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HUB's latest podcast thoroughly hashes out platform longevity. It's a long conversation.

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$500 I9 9900K vs 2700X. i9 was about 20% faster overall in gaming. But the 2700X ended up selling for $150. You could have bought the Ryzen, then later upgraded to a 5800X3D in 2023 for $240 or so and still had money leftover from the i9 cost. That's unadjusted dollars. The 3D is roughly 40% faster than the i9. There are games when you stop relying on the lazy geomean where it is much faster yet.

Convenience. Swapping out a CPU versus having to swap boards out and usually do a new OS install.

I am just going to post this poll when someone claims longevity does not matter. 37K+ votes in, and I don't expect the percentages to change as more voters weigh in.
 
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Asterox said:
Interesting comparison, but given the situation(DDR4 and DDR5 high prices)it is expected that people rush to the Ryzen R5 5500 now.

The Amazon list of best-selling processors confirms the situation. If anyone is interested, the Intel i5 12400F is on the solid 52nd place on that list.

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Locally in my area, the R5 5500 carries a price tag of 76 euros.

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You posted in the OG builders thread so I will respond here.

I picked up the 5500 for $55 on prime day. It's been in the top 5 sellers for months now. 5 minute swap out to get back one of my 5800X3Ds. But I did mess with a 5500 in the past. Did 5.5GHz all core just by changing the multiplier. 4000MT/s was not a problem either; good IMC.
 
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I put it in the general Ryzen Builders thread, just for the sake of order since the AM4 socket has no intention of becoming irrelevant.
Let's be realistic, there is a much better chance of the Klingons attacking Australia than of the AM4 socket becoming irrelevant in the near future .:grinning:
 
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Let's phrase that headline another way:
"Gamers are calling for AMD to restart Milan-X production even though it is unsaleable in 2026."

Don't count on it.
 
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In Germany AM4 CPUs still account for about 25% of AMD sales in volume, so if they release say a 5750X3D Last Edition with 4.3GHz max clock at reasonnable price they ll have no trouble selling at least 100-200k units worldwide, 5700X3D went as low as 200€ and it sold better than 5700X/5800X despite the ST clock deficit, it went EOL because they dedicated the production line to 7600X3D/7800X3D wich are are more profitable.
Btw AMD 5000 CPUs prices increased by 10-15% in a matter of two months.
 
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DAPUNISHER said:
If, as improbable as it is, they start producing and selling AM4 3D again, this quote will age like warm milk. I bookmarked it for potential future lulz. They will immediately outsell everything Intel in retail.
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Well, go for it. But I said Milan-X is unsaleable in 2026. Which it is. The gamer scraps were available because of that part.
 
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jpiniero said:
I don't think they will do it. DIY not a big enough market. OEMs would have to be interested, and I doubt there's enough DDR4 available.
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Last week Mindfactory sold 2000 AMD CPUs, and they lost a lot of customers this year due to difficulties, so they should be at least at 50k AMD CPUs for 2026, assuming they still manage to have 10% of the german market that s a total of 500k for the whole country, so how much in bigger markets like the US or China, and how much for the whole EU.?

Beside AMD make much more money for a CPU sold in reail than for the one delivered to an OEM, guess that they get roughly 2x if not 3x the net income.
 
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AMD's legacy Ryzen 7 5800X3D chips now sell for up to $800, more than a new 9800X3D​



Quite a few people called BS on this on reddit, but searching sold auctions on ebay showed most of them going in the $500 range. Wish I hadn't missed that window, but most other AM4 chips don't seem to be that crazy.
 
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PingSpike said:

AMD's legacy Ryzen 7 5800X3D chips now sell for up to $800, more than a new 9800X3D​



Quite a few people called BS on this on reddit, but searching sold auctions on ebay showed most of them going in the $500 range. Wish I hadn't missed that window, but most other AM4 chips don't seem to be that crazy.
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Just not workth it IMHO. Get a 5700X or 5800XT they are good enough. They are about $200 right now. Or bite the bullet of DDR5 and buy into a platform that has a future. Or you know, just wait. But patience is a virture many don't have in this world of instant gratification.
 
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CakeMonster said:
AM4 was amazing but I hope the (at this point no longer justified) hype won't fool someone into paying those prices.
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The only way I'd spend more money on it if I was on Zen(+), MAYBE Zen 2 and wanted an affordable quad core Zen 3. And even then only if I had 32GB of RAM.
 
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Thunder 57 said:
Just not workth it IMHO. Get a 5700X or 5800XT they are good enough. They are about $200 right now. Or bite the bullet of DDR5 and buy into a platform that has a future. Or you know, just wait. But patience is a virture many don't have in this world of instant gratification.
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This. 5800X3D has fallen behind in raw performance way too much, it's not worth it. Sure, you'll get to keep your mobo and DDR4, but overpay a lot for a slow processor. Just move to a new platform, you can use the large premium you would pay for AM4 X3D part for the costs of the transition. You will get an overall better system that will stay viable for much longer.
At this point, investing into AM4 platform can easily become a penny-wise, pound-foolish path.
 
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Jan Olšan said:
This. 5800X3D has fallen behind in raw performance way too much, it's not worth it. Sure, you'll get to keep your mobo and DDR4, but overpay a lot for a slow processor. Just move to a new platform, you can use the large premium you would pay for AM4 X3D part for the costs of the transition. You will get an overall better system that will stay viable for much longer.
At this point, investing into AM4 platform can easily become a penny-wise, pound-foolish path.
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It is true that DDR5 prices have surged to the moon.
 
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DDR4 price is mooning too, see if you can sell yours well.

If you want to be frugal by staying on AM4, stay on AM4 and your current CPU, don't even think about upgrading to overpriced&almost obsolete 5000X3D dead-ends. Or get used R5 5600 for low price if you can find it. Weather the 2-3 years, ultimately games are mostly bottlenecked by GPUs, so simply forget about opinions of enthusiasts and popular influencers that get hardware for free and lose the touch with the economic realities of gaming.

Yes, I am not a fan of esports or multiplayer shooters as you can see :)
 
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Jan Olšan said:
This. 5800X3D has fallen behind in raw performance way too much, it's not worth it. Sure, you'll get to keep your mobo and DDR4, but overpay a lot for a slow processor. Just move to a new platform.
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To quote Luke Skywalker, "Amazing... everything you just said is wrong".
Calling 5800x3D "slow" is basically missing the point. You have an amazing CPU that can last for a decade (let's face it, 95% of people are just gaming and doing non-intensive stuff), and I doubt any real-life use scenario would show the chip has "fallen behind in raw performance".
So unless you have some absurd computing needs, you can comfortably stay on Zen 4, bypass Zen 5 altogether, keep your money in the bank and laugh at those conned into buying the absolute latest and greatest for the sake of bragging rights...
 
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So unless you have some absurd computing needs, you can comfortably stay on Zen 4, bypass Zen 5 altogether, keep your money in the bank and laugh at those conned into buying the absolute latest and greatest for the sake of bragging rights...
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Wait till AM6 DDR6 & Zen 8/9 in 2030/2032 ?

Would you say is the 5800x3d good enough for that ?
 
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