cores. Is there anyway to determine right off which cores have SMT enabled?

Try enabling high performance mode (or installing Ryzen balanced power plan) and seeing if you can do a fixed clock OC. I think before I did those two things Windows power management would occasionally give me microstutters due to changing clocks.

Balanced power plan installer:
https://community.amd.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/1461-70650/Ryzen_Balanced_Power_Plan.zip

 

[Topweasel]

All cores have SMT enabled. The quick answer is turn off even cores in affinity for that application (assuming that, that is what is causing the issue). Long answer is SMT on this isn't so much one core is Real and one is SMT. Both are schedulable and the CPU basically decides based on load and other things which to process. You can send a full 100% single core load to either CPU and it won't affect the workload.

Now windows is supposed to be able to tell which CPU are full cores and which are SMT for assignment (again just basically assuming all odds as real and evens as SMT). What you might be running into is Windows parking cores and flopping a really light workload around to keep power usage and clock speed low. If you have power set to balanced than that will happen a lot and was easily the main reason for Performance issues originally.

 

[CuriousMike]

Well I'm frustrated with the new build. Some of the games I play really jitter with SMT enabled. I believe it's due to the fact the game is running on the SMT cores. Is there anyway to determine right off which cores have SMT enabled?

Can you tell me which games you notice this in?

I've been playing a lot of Rocket League, Dirt Rally, Overwatch and some light titles ( Gauntlet, Helldivers, Grid Autosport ) and I've been experiencing the (perhaps imagined) "smoother framing" compared to my old i5-4590.

 

[Eric1987]

Rocket league, dirt rally, and overwatch are light titles, too.

 

[Zstream]

Try enabling high performance mode (or installing Ryzen balanced power plan) and seeing if you can do a fixed clock OC. I think before I did those two things Windows power management would occasionally give me microstutters due to changing clocks.

Balanced power plan installer:
https://community.amd.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/1461-70650/Ryzen_Balanced_Power_Plan.zip

Yep, enabled high performance plan. I did upgrade to the latest bios yesterday and haven't tested since. The new bios did fix my audio issues, maybe it fixed this.

 

[Zstream]

Can you tell me which games you notice this in?

I've been playing a lot of Rocket League, Dirt Rally, Overwatch and some light titles ( Gauntlet, Helldivers, Grid Autosport ) and I've been experiencing the (perhaps imagined) "smoother framing" compared to my old i5-4590.

Archeage, Crysis 3 - it's much smoother when playing WoT and gods and generals.

 

[EXCellR8]

my guilty pleasure KF2 is noticeably smoother even with vast amounts of gore flying all over the place.

anyone try Doom yet?

 

[Malogeek]

Diablo 3 is noticeably better for me during massive battles with lots of stuff going on everywhere. My old i5-3570k would stutter badly during the craziest fights.

 

[IEC]

I don't know about Doom, but I've been enjoying completely smooth Overwatch and Heroes of the Storm. I don't have the occasional stutters that I had with my i7. Which is weird, because neither of those are particularly demanding titles.

 

[CuriousMike]

Rocket league, dirt rally, and overwatch are light titles, too.

That may be the case, but I had north of 150 hours on Dirt Rally on my i5-4590 -- the last 20+ hours on my Ryzen has been smoother. I can't explain it... the framerates are better with Ryzen, but I play exclusively with V-Sync on. (Dirt Rally is weird if not locked.) .
https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/amd-ryzen-builders-thread.2499342/page-74#post-38798693

 

[guskline]

Waiting for an official update to the Asus C6H 1002 BIOS. I'm running one of the beta BIOS, 081, which is working well with both 4Ghz OC and ram running at DDR4-3200.

 

[IEC]

Guess who just updated to F3 on the Gigabyte K7...

32GB (4x8GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 achieved! I enabled XMP profile 1 and upped the voltage to 1.45V. May be able to go lower, we'll see. I should note I enabled XMP, saved and rebooted. Changed voltage, saved and rebooted.

 

[guskline]

GREAT job IEC. A couple more updates from AMD and these RyZen chips will really be solid.

 

[CuriousMike]

This is great news - I was nervous that 4x8GB would never support 3200.

32GB (4x8GB) DDR4-3200 CL14 achieved! .

 

[IEC]

My testbench (stress testing 4xDIMMs now):

 

[3DVagabond]

Any performance difference between 2x16 and 4x8? Is it better to populate all of the slots? Or have more or less chips per dimm?

 

[Crono]

Anyone running GTX 1070s in SLI with a 1600(X) or Ryzen 7? Considering doing it rather than waiting for Vega, and the 1070s would be a good upgrade for gaming and video editing from mining-worn R9 390s.