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We're talking in circles here then. You're arguing AMD needs to provide value with an APU vs CPU/DGPU setup while I am arguing that AMD would probably be better off selling more CPUs/dGPUs at the pricing where such APU would provide value, classic catch-22.If It had the same FPS/$ as CPU+dGPU including Vram, no one would want to buy It.
Do you know how much profit does AMD need to make on an APU to be worth It, because I don't?
Remember that a significant portion of APU demand comes from laptop OEMs, and Dell/Lenovo/Asus et al aren't gonna pay higher prices for processors in XPS 13s/Thinkpads/Zenbooks just because there's a bunch more GPU in the die, given said GPU can't be utilized due to inherent form factor limitations, and that even they did, the end consumer may not pay a premium for such extra capability anyways.
Doesn't matter here, AFAIK, wafer costs for both processes are similar and AMD doesn't order N4/N5 separately. Rembrandt being N6 did not prevent supply being utterly terrible initially, presumably because AMD wanted the wafers in N7 form for their other products.This is not true for this case, because this big Zen4 APU is using N4 and Raphael is using N5, so different production lines.
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