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Sapphire has started selling MBs in Germany, they released 4 AM5 uATX MBs but also
a low cost A520M based AM4, so a new MB 9 years after AM4 was released.

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Sapphire: AMD-Mainboards sind in Deutschland angekommen

Das Mainboard-Comeback von Sapphire erreicht Deutschland. Fünf Modelle für Sockel AM5 und AM4 sollen in Kürze erhältlich sein.
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AM4 is crazy! I'm on my third AM4 CPU in the same MB and the one I have now (5800x3d) is fast enough in what it does so that anything newer I bought would make minimal differences to my user experience but would involve a new MB and new RAM.
I kinda feel icky saying it but I can see me holding out for AM6 second gen CPUs if nothing catastrophic happens!
 
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WelshBloke said:
AM4 is crazy! I'm on my third AM4 CPU in the same MB and the one I have now (5800x3d) is fast enough in what it does so that anything newer I bought would make minimal differences to my user experience but would involve a new MB and new RAM.
I kinda feel icky saying it but I can see me holding out for AM6 second gen CPUs if nothing catastrophic happens!
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Not really anything new since the 2010 Core era. My AM3 mobo lasted ten years effectively with two different cpus and what, 3-4 gpus. My haswell i7 has really only been hurting on newer high end games the past 2-3 years, it is ten years old. AM4 is on track to last that long at least and would be even better if win11 didn't officially toss out zen cpu support.

I remember being surprised that my 2007 Conroe dual core was still quite good three years later and if the mobo hadn't died I would have gotten another two years out of it at least.
 
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Ranulf said:
Not really anything new since the 2010 Core era. My AM3 mobo lasted ten years effectively with two different cpus and what, 3-4 gpus. My haswell i7 has really only been hurting on newer high end games the past 2-3 years, it is ten years old. AM4 is on track to last that long at least and would be even better if win11 didn't officially toss out zen cpu support.

I remember being surprised that my 2007 Conroe dual core was still quite good three years later and if the mobo hadn't died I would have gotten another two years out of it at least.
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I had a C2Q that lasted awhile but I don't remember it staying competitive at the high end like the X3D chips have!
 
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Unless they glue Zen 4/5 to a 12nm IOd there really hasn't been anything interesting on AM4 since X3D.

It is effectively on the same footing as LGA1700 now. That's pretty amazing because it launched in 2016 and LGA1700 in 2021. But it seems basically dead.
 
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gdansk said:
Unless they glue Zen 4/5 to a 12nm IOd there really hasn't been anything interesting on AM4 since X3D.

It is effectively on the same footing as LGA1700 now. That's pretty amazing because it launched in 2016 and LGA1700 in 2021. But it seems basically dead.
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That they continue to make 12nm iods from glofo is by itself interesting, imo 😉


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Quick question: My cheap PSU has no 4 pin CPU power connector. Mobo is cheap ASROCK B550 HDV. No LED anywhere. No signs of life. The system will refuse to even show signs of life if the CPU power connector isn't connected?
 
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igor_kavinski said:
Quick question: My cheap PSU has no 4 pin CPU power connector. Mobo is cheap ASROCK B550 HDV. No LED anywhere. No signs of life. The system will refuse to even show signs of life if the CPU power connector isn't connected?
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A CPU 8 pin connector that doesn't split? You do not have it backwards?
 
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igor_kavinski said:
Quick question: My cheap PSU has no 4 pin CPU power connector. Mobo is cheap ASROCK B550 HDV. No LED anywhere. No signs of life. The system will refuse to even show signs of life if the CPU power connector isn't connected?
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Doesn't sound surprising really. The board needs that to power the CPU, and I guess it won't show any power without it. Perhaps it is a safety feature for protection. Btw, most 8 pin CPU connectors should be able to split into 2x 4 pins.
 
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Yeah but the dang cheap PSU (only $26) doesn't have ANY CPU connector. I thought the CPU would just run in ECO mode if the connector power was missing but I guess no :(

USB keyboard is getting power though.
 
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igor_kavinski said:
Yeah but the dang cheap PSU (only $26) doesn't have ANY CPU connector. I thought the CPU would just run in ECO mode if the connector power was missing but I guess no :(

USB keyboard is getting power though.
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I'm impressed you found a PSU that isn't at least ATX12V compliant in 2025. What model?
 
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Will check after work. PIII era PSU, WTF???

Molex to 4 pin adapter, yay or nay?

EDIT: Oh wait. It does have a 4+4 pin connector that I had forcefully connected to the GPU. So this means I need to use a slot powered GPU only.

Am I lucky that nothing blew up?
 
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If your PSU was on and EPS 12V plugged into the graphics card I think you are quite lucky it isn't dead.
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:eek:

I actually don't know that for sure. Took out that card and plugged in the slot powered one.

Don't both connectors use +12V DC?

Why can't those idiot Germans just print CPU on the connector like most PSU manufacturers do???
 
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11 hours till I get home and I hope I have some energy left to install Windows and confirm CPU stability with some benchmark.
 
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Some pins had paste residue on them that I didn't clean to save time. Online consensus was that it wouldn't harm anything. One youtuber even spread paste on the socket and then plugged in the CPU.

So that got me thinking: Why not spread non-conductive and non-capacitive thermal paste on the whole socket? Has someone done that?
 
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WelshBloke said:
AM4 is crazy! I'm on my third AM4 CPU in the same MB and the one I have now (5800x3d) is fast enough in what it does so that anything newer I bought would make minimal differences to my user experience but would involve a new MB and new RAM.
I kinda feel icky saying it but I can see me holding out for AM6 second gen CPUs if nothing catastrophic happens!
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Random Intel dude: "BUt noBoDy dOeS CPU onLy uPgraDes!".

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Yeah but the dang cheap PSU (only $26) doesn't have ANY CPU connector. I thought the CPU would just run in ECO mode if the connector power was missing but I guess no :(

USB keyboard is getting power though.
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Never EVER cheap out on a PSU. It's a common and sometimes fatal mistake.
 
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