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AMD A10-5800K preview - iGPU side only

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let's run through some numbers 5800k vs 2100 :

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21% in favor of 5800k

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21% in favor of 2100

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8% in favor of 5800k

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19% in favor of 5800k

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9% in favor of 5800k

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16% in favor of 5800k

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18% in favor 5800k

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22% in favor of 5800k

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19% in favor of 2100

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11.5% in favor of the 5800k

there was 15 images so I removed the 5 lowest margins of victory
 
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LogOver said:
300% more graphics performance??? I see only 21%:

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21% more perf for 43% more power... Yep, good efficiency!
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Cherry picking again ??? Why play the Game in DX-9 when it is faster in DX-11 ??? Only an Intel fanboy would do that 😛

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As for the 300% (actually is 160%) sorry my bad 😛

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The Alias said:
I don't think you understand that there is already a review out from a reputable company proving the 5800k and 5700k is more powerful than intel's i3
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Where was I talking about an i3? I was talking about Trinity power consumption and clocks.
 
The Alias said:
let's run through some numbers 5800k vs 2100
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Any single / low threaded apps? If the i3 is really the comparison chip, and it's taking 4 Trinity cores to beat it, then Trinity is going to get obliterated in apps that aren't highly threaded.
 
Phynaz said:
Any single / low threaded apps? If the i3 is really the comparison chip, and it's taking 4 Trinity cores to beat it, then Trinity is going to get obliterated in apps that aren't highly threaded.
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21% faster than Trinity, so what ??? you can OC the Trinity and be faster both in Single, Multi and Graphics than Core i3 and at the same time have lower Idle power consumption.

It is getting ridiculous, Trinity is the better product than Core i3 in every metric and still people defending it. Intel should lower the price of Core i3 or provide an unlocked version.
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Phynaz said:
Awesome, it's four tenths of a watt lower, a whole 1% savings. 🙄

Where's the overclocked power draw that I was talking about? Are you going to be posting about that tomorrow??
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You do see that Core i3 in that graph is the 3220T, a 2.8GHz 35W HD2500 and not the 3.3GHz 3220 of 65W cpu that has higher Idle and full load power consumption.

edit: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2043/10/
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27 Watts vs 41 Watts against the 3770K. Wait for a few days and we will have all the data we need 😉
 
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AtenRa said:
Cherry picking again ??? Why play the Game in DX-9 when it is faster in DX-11 ??? Only an Intel fanboy would do that
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How is that cherry picking? Anand has tested power consumption in Metro 2033.
Combining power consumption from one application with performance in other is completely wrong.
Any way, accuse someone of something, and then do the same - only the real fanboy would do that (it's just about cherry picking).
 
LogOver said:
How is that cherry picking? Anand has tested power consumption in Metro 2033.
Combining power consumption from one application with performance in other is completely wrong.
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Again, the game is faster in DX-11 mode than DX-9.

And between you and me, measuring power consumption in Metro 2033 is the best situation for the Core i7 3770K. If Anand would measure the power consumption in Civilization or any other game things would look terrible for Intel 😉
 
Phynaz said:
Any single / low threaded apps? If the i3 is really the comparison chip, and it's taking 4 Trinity cores to beat it, then Trinity is going to get obliterated in apps that aren't highly threaded.
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yes two :

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and both of these could be in the 5800k's favor as it has an unlocked multiplier
 
5800K is just a better chip,face it guys... If intel provides an unlocked i3 then things may change (GPU performance would still be way subpar).
 
inf64 said:
5800K is just a better chip,face it guys... If intel provides an unlocked i3 then things may change (GPU performance would still be way subpar).
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Yes the 5800K is the better chip. An unlocked i3 would be very nice and destroy Bulldozer on the CPU side of things.
 
inf64 said:
5800K is just a better chip,face it guys... If intel provides an unlocked i3 then things may change (GPU performance would still be way subpar).
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no they won't, instead they'll point out the single core benches and say "games only care about single core performance ." then say the g630 and a 6670 would destroy it for the same price never mind the g630 is probably 12% less powerful in single threaded apps anyway, OR the 5800k's ability to overclock both it's igp and cpu
 
The Alias said:
no they won't, instead they'll point out the single core benches and say "games only care about single core performance ." then say the g630 and a 6670 would destroy it for the same price never mind the g630 is probably 12% less powerful in single threaded apps anyway, OR the 5800k's ability to overclock both it's igp and cpu
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Actually games are becoming increasingly multithreaded. Celeron/Pentium chips lack multithreading, so Trinity should beat them handily, especially when overclocked. :whiste:
 
richierich1212 said:
What motherboard will you be buying?
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I'm not sure yet but likely the MSI A85IA-E53 ITX board if it's available. I want to build a tiny VESA mounted HTPC/light gaming machine. I'll be undervolting the CPU to hopefully reduce the energy consumption to be more in-line with a 65W APU.
 
Tomshardware keeps recommending dual core Pentiums for low end gaming. They do this because their portfolio of test games is not well multithreaded. This may be the case right now, but in a year or two from now I fear that choice of a 2 core non-ht Pentium won't cut it. It is well documented that BF3 MP isn't playable on the Pentium. Yes, you could upgrade the CPU, but Trinity may have lower framerates than a Pentium in some poorly threaded games, but it is still playable while the Pentium can't handle games that require 4 threads.
 
I recently bought an Asus laptop with a quad core Radeon A6-3410 / Radeon 6420G laptop for only $350.00. After fusion tweaking the system it can easily handle large mutliplayer BF3 games at low settings at 1024/600 resolution. Sure the game details are low (BF3 still looks surprisingly good at low settings IMO) compared to my desktop but the game is fluid and responsive enough at a steady 30-35 FPS.

I am very impressed with the A6 so that's why I'm going for the A10-5800K and it should be much much faster where I expect to run modern games at 720P with medium detail settings plus older games at 1080p which should be just fine for this CPU.

I have an Intel HD 2105 already but it's still not very good for gaming/HTPC purposes without adding a discreet card so I'll be moving that system to another room or selling it altogether. The advantage of the Trinity platform over Intel here is being able to build a low power HTPC & gaming box in an tiny ITX case ideally VESA mounted to the back of your TV.
 
Speaking of "improvements":

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Slower than the Llano A8 in 7-zip.

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Slower in Cinebench 11.5 as well.

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Only on-par with Llano on video encoding.

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Extremely low single-threaded performance=not good for gaming.

Pretty much what I thought. Piledriver is not much more than a mere refresh of Bulldozer; I don't know where all the hype came from when it was clear to anyone unbiased it would be a slight improvement. There's programs where it's actually slower than Llano.
 
LOL_Wut_Axel said:
Speaking of "improvements":

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Slower than the Llano A8 in 7-zip.

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Slower in Cinebench 11.5 as well.

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Only on-par with Llano on video encoding.

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Extremely low single-threaded performance=not good for gaming.

Pretty much what I thought. Piledriver is not much more than a mere refresh of Bulldozer; I don't know where all the hype came from when it was clear to anyone unbiased it would be a slight improvement. There's programs where it's actually slower than Llano.
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Looks like a very good chip for its price point.
 
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