Amazon workers to vote union in Alabama.

[ch33zw1z]

lol you will be back in less than 2 weeks. You sincerely don't have the willpower to do anything in life other than type it out.

lol, how arrogant are you right now.

 

[skyking]

he's a shitposter. I don't darken Walmart's doors either.

 

[Greenman]

I've decided to put my money where my mouth is and no longer in Amazon's pockets. I really didn't think they would join Walmart's ranks as premier shit employers of the nation.

The problem is that Amazon is so damn good at what they do. Over the last year I've had a lot of stuff delivered to my door within 2 days for less cost than the local supplier. Often those things weren't in stock locally.

 

[Fenixgoon]

The problem is that Amazon is so damn good at what they do. Over the last year I've had a lot of stuff delivered to my door within 2 days for less cost than the local supplier. Often those things weren't in stock locally.

I've dramatically reduced my amazon-ing. Still not completely free but working on it.
The question you need to ask yourself is - do I really need these things in 2 days? Most of the time, my answer is no. Which means I can pay a premium to support a local business.

Ironically, amazon has 2 warehouses in my city (a 1.5M sq ft large-item warehouse was just completed). To a certain extent, I am glad they are here (my small town could use the jerbs), but I also know how tough warehouse work is, and I believe employees should be treated better.

Lots of barely-living-wage jobs are better than nothing, but we as a society, and amazon especially, can do better than that. And we need to push for that.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Lots of barely-living-wage jobs are better than nothing, but we as a society, and amazon especially, can do better than that. And we need to push for that.

"WE WANT $15 MINIMUM WAGE!"

Amazon: "Okay, we will make $15/hr our minimum starting wage for all positions plus benefits.

"WE Want MORE!!!"




You just can't win with these idiots.

 

[VW MAN]

"WE WANT $15 MINIMUM WAGE!"

Amazon: "Okay, we will make $15/hr our minimum starting wage for all positions plus benefits.

"WE Want MORE!!!"




You just can't win with these idiots.

Fuck off clown!

 

[Fenixgoon]

"WE WANT $15 MINIMUM WAGE!"

Amazon: "Okay, we will make $15/hr our minimum starting wage for all positions plus benefits.

"WE Want MORE!!!"




You just can't win with these idiots.

Do you get off to people struggling financially? Seriously you ha e so much disdain for the working poor it's hard to come up with another theory.

 

[MrSquished]

"WE WANT $15 MINIMUM WAGE!"

Amazon: "Okay, we will make $15/hr our minimum starting wage for all positions plus benefits.

"WE Want MORE!!!"




You just can't win with these idiots.

A $15 minimum wage didn't mean that's what any full time job should be and that's it. It's a baseline. It's a bare minimum.And should go above and beyond depending on things like where you live and the job you do. This isn't rocket science. Maybe to conservatives though. This shit is hard.

 

[skyking]

The problem is that Amazon is so damn good at what they do. Over the last year I've had a lot of stuff delivered to my door within 2 days for less cost than the local supplier. Often those things weren't in stock locally.

Damn good at taking 120 a year, then burning a shit-ton of resources getting things to you in two days that you may not need in two days. It is an environmental disaster, this model. The me me me now now now shit has our country consuming resources at the highest rate in the world, per capita.
You go out every day and drive by retailers. No special trip needed, Just a little planning.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Damn good at taking 120 a year, then burning a shit-ton of resources getting things to you in two days that you may not need in two days. It is an environmental disaster, this model. The me me me now now now shit has our country consuming resources at the highest rate in the world, per capita.
You go out every day and drive by retailers. No special trip needed, Just a little planning.

Except it requires putting up with incompetent people.

Stupid people like you in line in front of me that are writing a hand-written check for $7.34.
Incompetent people that can't stock the store shelves appropriately and misplaces them with the wrong tags.
Traffic equivalency to herding cattle around the place - both with vehicles outside of the store and people inside the store.
The product selection is often incredibly pitiful.
Annoying people that bring their full-family of 23 to shop at a hardware store, oblivious to the fact that many people would like to move around them because they have yet to realize they aren't the center of the universe.


The list goes on and on and on and on. eCommerce is the way, and it's going to stay that way. You're trying to revive a dead horse.

The majority of people AREN'T urgent for their items, thats why they choose to order them for delivery instead of picking it up in-store immediately.

 

[skyking]

Oh look it's more me me me. Cry louder fuck face.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Oh look it's more me me me. Cry louder fuck face.

lol ok boomer.

 

[Greenman]

Damn good at taking 120 a year, then burning a shit-ton of resources getting things to you in two days that you may not need in two days. It is an environmental disaster, this model. The me me me now now now shit has our country consuming resources at the highest rate in the world, per capita.
You go out every day and drive by retailers. No special trip needed, Just a little planning.

