Ambien CR

[SlowSpyder]

I can tell you from experience, don't take it with a drink. 🙂 It already causes pretty good amnesia if you don't go to bed right after taking it. You're fine if you drank yesterday and take the Ambien the next night.

*edit - If your doctor is open to it, I found temazepam to be much better than Ambien. It's more... 'gentle' in it's action. It helps me slow down my mind and fall asleep, I wake up great when I take it. It's also much cheaper, 30 30mg temazepam pills cost about $6 on my insurance. Because Ambien CR is not available in a generic it's much more expensive for me, $30 if I remember correctly.

 

[TwiceOver]

Such good stuff. Two beers an ambien gives me 10 hours uninterrupted.

 

[Bateluer]

OP, have you tried something less harsh than prescription medication? Melatonin pills, available from Walmart, GNC, etc, work pretty well for me. Its only 4 bucks for 120 3mg tablets and all natural.

 

[brainhulk]

I wouldn't recommend alcohol at all. In addition to the respiratory arrest that can occur with ambien, it prevents the restfull stages of sleep

 

[OutHouse]

Depends... worse than true chronic insomnia? Granted it probably gets over perscribed, but think about someone who simply can't sleep and what this drug could mean for them.

Has anyone tried a half of a dose?

thats me.

Ambien CR is a funky drug. I prefer Lunesta and I love it. i can finally get a solid 8 hours of sleep. the doc gives me the 10mg pill of which i cut in half.

 

[OutHouse]

OP, have you tried something less harsh than prescription medication? Melatonin pills, available from Walmart, GNC, etc, work pretty well for me. Its only 4 bucks for 120 3mg tablets and all natural.

melatonin is ineffective as a sleeping pill. its been proven by many studies and from my own personal usage of it.

 

[vi edit]

Why not try a single benadryl? That knocks me out cold for 8-10 hours. That's my go-to sleep aid.

$4 for a 500ct bottle at Sam's club. No perscription needed.

 

[OutHouse]

Why not try a single benadryl? That knocks me out cold for 8-10 hours. That's my go-to sleep aid.

$4 for a 500ct bottle at Sam's club. No perscription needed.

benadryl also knocks me out but wow talk about totally hung over feeling. its so bad i will not take it.

thats why i like lunesta, no hung over feeling and its way more "gentle" than ambien.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Why not try a single benadryl? That knocks me out cold for 8-10 hours. That's my go-to sleep aid.

$4 for a 500ct bottle at Sam's club. No perscription needed.

Because Benadryl and doxylamine (the other formulation for Unisom) are antihistamines that only make me physically groggy, maybe the OP is the same? My problem is I'll lay down and my mind will not shut off some nights. I'll lay in bed for hours. I'll wake up constantly if I do start to fall asleep. And if I do fall asleep with something like Benadryl, a lot of the time I'll wake up feeling groggy. It just doesn't work for me well as a sleep aid. For some it might, but for many it's just not that effective.

And for the person who suggested melatonin, I've tried that, it doesn't work at all for me. I've read that the amount that is put in the pills that are sold (often 2 - 5mg) is way, way too much. It's hardly natural to take such a massive amount, and for me it's not effective.

 

[Thebobo]

From wht I understand

Ambian CR - is controlled release version of Ambian and is not available as a generic

Plain old Ambian is available in generic form, I take a version of it called Zolpidem.


I usualy take half a Zolpidem and one 3 mg melatonin and for me its very effective.

 

[eits]

Because Benadryl and doxylamine (the other formulation for Unisom) are antihistamines that only make me physically groggy, maybe the OP is the same? My problem is I'll lay down and my mind will not shut off some nights. I'll lay in bed for hours. I'll wake up constantly if I do start to fall asleep. And if I do fall asleep with something like Benadryl, a lot of the time I'll wake up feeling groggy. It just doesn't work for me well as a sleep aid. For some it might, but for many it's just not that effective.

And for the person who suggested melatonin, I've tried that, it doesn't work at all for me. I've read that the amount that is put in the pills that are sold (often 2 - 5mg) is way, way too much. It's hardly natural to take such a massive amount, and for me it's not effective.

benedryl was actually first made as a sleep aid... they found that it was the best antihistamine ever, so they changed the marketing.

 

[Regs]

benedryl was actually first made as a sleep aid... they found that it was the best antihistamine ever, so they changed the marketing.

off-label marketing is a no-no, so you have to go back to step 1 with drugs (at least now you do).

 

[eits]

off-label marketing is a no-no, so you have to go back to step 1 with drugs (at least now you do).

that's probably how it happened... either that or there was no law against it way back in the day when it was invented.

that's how it was explained to me by a pharmacy manager friend of mine (pharmacy managers, btw, make BANK... he's bringing in $300k/yr as the walgreen's pharmacy manager).

