Seems most compute is intact. I sadly have no use for such though.Holy cow , 6700 GF FP64!! so AMD's goal was to kill entire titans.this card will be sold before any gamer buy it.
Holy cow , 6700 GF FP64!! so AMD's goal was to kill entire titans.this card will be sold before any gamers buy it.
It about par and better in 4k than rtx 2080 but in gameworks titles, and people were panning it when it is cheaper than some custom 2080s. They still are some way from Navi and better to have a product that everyone talks about, than being talked about for your absence. Besides how many will have had bought it at $1000 plus price point is anybody's guess.I really hope this isn't true. I'd want AMD to make as much money as they could to return to form. If they have a card they intend to compete with cards in the $1,000+ range and they are putting it out in the market for $700, they deserve to go bankrupt.
Why is it always "HD 4870 redux" around here. AMD has a product to compete with NV's product and they're going to sell it for peanuts. Yeah, good game AMD.
I really hope this isn't true. I'd want AMD to make as much money as they could to return to form. If they have a card they intend to compete with cards in the $1,000+ range and they are putting it out in the market for $700, they deserve to go bankrupt.
Why is it always "HD 4870 redux" around here. AMD has a product to compete with NV's product and they're going to sell it for peanuts. Yeah, good game AMD.
I really hope this isn't true. I'd want AMD to make as much money as they could to return to form. If they have a card they intend to compete with cards in the $1,000+ range and they are putting it out in the market for $700, they deserve to go bankrupt.
Why is it always "HD 4870 redux" around here. AMD has a product to compete with NV's product and they're going to sell it for peanuts. Yeah, good game AMD.
Seems most compute is intact. I sadly have no use for such though.
a fair few poor scientists and students are rubbing their hands with much glee
I wonder how it will do in ETH mining. I get around 40 MH/s on my Vega 64 Nitro.
I wonder how it will do in ETH mining. I get around 40 MH/s on my Vega 64 Nitro.
The ROP count has ZERO impact on its Perf:Watt. Polaris and Vega have low Perf:Watt only when clocked to the sky to be a desktop GPU. They were designed for low power usage, and when run in that configuration, is extremely power efficient. But since AMD wanted to sell them as desktop GPUs as well, they clocked them way up, which leads to power consumption skyrocketing.
My liquid cooled Vega 64 does 43 MH/s with the memory at 1100 MHz. With all that memory bandwidth on the Radeon VII, it could plausibly do close to 80 MH/s on the current version of ethash. Of course once Ethereum switches to ProgPoW in 3-5 months everything will change. All GPU's are expected to have their hash rate cut roughly in half.I wonder how it will do in ETH mining. I get around 40 MH/s on my Vega 64 Nitro.
My liquid cooled Vega 64 does 43 MH/s with the memory at 1100 MHz. With all that memory bandwidth on the Radeon VII, it could plausibly do close to 80 MH/s on the current version of ethash. Of course once Ethereum switches to ProgPoW in 3-5 months everything will change. All GPU's are expected to have their hash rate cut roughly in half.
POS got delayed. It won't see initial release until late this year or more likely 2020, and it will be released as its own chain that is tied to the current chain. So even for some time after after POS is live, POW is still going to be a thing that is needed. It's unclear how long it will be before a complete transition to POS where POW is deprecated, but that is likely still years away. So they figure it's better to cut out the centralizing force of ASICs as best as possible in the meantime - and I agree. Which also means GPU mining may become more of a thing again in a few months, and this Radeon VII could potentially find itself in high demand once that happens. It's even possible that this was part of why AMD decided to release this card after all.kind of off-topic but never heard of that till now and googled a bit. This is kind of a bummer. Why would they invest in a new POW algo when supposedly POS is coming "soon". So we can foresee even more delays with POS...
Memory size and ROP count are unrelatedI don't feel like watching the video again but people are confirming Lisa said it has 128 ROP's.
Did she slip and we will see a 32GB version this summer ?
Spending 700 on gpu alone to play at 1080p is weird to me.
4k HDR is where things are with displays, even tvs. 2080ti is better, but the price is rather high. 2080 custom solutions are about ~200 more than Radeon 7. I'd much rather game at 4k hdr with my current tv or new 4k monitors coming, than worry about something that is presently untenable at a reasonable price, plus not exactly widely adopted.To play BF5 with all the bells and whistles on including RTX you currently need a 2070 for 1080p. There is a thread about the 6gb on the 2060 being a issue with RTX on at 1080p in BF5 with one article mentioning them resorting to dropping textures from ultra to high with a HUGE fps gain.
This is good enough to stay relevant than absent, for which they'd have taken much more flak. Now question is, do you buy this, custom 2080 which is decidedly more expensive, or 2080ti which is in a price bracket of its own.Vega 20 is designed for data center compute workloads. See Radeon Instinct MI60 (full die) and MI50 (cut die). Since this is looking to be salvaged Vega 20 dies, it's really not a high-end gaming GPU design. But having the Radeon VII lets AMD market it as the "first 7nm gaming GPU" and have a halo product at a halo price, at least for ~1 year or so.
I don't think they're actually expecting to sell many of these. If they wanted to make a true gaming GPU in volume it would be a GDDR6-based design, not HBM2.
Most posters in this thread are complaining about the price being too high already.
This is good enough to stay relevant than absent, for which they'd have taken much more flak.