AMD Ryzen 5 2400G and Ryzen 3 2200G APUs performance unveiled

[Shivansps]

Am I the only one that think the 2400G is priced correctly?
It sits right between the Ryzen 5 1400 and the 1500X, and it has the embedded graphics as a bonus.
Unless the lack of L3 cache really kills its performance, I am planning on consolidating R5 1400 and 1500X builds into 2400G...

On the other hand, the 2200G simply looks like a much much better value.

For CPU only its good, and for non-gaming its excellent, it petty much kills R5 1400 + GT710 and this ensures R5 and R3 Ryzen, now 2200G and 2400G can be competitive for non-gaming builds once H310 drops by, so this was a needed move either way.
For gaming with igp trought, its too expensive, and for "getting a APU, play with the IGP, then upgrade later to a dgpu" neither the 2200G and 2400G are a good idea since they are both quad cores. Im thinking around 2 years in the future here.

I would rather get a good MB and good 16GB kit memory as minimum, with a 2200G and then change the APU as well when upgrading to a dgpu, or shortly after.

 

[tential]

How is the HDMI/4K support on this thing? I was trying to google and couldn't get a clear answer, but it looks like it supports HDMI 2.0 base, and not hdmi 2.0a or b right?

So no HDR or other features higher up on HDMI 2.0?

It'd be really disappointing to see AMD behind on the HDMI support for this product. My searches did show CES 2018 AMD talking about HDMI 2.1 VRR support... so maybe they'll talk more about Freesync in HDTVs as they're late to getting back to us about that at this point. At least it sounds like from that announcement that the future gpus will be fully up to speed with HDMI for HTPC usage.

 

[Topweasel]

How is the HDMI/4K support on this thing? I was trying to google and couldn't get a clear answer, but it looks like it supports HDMI 2.0 base, and not hdmi 2.0a or b right?

So no HDR or other features higher up on HDMI 2.0?

It'd be really disappointing to see AMD behind on the HDMI support for this product. My searches did show CES 2018 AMD talking about HDMI 2.1 VRR support... so maybe they'll talk more about Freesync in HDTVs as they're late to getting back to us about that at this point. At least it sounds like from that announcement that the future gpus will be fully up to speed with HDMI for HTPC usage.

I am pretty sure Vega has support for HDMI 2.2. So I think the only problem would be board support. Problem is all we have are the 3** series boards. Once we get closer to launch you will start to see the feature set of the 400 series and I expect those will include HDMI 2.2 support.

 

[CatMerc]

we don't know for sure but, it would make more sense to use GPU score for GPU overclock and memory scaling I think, since they kept the CPU clocks intact.

But when graphics only score is used, it's usually explicitly stated as Firestrike Graphics.

Honestly can't be sure.

 

[tential]

I am pretty sure Vega has support for HDMI 2.2. So I think the only problem would be board support. Problem is all we have are the 3** series boards. Once we get closer to launch you will start to see the feature set of the 400 series and I expect those will include HDMI 2.2 support.

Are you sure you don't mean HDCP support? HDMI isn't at 2.2 spec yet is it? HDCP 2.2 is right?
Edit: Sorry, this was talked about as being a good HTPC processor, but have they talked about mini boards yet or HTPC specific builds?

https://www.anandtech.com/show/12319/zotac-displays-zbox-ma551-an-amd-raven-ridgebased-sff-pc

Has M2......
Nice.
Why is it Display Port 1.2?

 

[Abwx]

How is the HDMI/4K support on this thing? I was trying to google and couldn't get a clear answer, but it looks like it supports HDMI 2.0 base, and not hdmi 2.0a or b right?

So no HDR or other features higher up on HDMI 2.0?
.

Are you sure you don't mean HDCP support? HDMI isn't at 2.2 spec yet is it? HDCP 2.2 is right?

Why is it Display Port 1.2?

Info on this matter was already posted in this very thread, right ?..

the iGPU supports DisplayPort 1.4 and HDMI 2.0b, with resolutions of up to 3840 x 2160 @ 60 Hz with HDR, 1440p @ 144 Hz, and 1080p @ 240 Hz.

https://www.techpowerup.com/238175/amd-raven-ridge-silicon-detailed

 

[Hitman928]

Any mention of AMD getting Netflix 4k support? My HTPC is in need of an upgrade but I want to make sure it supports 4k steaming first.

 

[Topweasel]

Any mention of AMD getting Netflix 4k support? My HTPC is in need of an upgrade but I want to make sure it supports 4k steaming first.

I haven't heard of any. In theory PSP gives AMD the tech to work with per Netflix requirements. But their specific implementation requires Quicksync.

