AMD A10-5800K preview - iGPU side only

[inf64]

So it takes a 5Ghz AMD quad core to obsolete a 3Ghz Intel dual core. You said it, not me.

Come on you know that's not true. 5Ghz Trinity QC will actually come very very close to 3.3-3.4Ghz SB/IB with no SMT. And there we actually have a 2 FP units in "quad core" trinity versus a real quad core design as SB/IB.

 

[AtenRa]

So it takes a 5Ghz AMD quad core to obsolete a 3Ghz Intel dual core. You said it, not me.

Actually, A10-5800K is faster in most of the cases over a 3.1GHz core i3 even at Default, just image what it can do at 5GHz

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-trinity-apu,3241-4.html

 

[LogOver]

just image what it can do at 5GHz

burnt out electrical fuses...?

 

[inf64]

LogOver you are a funny man . Yeah, it will burn out the fuses with it's power efficient high clocking cores...

 

[anikhtos]

So it takes a 5Ghz AMD quad core to obsolete a 3Ghz Intel dual core. You said it, not me.

i said it first but it does not matter

 

[Hacp]

If you had the reading comprehension of a junior high school student, you would know why.

But as you clearly don't, I'll have to help you out.

There was a series of posts from AlexRuiz and LOL_Wut_Axel which were specifically comparing the FX-4100 to the Pentium range, and I decided to join into their debate.

So is it clear now??? Or do you need even more help?

Take that to PMs. Don't discuss the FX-4100 or pentiums if it isn't related to Trinity in a Trinity thread.

 

[anikhtos]

Actually, A10-5800K is faster in most of the cases over a 3.1GHz core i3 even at Default, just image what it can do at 5GHz

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/a10-5800k-a8-5600k-trinity-apu,3241-4.html

lol okey toms compare it to a sandy brdige not a ivy bridge
and even a sandy bridge beats the a10 in some test
in some others the ivy bridge would surelly call it a tie
as far for some other benchmark where amd is ahead
it is liano that beats trinity!!!!!!!!!!!!
win i3
phtoshop 5.5, acrobat x, i tunes, winrar


tie i3
photoshop 6.0, after effects 6,0, solidworks. finereader10, visual studio 2010,
main concept 2,2, winzip 16,5, 7zip

wide diference winner LIANO
3dsmax 12, fritz 4,3

so with your test how you show trinity better???
in 2 test the difference is huge it is for liano not trinity again a newer cpu is beaten by an old one,
toms uses a sandy not an ivy thus the category tie cause we have trinity beating sandy around 0-10% in this category so ivy will address this and make it a true tie or a win for ivy

so 4 for i3 even sandy 2 for trinity the other close to call.

we can call it that the cpu are matching in perfomance

 

[alexruiz]

What utter rubbish.

The person who makes the far fetched claim has the onus on them to substantiate it.

We have all seen the Pentium kick around the FX-4100 in single player games, why would anyone in their right mind then believe your unsupported claims that the FX-4100 turns the tables in multiplayer gaming.

You called the reading comprehension of another member "junior high school". Seeing from who that claim is coming from, that was a compliment, as is evident that you barely know how to read. You are an alt of troll_wut_axel, right? Both of you are not only intellectually challenged, you are deluded.

Far fetched claim? It has been well documented all over the web that frostbite 2.0 engine games are well threaded, and on MP scenarios a dual core is unplayable. That is, if you pay attention to what is going on around, but like your alt, you obviously are clueless. Let me link it that example again:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2259681

enjoy you monster pentium

 

[alexruiz]

lol okey toms compare it to a sandy brdige not a ivy bridge
and even a sandy bridge beats the a10 in some test
in some others the ivy bridge would surelly call it a tie
as far for some other benchmark where amd is ahead
it is liano that beats trinity!!!!!!!!!!!!
win i3
phtoshop 5.5, acrobat x, i tunes, winrar


tie i3
photoshop 6.0, after effects 6,0, solidworks. finereader10, visual studio 2010,
main concept 2,2, winzip 16,5, 7zip

wide diference winner LIANO
3dsmax 12, fritz 4,3

so with your test how you show trinity better???
in 2 test the difference is huge it is for liano not trinity again a newer cpu is beaten by an old one,
toms uses a sandy not an ivy thus the category tie cause we have trinity beating sandy around 0-10% in this category so ivy will address this and make it a true tie or a win for ivy

so 4 for i3 even sandy 2 for trinity the other close to call.

we can call it that the cpu are matching in perfomance

Word by word quote on what THG concluded. Bold is mine.

the impressions I came away with in that story, I can now add that Sandy Bridge-based Core i3s fare about as well as I expected them to. The Core i3-2100 does well in single-threaded x86 metrics, where its efficient architecture simply muscles past AMD’s best effort with the Piledriver design. There aren't many, though, and I imagine they'll only get more rare and less meaningful over time.