I don't see how that logic works. Amazon doesn't send out single items. The truck leaves the warehouse loaded, and makes dozens of stops dropping packages. The amount of fuel used per package is tiny. The economy of scale in this has to be large when figured against driving to the store.

 

[Jaskalas]

"WE WANT $15 MINIMUM WAGE!"

Amazon: "Okay, we will make $15/hr our minimum starting wage for all positions plus benefits.

"WE Want MORE!!!"

You just can't win with these idiots.

In order to emulate the lifestyle and the wealth the Baby Boomers enjoyed, workers would need some amount above $20/hr.

 

[Brainonska511]

I don't see how that logic works. Amazon doesn't send out single items. The truck leaves the warehouse loaded, and makes dozens of stops dropping packages. The amount of fuel used per package is tiny. The economy of scale in this has to be large when figured against driving to the store.

Consider that the packaging that the products use to get to their destination generates a lot of waste: puffy air bags that can't be recycled easily, cardboard boxes that may end up sitting at a local recycler because there isn't a large enough market to sell it off...

 

[skyking]

I don't see how that logic works. Amazon doesn't send out single items. The truck leaves the warehouse loaded, and makes dozens of stops dropping packages. The amount of fuel used per package is tiny. The economy of scale in this has to be large when figured against driving to the store.

you, I am talking to you, go out every day. I go out every day. Now you are comparing it to going out to the store. i drive by a full service hardware store and 2 Safeways every day.

 

[Greenman]

Consider that the packaging that the products use to get to their destination generates a lot of waste: puffy air bags that can't be recycled easily, cardboard boxes that may end up sitting at a local recycler because there isn't a large enough market to sell it off...

Packaging is the bane of the modern world.

 

[Greenman]

you, I am talking to you, go out every day. I go out every day. Now you are comparing it to going out to the store. i drive by a full service hardware store and 2 Safeways every day.

That's a different story. I never order anything from amazon if I can get it on my way home, why would anyone do that? If it's thirty miles away through traffic, then amazon gets the sale.
As with pretty much everything in life, we need to use it wisely. For people like my MIL who can't drive, and live several miles from the store, amazon is god send.

 

[MrSquished]

In order to emulate the lifestyle and the wealth the Baby Boomers enjoyed, workers would need some amount above $20/hr.

that's just for the minimum wage to equate, nevermind what other salaries would have to scale to.

 

[skyking]

That's a different story. I never order anything from amazon if I can get it on my way home, why would anyone do that? If it's thirty miles away through traffic, then amazon gets the sale.
As with pretty much everything in life, we need to use it wisely. For people like my MIL who can't drive, and live several miles from the store, amazon is god send.

From my post:
"You go out every day and drive by retailers. No special trip needed, Just a little planning."
that's not a different story. That was my original story that you had a hard time comprehending.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

In order to emulate the lifestyle and the wealth the Baby Boomers enjoyed, workers would need some amount above $20/hr.

See this is where you guys go off the rails. The boomers (not that I'm one to defend them much...) actually had SKILLED labor.

Picking up an item and placing it in a parcel, placing tape on it and putting it on a runway isn't skilled labor. It's literally skill-less labor. Anyone with a pulse that isn't disabled can perform those tasks.

 

[Jaskalas]

ROFL, so now you argue Americans used to deserve food and housing. Now they don't.
And that's an acceptable answer to you?

PS, the skilled labor of a machinist pays nearly the same $/hr today. As it did 30 years ago.

 

[Greenman]

From my post:
"You go out every day and drive by retailers. No special trip needed, Just a little planning."
that's not a different story. That was my original story that you had a hard time comprehending.

Nope, go back up another post. I was on topic all the way.

 

[MrSquished]

See this is where you guys go off the rails. The boomers (not that I'm one to defend them much...) actually had SKILLED labor.

Picking up an item and placing it in a parcel, placing tape on it and putting it on a runway isn't skilled labor. It's literally skill-less labor. Anyone with a pulse that isn't disabled can perform those tasks.

Repetitive factory work is often considered unskilled, boomers used to able to raise a family on that kind of work. Again you have zero clue what you are talking about. Ditto with bagging groceries, cashiers, basic retail jobs, and all that stuff, that shit was still around for boomers. The list is long. The fact is their minimum wage was far higher than it is now. And unskilled jobs then paid far more.

You are literally clueless yet again.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Repetitive factory work is often considered unskilled, boomers used to able to raise a family on that kind of work. Again you have zero clue what you are talking about. Ditto with bagging groceries, cashiers, basic retail jobs, and all that stuff, that shit was still around for boomers. The list is long. The fact is their minimum wage was far higher than it is now. And unskilled jobs then paid far more.

You are literally clueless yet again.

Factory work in the past wasn't placing a parcel into a box. It wasn't an ikea package either where they put a bolt in using an Allen wrench.

It actually required having skill such as welding.

I know this is hard stuff for you to realize