 

[Abwx]

Any mention of AMD getting Netflix 4k support? My HTPC is in need of an upgrade but I want to make sure it supports 4k steaming first.

https://www.hardware.fr/medias/photos_news/00/54/IMG0054927.jpg

https://www.hardware.fr/news/15327/ces-amd-detaille-roadmap-baisse-ses-prix.html

 

[IRobot23]

@TheStilt was completely correct, APUs will haver only 16 PCIE lanes in total (8x dGPU, 4x chipset, 4x other purp.)

 

[mohit9206]

You guys are underestimating 1030.Its a little beast. There's no way a 2400G even with fast ram can match 1030. Also a 1030 can overclock quite well to 750ti level.

 

[frozentundra123456]

For CPU only its good, and for non-gaming its excellent, it petty much kills R5 1400 + GT710 and this ensures R5 and R3 Ryzen, now 2200G and 2400G can be competitive for non-gaming builds once H310 drops by, so this was a needed move either way.
For gaming with igp trought, its too expensive, and for "getting a APU, play with the IGP, then upgrade later to a dgpu" neither the 2200G and 2400G are a good idea since they are both quad cores. Im thinking around 2 years in the future here.

I would rather get a good MB and good 16GB kit memory as minimum, with a 2200G and then change the APU as well when upgrading to a dgpu, or shortly after.

Compared to the previous generation, it is priced very well. The problem now is that it is bracketed by better values both above (1600) and below (2200).

 

[IRobot23]

You guys are underestimating 1030.Its a little beast. There's no way a 2400G even with fast ram can match 1030. Also a 1030 can overclock quite well to 750ti level.

or maybe you are underestimating 2400G.

 

[SirDinadan]

You guys are underestimating 1030.Its a little beast. There's no way a 2400G even with fast ram can match 1030. Also a 1030 can overclock quite well to 750ti level.

Considering how the RX 550 obliterates the GT 1030 in Forza games, I think the 2400G will have the better of the smallest Pascal dGPU in Forza 7 and FH3. Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus is another safe bet.

 

[Shivansps]

Considering how the RX 550 obliterates the GT 1030 in Forza games, I think the 2400G will have the better of the smallest Pascal dGPU in Forza 7 and FH3. Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus is another safe bet.

Even the 2200G is petty much a RX550, i dont think brute force is the problem.

 

[SirDinadan]

Even the 2200G is petty much a RX550, i dont think brute force is the problem.

Sure, the perf gap between the 2 APUs will not be that big, I just used the 2400G as mohit9206 compared it with the GT 1030. In this regard brute force is a problem because the scaling of AMD GPUs is usually pretty bad with respect to shader count.

 

[IRobot23]

People who still want more juice "maybe" (leaks) there will be HBM APU this year.

 

[Glo.]

People who still want more juice "maybe" (leaks) there will be HBM APU this year.

Something new appeared on this front?

 

[VirtualLarry]

I'm looking forward to picking up one of these APUs, I'm using a Puma- or maybe Kabini-based quad-core small-core APU in this laptop, and with an SSD, it's pretty great.

Which to get, though? I'm not going to be "casual gaming" with the APU I choose, but I might do some DC, and mining.

 

[wahdangun]

Something new appeared on this front?

Yeah there are leak of Feng Huang apu with rx 570D shader.

 

[Shivansps]

People who still want more juice "maybe" (leaks) there will be HBM APU this year.

It may be a console APU.

 

[daveybrat]

I'm looking forward to picking up one of these APUs, I'm using a Puma- or maybe Kabini-based quad-core small-core APU in this laptop, and with an SSD, it's pretty great.

Which to get, though? I'm not going to be "casual gaming" with the APU I choose, but I might do some DC, and mining.

I'm probably going with the 2400G. The hyperthreading and stronger GPU are worth it to me. But who knows, i might still get the 2200G instead. 😛

 

[neblogai]

I did not see this before- but again- great find from TUM_APISAK:
1. 3DMark Firestrike 2400G test with 3200MHz RAM: link.
2. Even better- Firestrike results at different RAM speed: link.
3. Firestrike Extreme and Timespy scores.

I'd like to add- that hardware in first link is Asrock ITX board with 16GB of 3200MHz RAM- so it might be the hardware we will see in 2400G reviews- because I think Anandtech mentioned this is what AMD is sending out to reviewers.

 

[Shivansps]

Well there goes the hope that it was running on DDR4-2400.

 

[PeterScott]

Yeah there are leak of Feng Huang apu with rx 570D shader.

The only thing likely with HBM is AMDs equivalent of the Kaby-G. Separate CPU and GPU and HBM chips.