AMD Carrizo Pre-release thread

[monstercameron]

Well, I think we have a winner!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9674/hp-announces-new-elitebook-with-amd-pro-aseries-apus

This ones have almost everything I wanted:
- M.2 slot for SSD
- 1080p screens (no IPS though, but SVA should suffice)
- backlit keyboard? probably

The only ting missing is eSATA, and I would have gladly traded the VGA for eSATA/USB combo (eSATAp) but oh well, you cannot win all of them.
Hope HP doesn't go bonkers on the pricing, keep it decent and they should sell a few

itll most likely be as expensive as the kaveri version.

 

[superstition]

Well, I think we have a winner!

http://www.anandtech.com/show/9674/hp-announces-new-elitebook-with-amd-pro-aseries-apus

This ones have almost everything I wanted:
- M.2 slot for SSD
- 1080p screens (no IPS though, but SVA should suffice)
- backlit keyboard? probably

The only ting missing is eSATA, and I would have gladly traded the VGA for eSATA/USB combo (eSATAp) but oh well, you cannot win all of them.
Hope HP doesn't go bonkers on the pricing, keep it decent and they should sell a few

SVA... how odd. tftcentral says it's related to S-PVA but S-PVA hasn't been on the market for many years.

If it's a VA panel type it should provide better contrast than IPS. But, it may have high input lag if it's very similar to S-PVA (or very low input lag if it's similar to AUO A-MVA). Slow pixel transitions in the darkest tones can also be an issue for MVA.

Unless you're doing pro graphics IPS is actually not so advantageous in a small form factor display like a laptop. The better contrast of a VA panel is likely more of a boon. However, the quality of the backlighting (color gamut in particular) can be an issue with any laptop display.

 

[alexruiz]

itll most likely be as expensive as the kaveri version.

It if is as expensive as the kaveri version, it is still reachable.
And let's keep in mind all of them come with 16GB RAM as base.
Let's wait and see

 

[ElFenix]

Per the blog post these start at $749

 

[Kallogan]

Carrizo already rebadged ^_^

 

[Arachnotronic]

monstercameron, congrats on the Carrizo laptop! All in all, would you say it was a worthwhile purchase?

 

[cbn]

Carrizo already rebadged ^_^

Its a Carrizo with AMD's version of vPro.

I wish we could get one with ECC as well (Toronto APU?).

P.S. If the G3 chassis is the same as the G2 (review here--> http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-EliteBook-755-G2-J0X38AW-Notebook-Review.126452.0.html ) then I am thinking it will be using 15W cTDP.

 

[monstercameron]

monstercameron, congrats on the Carrizo laptop! All in all, would you say it was a worthwhile purchase?

not really, not a big enough jump for my normal use cases (browsing, light gaming, media consumption). The only redeeming quality is the new formfactor.

 

[Arachnotronic]

not really, not a big enough jump for my normal use cases (browsing, light gaming, media consumption). The only redeeming quality is the new formfactor.

Sorry to hear that

 

[cbn]

So I got to wondering when we might see the first BGA Mini-ITX board based on Carrizo (launched June 2nd, 2015--> http://www.anandtech.com/show/9319/...p-leap-of-efficiency-and-architecture-updates).

Going by the release date of Kabini (another AMD BGA processor) which was May 23rd 2013 according to Anandtech -> http://www.anandtech.com/show/6976/...powering-xbox-one-playstation-4-kabini-temash , http://www.anandtech.com/show/6975/amd-kabini-apus-detailed

And the first Newegg review of the ECS KBN-I/5200 being 10/17/2013--> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813135363&ignorebbr=1

I wonder if there is a good chance we see a Carrizo BGA Mini-ITX fairly soon? I would like to get a A8-8600P with configurable TDP options for testing.

 

[monstercameron]

300 mins in my custom web browser average user test.

 

[AtenRa]

300 mins in my custom web browser average user test.

nice one thanks, have you done the same with the Kaveri laptop ??

 

[-sandro-]

OK now I'm confused.

 

[monstercameron]

nice one thanks, have you done the same with the Kaveri laptop ??

I didnt, but I will tonight.

 

[AtenRa]

I didnt, but I will tonight.

ok nice thanks

 

[dark zero]

Its a Carrizo with AMD's version of vPro.

I wish we could get one with ECC as well (Toronto APU?).

P.S. If the G3 chassis is the same as the G2 (review here--> http://www.notebookcheck.net/HP-EliteBook-755-G2-J0X38AW-Notebook-Review.126452.0.html ) then I am thinking it will be using 15W cTDP.

Rumors says that the Pro versión of the APU doesn't throttle so.much compared to consumer versions. However... If it gets hotter really fast... RIP AMD...

Thr only sure thinf is that Pro is better gaming chip than normal Carrizo.

 

[monstercameron]

Rumors says that the Pro versión of the APU doesn't throttle so.much compared to consumer versions. However... If it gets hotter really fast... RIP AMD...

Thr only sure thinf is that Pro is better gaming chip than normal Carrizo.

the pro chip is most likely the same silicon just with an enterprise friendly warranty.

 

[Infernus]

After having the current Kaveri Elitebook for the last 4 months - I just hope it has longer than 2 hours of battery life in Visual Studio.

 

[CHADBOGA]

not really, not a big enough jump for my normal use cases (browsing, light gaming, media consumption). The only redeeming quality is the new formfactor.

This is amazing honesty for which you should be commended.

I suspect a lot of people in your situation would not have been so forthcoming.

 

[dark zero]

This is amazing honesty for which you should be commended.

I suspect a lot of people in your situation would not have been so forthcoming.

Maybe he got bored from Intel small jumps and wanted something new and well... AMD jumping was decent... it has now the same level of Phenom and Core before Phenom X6.

And if AMD were smart... they could made Bristol Ridge use 6 cores without iGPU and 4 with it.

 

[cbn]

On top of that, even at 35 watts, carizzo would be a compromised solution for gaming, with more gpu than a non-gamer needs and modest cpu performance. Granted most older games and a fair number of less intensive newer games would be playable, but for a really robust gaming solution you still need something on the order of a GTX 960m. So there would be a market for it-- those who want to play games, but not all of them, and at modest settings. How big is that market?

I think it just depends on the price.

Ideally I would hope an OEM could design as 15W chassis, but then allow 42W boost when using AC Power (with the battery out).

Then at least a person doesn't have to sacrifice form factor for mobile, but gets a converged device that also functions as low end "desktop" workstation/gamer.

Who would buy this besides me? I guess it depends on the features (including ECC RAM, FirePro driver) AMD throws in and what part of the world is most attracted to converged devices?

My guess this kind of device would be most attractive in emerging economies where utility is valued over stylishness.

 

[Soulkeeper]

Anyone think there is a chance a10-7890K will be excavator based ?

 

[dark zero]

Anyone think there is a chance a10-7890K will be excavator based ?

No chance. It's an oced Kaveri.

 

[Soulkeeper]

That's a bummer.
The larger L1 cache and avx2 support would be nice on the desktop.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Apparently, the AVX2 support of Excavator isn't necessarily a good thing. At least on y-cruncher:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1560230/jagatreview-hands-on-amd-fx-8800p-carrizo/400_100#post_24310470

we can see AVX2 mode being only a hair faster than SSE3. Maybe if AVX2 apps were coded with Excavator in mind, it wouldn't be such a problem, but at that point, one may as well use xOP.