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Amazon workers to vote union in Alabama.

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From what I've read, the union failed to account for the aggressive anti-union tactics Amazon employed during the run-up to the election and in its messaging to workers about what the union could do for them. A message of "stick it to corporation" without clearly defined benefits for the workers is an extremely poor sell, especially when the warehouse was providing higher paying jobs and benefits from Day 0 compared to what many could get in the surrounding area.
 
ch33zw1z said:
Lol.....so trickle down is socialism?
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I'm not siding with either...but there are some that say when you give money to the masses at the lowest level, they spend it and it changes hands many times on the way back to the rich. When you give money to the rich, they sit on it and it only benefits them. Now, that's not entirely true because they can invest it where it may impact a lot of things or revitalize cities...

The point though is that things don't trickle down as far as some would like you to think, but generalizations are never 100% accurate....

In the case of Amazon, I'm going to continue to attempt to buy locally first and only use Amazon when I have better selection or cheaper prices. I really hope we learned from the pandemic that monopolies and online retailers are putting too many eggs in one basket. The advantage of having Walmart in every town is that you have that many warehouses of goods localized.....even better if you can buy from a locally owned store to keep the money circulating locally.
 
dank69 said:
What? No. It is the exact opposite of trickle down. Supply side vs. demand side. How do you function in society with so little knowledge?
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He surrounds himself with like people. Peeps like brandon are fully submerged in the alt-reality bubble.
 
Scarpozzi said:
I'm not siding with either...but there are some that say when you give money to the masses at the lowest level, they spend it and it changes hands many times on the way back to the rich. When you give money to the rich, they sit on it and it only benefits them. Now, that's not entirely true because they can invest it where it may impact a lot of things or revitalize cities...

The point though is that things don't trickle down as far as some would like you to think, but generalizations are never 100% accurate....

In the case of Amazon, I'm going to continue to attempt to buy locally first and only use Amazon when I have better selection or cheaper prices. I really hope we learned from the pandemic that monopolies and online retailers are putting too many eggs in one basket. The advantage of having Walmart in every town is that you have that many warehouses of goods localized.....even better if you can buy from a locally owned store to keep the money circulating locally.
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Sure, but the last 40+ years of trickle down has funneled money directly to people who mainly sit on it.

Also, 20 years ago Walmart was sweeping the country putting mom&pop's, small businesses, etc...out of business. I'm not ready to start singing their praises quite yet. They're a pretty big corporate welfare user.

I agree that buying local is a good idea, and I make an attempt to do just that. But, I do buy quite a bit from Amazon, most of the small businesses in my area were already out of business from walmart or on their way out from Walmart + the internet.
 
ch33zw1z said:
Sure, but the last 40+ years of trickle down has funneled money directly to people who mainly sit on it.

Also, 20 years ago Walmart was sweeping the country putting mom&pop's, small businesses, etc...out of business. I'm not ready to start singing their praises quite yet. They're a pretty big corporate welfare user.

I agree that buying local is a good idea, and I make an attempt to do just that. But, I do buy quite a bit from Amazon, most of the small businesses in my area were already out of business from walmart or on their way out from Walmart + the internet.
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Right...I purposefully don't pick sides when it comes to political stuff because you can't convince people that are locked in their views and politics. I know all about trickle down and tax structures. I also agree with the other side that says you shouldn't tax the working class hard and give money away for free... It's just tough to find middle ground.

I posted previously on here....I was Christmas shopping this year and bought a few Nintendo Switches...I got them both from my local Best Buy instead of Amazon. I initially ordered from Amazon for a December delivery date (in October)....but cancelled my order when I was able to buy from Best Buy in November. I want Best Buy to remain in business and post good numbers so they don't close down like so many of their storefronts have. We already had a lot of stores shut down around here and it's not that big of a town....so every store counts.

I'm not singing Walmart's praises, but simply stating that supply chain is less centralized than Amazon because they actually store goods in their stores.....just like Target and other traditional B&M stores. With Amazon, there's far fewer warehouses involved. I'm also curious if Amazon has mixed pricing based on your IP and regional inventory searches to see if they can rig prices accordingly... (I know I would if I were them)
 
Scarpozzi said:
Right...I purposefully don't pick sides when it comes to political stuff because you can't convince people that are locked in their views and politics. I know all about trickle down and tax structures. I also agree with the other side that says you shouldn't tax the working class hard and give money away for free... It's just tough to find middle ground.

