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Go exercise during the day or something. Be like "my job right now is to sleep so I can get shit done tommorow" and that usually does the trick for me. Pushing thoughts out of your mind is a skill.

yup. i tell myself "man, i'm gonna be so fucked if i don't go to sleep right now..." and that usually gets me sleeping
 

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yup. i tell myself "man, i'm gonna be so fucked if i don't go to sleep right now..." and that usually gets me sleeping

That's what keeps me awake. It's like I get almost anxiety that I'm not going to fall asleep. It's odd... I found a drug that works on the nights I need it, I use it a a couple times a week and am fine with that.
 

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i did some googling around and found nothing to support what you said. i've found several places where people said benadryl was originally a sleep aid.

maybe it's just an urban legand... *shrug*

You suck at google.

http://www.allergizer.com/50226711/thank_george_rieveschl_for_benadryl.php

http://health.uc.edu/health/aboutus/history.html

And hell, how about just the wiki which says he discovered it in 43 and it was first marketed in 46 as AN ALLERGY DRUG.

Damn, eits...
 
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Has anyone tried that Altril stuff they are always pitching on late night TV?..
 

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If you can get to sleep on your own it helps you sleep deeper and wake up feeling "ahhhh" refreshed. But thats if you can get to sleep on your own.

Seemed to work fairly well for me last night, but I'm only able to get ~5hr of sleep if I'm lucky on a week night. Been getting less than 3 every night this week and last week. Causes problems.

I'm not a big fan of medications though. Seems like they are way over used, at least, in the US. Every problem has a drug to address it. Some one gets a cough, most will run to Walmart for some cough syrup, some see a doctor for prescription meds for simple colds. We are way over medicated these days.
 

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Seemed to work fairly well for me last night, but I'm only able to get ~5hr of sleep if I'm lucky on a week night. Been getting less than 3 every night this week and last week. Causes problems.

I'm not a big fan of medications though. Seems like they are way over used, at least, in the US. Every problem has a drug to address it. Some one gets a cough, most will run to Walmart for some cough syrup, some see a doctor for prescription meds for simple colds. We are way over medicated these days.

Not only does there seem to be a drug for every problem...but there's a problem for every drug...even if they have to invent one to justify the new pharmaceuticals...
 

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You suck at google.

http://www.allergizer.com/50226711/thank_george_rieveschl_for_benadryl.php

http://health.uc.edu/health/aboutus/history.html

And hell, how about just the wiki which says he discovered it in 43 and it was first marketed in 46 as AN ALLERGY DRUG.

Damn, eits...

i trust my pharmacist friend.

i may have misunderstood... it may have been diphenhydramine he was talking about. *shrug*

i'd rather let you waste your minutes chasing after the facts on that... i, personally, have a life and won't lose any sleep over it.
 

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i may have misunderstood... it may have been diphenhydramine he was talking about. *shrug*

Benadryl IS diphenhydramine.

Not that anyone is surprised that the AT resident fake doctor doesn't know shit about anything.
 

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Benadryl IS diphenhydramine.

Not that anyone is surprised that the AT resident fake doctor doesn't know shit about anything.

yeah, i know they're the same thing. that was why i said it. that was my point. i didn't misunderstand. benadryl was invented by accident. i may not have had the specifics right, but what i was told isn't different from the truth.

originally, the guy was trying to create an alternative to scopolamine (which was used as a sleep aid and was an active ingredient in sleep aids and relaxants). he discovered it was a better antihistamine and it got marketed as an antihistamine.

honestly, what's wrong with you people. do you really have nothing better to do with your lives than to be disgusting human beings? you always have something negative to say or some argument to start. you don't know anything about me or how i practice, yet you find it necessary to constantly talk trash. what the hell does it matter to you?

i consistently try being nice to some of you people in the hopes of avoiding confrontation and achieving a level of mutual respect, seeing how i don't know you and you don't know me and people are people. several times, i've tried extending olive branches to amused, yet he's still a complete shithead. i've offered condolences when his brother died, mainly because i felt sorry for him but also in the hopes that he'd stop being such a dick. i guess it was stupid of me to imagine how any of you people could be good people when met with kindness and non-confrontation.

i've never said a bad thing towards you, dt4k... wtf is your problem? what did i ever say to you that would make you SUCH an asshole? just because you disagree with what i do for a living? really? you don't know anything about how i practice. even if you did, what the hell does it matter to you? how is it affecting anything in your life? you think i slap the mop out of your hand while you're at your job because i don't like pine sol? fuck yourself.

when you're able to drastically reduce dysmenorrhea, decrease headaches, get people out of wheelchairs, and help people get back to enjoying lives happier and healthier, then you can talk to me. until then, stfu and live your own life.
 