A majority of our threaded tests—particularly the ones that emphasize integer-heavy code—go in AMD’s favor. It’ll take more than a dual-core 3.1 GHz chip to get Intel ahead in those benchmarks. Maybe the $125 Core i3-2120 is a better choice, or the $150 Core i3-2130.

Whichever Core i3-2xx0 CPU you pick, you’re stuck with HD Graphics 2000, and that’s a real bummer. Sandy Bridge’s low-end graphics engine can hardly be recommended for any low-resolution, low-quality gaming environment. And any time you want to step up to HD Graphics 3000, it’s an extra $25 or $35 dollars. Even then, you’re not getting a phenomenal upgrade.

 

[anikhtos]

Word by word quote on what THG concluded. Bold is mine.

still we will compare the latest generation of amd with one generation previous of intel???
by the way you missed that i said
a10 and i3 more or less look to be in pair with each other the difference is not that big either way
as a cpu performance

 

[CHADBOGA]

Take that to PMs. Don't discuss the FX-4100 or pentiums if it isn't related to Trinity in a Trinity thread.

The relation is how AMD's architecture compares to Intel, so with you being unable to comprehend that, don't discuss any matter here in any thread.

Make sure that all you do is send PMs to people.

 

[AtenRa]

Youtube video

AMD Trinity A10-5800K Piledriver APU vs Intel Core i3 Ivy Bridge - HotHardware

 

[cebalrai]

I wonder if Trinity will do any better with dual graphics... And does anyone know why my Llano Dual graphics setup (3870K+6670) doesn't work in Guild Wars 2? It works everywhere else I try it...

 

[AtenRa]

most probable drivers

 

[Hacp]

The relation is how AMD's architecture compares to Intel, so with you being unable to comprehend that, don't discuss any matter here in any thread.

Make sure that all you do is send PMs to people.

FX-4100 =/= A105800K. They are different chips. If you want to talk about architecture, talk about the A10's architecture, not the FX-4100's architecture.

 

[CHADBOGA]

FX-4100 =/= A105800K. They are different chips. If you want to talk about architecture, talk about the A10's architecture, not the FX-4100's architecture.

One forms the base for the other, thus creating relevancy.

In time you will understand this.

 

[cebalrai]

most probable drivers

Probably. ugh, I bet it will not be addressed soon. If ever.

 

[Phynaz]

with it's power efficient high clocking cores...

Where have we heard this before? Oh yeah, with the Derpdozer launch! How did that work out?

 

[The Alias]

Where have we heard this before? Oh yeah, with the Derpdozer launch! How did that work out?

I don't think you understand that there is already a review out from a reputable company proving the 5800k and 5700k is more powerful than intel's i3

 

[Hacp]

One forms the base for the other, thus creating relevancy.

In time you will understand this.

You just said nothing. We have numbers for Trinity. At this point, Bulldozer numbers are pointless. When someone starts arguing philosophy instead of numbers, we know what he's saying is bullshit.

 

[NTMBK]

One forms the base for the other, thus creating relevancy.

In time you will understand this.

The Pentium M formed the basis for today's Ivy Bridge, does that mean we should be debating that?

 

[CHADBOGA]

The Pentium M formed the basis for today's Ivy Bridge, does that mean we should be debating that?

An architecture 1 step removed is very relevant to discussions.

An architecture 5 steps removed is much less relevant.

 

[CHADBOGA]

You just said nothing. We have numbers for Trinity. At this point, Bulldozer numbers are pointless. When someone starts arguing philosophy instead of numbers, we know what he's saying is bullshit.

I didn't start the discussion about Bulldozer, rather I was responding to someone else who did.

So direct by PM, any problems you have with that, to them.

 

[AtenRa]

Where have we heard this before? Oh yeah, with the Derpdozer launch! How did that work out?

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6332/amd-trinity-a10-5800k-a8-5600k-review-part-1

Lower Idle even than 3220T (35watt CPU)

43% more power than 3770K for 40% to 300% more graphics performance

 

[LogOver]

43% more power than 3770K for 40% to 300% more graphics performance

300% more graphics performance??? I see only 21%:

21% more perf for 43% more power... Yep, good efficiency!