 

[Amused]

benedryl was actually first made as a sleep aid... they found that it was the best antihistamine ever, so they changed the marketing.

Um, no. It was invented while trying to make a synthetic form of scopolamine. It was not first developed as a sleep aid, nor was it first marketed as such.

It was a stumble upon invention and the first true antihistamine.

 

[vi edit]

I was doing a little homework on diphenhydramine (Benadryl) and found this interesting...

Diphenhydramine is among the prohibited and controlled substances in the Republic of Zambia.[20] Travelers are advised not to bring this drug into the country. Several Americans have been detained by the Zambian Drug Enforcement Commission for possession of Benadryl and other over-the-counter medications containing diphenhydramine.[21]
It is also strictly prescription-only in most of the former Soviet Union. While most prescription medications are regularly dispensed without prescriptions, diphenhydramine is firmly associated with intravenous opiate use, will not be sold, and possession may cause complications with law enforcement.[citation needed]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diphenhydramine

It's a controlled substance in some countries.

 

[Gooberlx2]

people have been known to sleep shop on ambian. it's wicked stuff.

Ugh, I fuckin' HATE it when my wife does that! We've resorted to locking up her purse when it's bedtime before. She also gets the ambien-munchies quite frequently.

Ambien usually knocks my wife out, but sometimes it just doesn't work right (maybe she's stressed that day, or a bit manic) and goes in to the pseudo-conscious zombie state. She'll be awake and can mostly function, but won't remember a thing the next day. She tried Lunesta, but really hated the "shit mouth" effect and it simply didn't work as well as Ambien.

 

[SlowSpyder]

benedryl was actually first made as a sleep aid... they found that it was the best antihistamine ever, so they changed the marketing.

I did not know it was originally a sleep aid, but I do know that the same ingredient, diphenhydramine, is just put in different boxes with different labels. One is allergy medicine. The othe is a sleep aid. Either way, it doesn't work for me. It doesn't 'turn off' my mind it just makes me feel groggy.

 

[Ns1]

why spend money on ambien when marijuana will do the same goddamn thing

no ambien sleep walking either.

 

[OverVolt]

only time i've ever half-ass hallucinated that i can remember is off ambien. it's definitely meant to be taken, then to get your ass to sleep. if you drink a bit o' alcohol then take it, and then go to sleep, i don't see how it can hurt you

If you have too many depressants in your system your breathing rate slows down too much while you sleep and you die. Whats the harm in that rite?

 

[OverVolt]

I did not know it was originally a sleep aid, but I do know that the same ingredient, diphenhydramine, is just put in different boxes with different labels. One is allergy medicine. The othe is a sleep aid. Either way, it doesn't work for me. It doesn't 'turn off' my mind it just makes me feel groggy.

Go exercise during the day or something. Be like "my job right now is to sleep so I can get shit done tommorow" and that usually does the trick for me. Pushing thoughts out of your mind is a skill.

 

[OverVolt]

melatonin is ineffective as a sleeping pill. its been proven by many studies and from my own personal usage of it.

If you can get to sleep on your own it helps you sleep deeper and wake up feeling "ahhhh" refreshed. But thats if you can get to sleep on your own.

 

[Gooberlx2]

why spend money on ambien when marijuana will do the same goddamn thing

no ambien sleep walking either.

Not for everyone. Medical MJ does help my wife to relax, but doesn't cause her to fall asleep. It depends on the nature of your sleeping disorder.

 

[Ns1]

Not for everyone. Medical MJ does help my wife to relax, but doesn't cause her to fall asleep. It depends on the nature of your sleeping disorder.

try a different method of ingesting MMJ

(comatose cookies, hash)

Take enough MMJ and you will pass out.

 

[eits]

Um, no. It was invented while trying to make a synthetic form of scopolamine. It was not first developed as a sleep aid, nor was it first marketed as such.

It was a stumble upon invention and the first true antihistamine.

i did some googling around and found nothing to support what you said. i've found several places where people said benadryl was originally a sleep aid.

maybe it's just an urban legand... *shrug*

 

[vi edit]

i did some googling around and found nothing to support what you said. i've found several places where people said benadryl was originally a sleep aid.

maybe it's just an urban legand... *shrug*

Wiki says this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Rieveschl

Dr. George Rieveschl (January 9, 1916[1] – September 27, 2007) was an American chemist and professor. He was the inventor of the popular antihistamine diphenhydramine (Benadryl), which he first made during a search for synthetic alternatives to scopolamine.[2]
Born in Arlington Heights, Ohio, he attended the Ohio Mechanics Institute before earning bachelors, masters, and PhD degrees at the University of Cincinnati (UC). Rieveschl returned to the University of Cincinnati where he served as a professor of chemical engineering, and later a professor of materials science.