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I take Ambien CR only because I take Adderall XR during the day. Even if I physically tire myself my mind will not go to sleep at any decent hour without it. I can "sleep" but its a horrid half awake never dreaming non refreshing sleep without Ambien.
 

DT4K

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no response?

I'm not an asshole. Actually, I'm quite a nice guy.
You are a scumbag who makes a living through taking advantage of gullible people who believe the bullshit that is chiropractic "medicine". Forgive me if I get a bit hostile towards people who make shit up as they go to serve their own purposes.

I was simply pointing out one more instance where you are showing your complete lack of scientific knowledge. No, you did NOT know that Benadryl is Diphenydramine. If you did, you wouldn't have said what you said. As always, you are changing your story and making up more bullshit to try to spin what you said and convince people that you know something which you don't.
 

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I can only hope that you won't take it because I've been on it for over 3 years and cannot sleep without it. Several times I've tried and the withdrawal was absolutely impossible to deal with. Basically you won't be able to sleep ever again without it and the side effects with the alcohol are very real. I've done many odd things that I'd be too embarassed to admit. Instead try something off the counter if you haven't. Ambien is absolutely evil stuff. I'm still not off of it..
 
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I can only hope that you won't take it because I've been on it for over 3 years and cannot sleep without it. Several times I've tried and the withdrawal was absolutely impossible to deal with. Basically you won't be able to sleep ever again without it and the side effects with the alcohol are very real. I've done many odd things that I'd be too embarassed to admit. Instead try something off the counter if you haven't. Ambien is absolutely evil stuff. I'm still not off of it..

What about stepping down? Get regular Ambien (not the time-released one) and cut the pills in half, then in quarters, etc....
 

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I can only hope that you won't take it because I've been on it for over 3 years and cannot sleep without it. Several times I've tried and the withdrawal was absolutely impossible to deal with. Basically you won't be able to sleep ever again without it and the side effects with the alcohol are very real. I've done many odd things that I'd be too embarassed to admit. Instead try something off the counter if you haven't. Ambien is absolutely evil stuff. I'm still not off of it..

MMJ > Ambien
 

hiromizu

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What about stepping down? Get regular Ambien (not the time-released one) and cut the pills in half, then in quarters, etc....

Believe me I've tried. I take regular Ambien right now and only take half a pill now (about 5mg). Without some Ambien, I am wide awake..very tired..but wide awake..and nothing puts me to sleep. Not even a slow release bj. Drives my gf crazy sometimes but she's understanding.
 

hiromizu

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Anyway OP, don't take the drug. It's highly addictive and extremely damaging in the long run which is inevitable, when you realize how good it works on that first try.
 

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I'm not an asshole. Actually, I'm quite a nice guy.
You are a scumbag who makes a living through taking advantage of gullible people who believe the bullshit that is chiropractic "medicine". Forgive me if I get a bit hostile towards people who make shit up as they go to serve their own purposes.

I was simply pointing out one more instance where you are showing your complete lack of scientific knowledge. No, you did NOT know that Benadryl is Diphenydramine. If you did, you wouldn't have said what you said. As always, you are changing your story and making up more bullshit to try to spin what you said and convince people that you know something which you don't.

i'm not a scumbag and i definitely don't take advantage of people. like i said, you don't know anything about me.

yes, i did know that benadryl was diphenhydramine. how the hell would it have made any sense if i DIDN'T know they were the same thing?

what i said was an annoyed response to someone who is a perpetual crab-ass and asshole everywhere he posts. i knew they were the same... i didn't misunderstand... that's why i said i must have misunderstood and that i must have been thinking about the other name (and lesser known chemical name) for the same damn thing.

anyways, you don't know anything about me. so, please, don't take your hostility out on me because you had some bad experience with someone from the same field as me. i don't treat you like shit just because of some asshole negligent janitor i may have encountered in the past.
 
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i'm on 10 mg ambien. i was drunk the other night(monday) and guess i took one. called a friend during the night and left a voicemail. said he didn't know what the fuck i was talking about. female friend of mine said i called her talking about all kinds of crazy shit. i won't lie, i remember seeing all kinds of cool shit before i blacked out.

best sleep ever.
 

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Lifer
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i'm on 10 mg ambien. i was drunk the other night(monday) and guess i took one. called a friend during the night and left a voicemail. said he didn't know what the fuck i was talking about. female friend of mine said i called her talking about all kinds of crazy shit. i won't lie, i remember seeing all kinds of cool shit before i blacked out.

best sleep ever.

lol :D Glad you got back home safe!