I posted previously on here....I was Christmas shopping this year and bought a few Nintendo Switches...I got them both from my local Best Buy instead of Amazon. I initially ordered from Amazon for a December delivery date (in October)....but cancelled my order when I was able to buy from Best Buy in November. I want Best Buy to remain in business and post good numbers so they don't close down like so many of their storefronts have. We already had a lot of stores shut down around here and it's not that big of a town....so every store counts.

I'm not singing Walmart's praises, but simply stating that supply chain is less centralized than Amazon because they actually store goods in their stores.....just like Target and other traditional B&M stores. With Amazon, there's far fewer warehouses involved. I'm also curious if Amazon has mixed pricing based on your IP and regional inventory searches to see if they can rig prices accordingly... (I know I would if I were them)
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I would imagine that Amazon bases prices off of the area's ecomonic capacity, walmart does this also.

Edit: I understand your hesitancy to "take sides", i support which ever side does the most for americans. Trickle down economics does not. We're told that were worthless and lucky to have a job, meanwhile money is hoarded and the government takes on the burden of supporting Americans who don't get paid enough.
 
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www.businessinsider.com

US labor board to hold hearing on whether to redo Amazon union election based on evidence submitted by union

The NLRB said evidence provided by the Retail, Wholesale and Department Store Union warrants a hearing to determine whether Amazon acted illegally.
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ch33zw1z said:
Sure, but the last 40+ years of trickle down has funneled money directly to people who mainly sit on it.

Also, 20 years ago Walmart was sweeping the country putting mom&pop's, small businesses, etc...out of business. I'm not ready to start singing their praises quite yet. They're a pretty big corporate welfare user.

I agree that buying local is a good idea, and I make an attempt to do just that. But, I do buy quite a bit from Amazon, most of the small businesses in my area were already out of business from walmart or on their way out from Walmart + the internet.
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They went whole hog buying crap from China! I can count with my fingers on both hands, how many times I've reluctantly bought anything from the family of Oligarchs!.
 
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esquared said:
They may just close that warehouse up.
Open up a new one in another state.

Or play hardball like walmart.
www.theglobalist.com

Why It's Impossible To Unionize Walmart - The Globalist

Walmart is the largest private employer in the United States. Why are none of its employees in a union?
www.theglobalist.com www.theglobalist.com
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"If so, the United States and much of Western Europe abruptly became less civilized during the last two decades of the 20th century"

This is problematic af. There is no such thing as less civilized.
 
ch33zw1z said:
Sure, but the last 40+ years of trickle down has funneled money directly to people who mainly sit on it.

Also, 20 years ago Walmart was sweeping the country putting mom&pop's, small businesses, etc...out of business. I'm not ready to start singing their praises quite yet. They're a pretty big corporate welfare user.

I agree that buying local is a good idea, and I make an attempt to do just that. But, I do buy quite a bit from Amazon, most of the small businesses in my area were already out of business from Walmart or on their way out from Walmart + the internet.
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Walmart successfully built the union busting tactics that Amazon is able to use to its advantage now, not one store in the USA is unionized yet for some reason it wasn't pursued further by the NLRB, plus the me-first attitude of most people in America today doesn't help.

www.theglobalist.com

Why It's Impossible To Unionize Walmart - The Globalist

Walmart is the largest private employer in the United States. Why are none of its employees in a union?
www.theglobalist.com www.theglobalist.com
 
They should have tried to unionize in a more pro union state. Maybe one that the current president will take an interest in. Delaware.
 
I've decided to put my money where my mouth is and no longer in Amazon's pockets. I really didn't think they would join Walmart's ranks as premier shit employers of the nation.
 
skyking said:
I've decided to put my money where my mouth is and no longer in Amazon's pockets. I really didn't think they would join Walmart's ranks as premier shit employers of the nation.
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lol you will be back in less than 2 weeks. You sincerely don't have the willpower to do anything in life other than type it out.
 
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