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I live in Canada, which has NO shortage of trees, of wood plup, or of manufacturers of tissue and toilet papers. Same applies to the USA, near as I can tell. Panic buying of these items is just that - blind panic with NO rational reason to fear shortages in the near future.
 
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I live in Canada, which has NO shortage of trees, of wood plup, or of manufacturers of tissue and toilet papers. Same applies to the USA, near as I can tell. Panic buying of these items is just that - blind panic with NO rational reason to fear shortages in the near future.
I think the fear in general is this virus starts to get way out of hand and the public is told to stay home and hunker down. Interestingly, TP went 1st ahead of food items but today at our local Publix it was a mad house, most stuff was still available, (minus TP, bleach, hand sanitizer) but it took a lot longer to check out, at leas the shelves were not barren.
 

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No, alcohol won't go bad, everything has to have a "best buy" date on it nowadays, just be careful, it's pretty flammable. You could put it in a fine mister bottle and just use it like that. We don't want a flaming red Squirrel running around!.

That's kinda what I figured. I don't really use the stuff often but it's good to have around. Technically this alcohol might be worth something given it's aged. :p
 

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Went to Sprouts today, and the shelves were looking thin. They had toilet paper, but not much. I had intended on getting two rolls cause their 500 sheets instead of the 1k sheet rolls I usually get, but there were only two rolls on the shelf. I purposely left one behind to not be an imbecilic fuckhole like ~80% of the rest of the world.
 

BUTCH1

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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/14/t...n-sellers.html

Guy drives 1700 miles across states to hoard sanitizer, wipes, and masks at the onset and sells them for a huge mark-up on Amazon. Amazon (and Ebay) shuts him and others down soon after and now he's left holding his ballsack.

F U, A hole.
Yea, a thread about this epic dick-wad was started last night, then he tries to say he's doing a "public service" by "redistributing" product where it's needed. If I saw this asshole in person I'd like to gut-punch him so hard he's down for an hour.
 

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Yea, a thread about this epic dick-wad was started last night, then he tries to say he's doing a "public service" by "redistributing" product where it's needed. If I saw this asshole in person I'd like to gut-punch him so hard he's down for an hour.

I love the pathetic faux outage, what a truly epic display of self-righteous, "Mommy!! look how tough I am!!" bullshit.

We live in a capitalist society and we're all completely aware of the laws of supply and demand. Even in the case of necessities like oil and energy, or ESPECIALLY in the case of necessities like oil and energy, the price constantly ratchets up and down depending on the demand for a specific product or service. Nobody bats an eye if the price of heating oil goes up during the winter or gas prices spike before Labor Day when demand is highest, but some guy gets an idea to make a little cash off hand sanitizer and he's public enemy number one. WTF is wrong with you?

Demand is high, supplies are short and prices rise accordingly. Whether you're piping gas from Alaska to NYC, trucking rice from the fields to the cities or finding sanitizer in backwoods areas where its not needed and taking it into an area where it can be sold at a premium, that's how business operates. Astonishing that some people are too stupid to understand that.
 

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I love the pathetic faux outage, what a truly epic display of self-righteous, "Mommy!! look how tough I am!!" bullshit.

We live in a capitalist society and we're all completely aware of the laws of supply and demand. Even in the case of necessities like oil and energy, or ESPECIALLY in the case of necessities like oil and energy, the price constantly ratchets up and down depending on the demand for a specific product or service. Nobody bats an eye if the price of heating oil goes up during the winter or gas prices spike before Labor Day when demand is highest, but some guy gets an idea to make a little cash off hand sanitizer and he's public enemy number one. WTF is wrong with you?

The guy took it upon himself to purposely screw people around him - his neighbors, his friends, because he cleared store shelves. In the name of selfishness - you can use the word capitalism, but more appropriately, it is selfishness and greed in a time of crisis for many. The products he's hoarding for profit help to prevent further outbreaks of a current global pandemic. That's not sensationalizing anything, it is the plain truth. And you're asking WTF is wrong with us?

It wasn't "backwoods areas where it's not needed". He went across state lines buying everything he could. He is not a "business" running for-profit and has overhead to make up for. This was plain opportunistic greed. The fact that you support this is telling. There is no faux outrage here, I genuinely want to dick-punch that guy. I thank the article for posting a picture of him so we can put a face with this.
 
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The guy took it upon himself to purposely screw people around him - his neighbors, his friends, because he cleared store shelves. In the name of selfishness - you can use the word capitalism, but more appropriately, it is selfishness and greed in a time of crisis for many. The products he's hoarding for profit help to prevent further outbreaks of a current global pandemic. That's not sensationalizing anything, it is the plain truth. And you're asking WTF is wrong with us?

It wasn't "backwoods areas where it's not needed". He went across state lines buying everything he could. He is not a "business" running for-profit and has overhead to make up for. This was plain opportunistic greed. The fact that you support this is telling. There is no faux outrage here, I genuinely want to dick-punch that guy. I thank the article for posting a picture of him so we can put a face with this.
 
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I love the pathetic faux outage, what a truly epic display of self-righteous, "Mommy!! look how tough I am!!" bullshit.

We live in a capitalist society and we're all completely aware of the laws of supply and demand. Even in the case of necessities like oil and energy, or ESPECIALLY in the case of necessities like oil and energy, the price constantly ratchets up and down depending on the demand for a specific product or service. Nobody bats an eye if the price of heating oil goes up during the winter or gas prices spike before Labor Day when demand is highest, but some guy gets an idea to make a little cash off hand sanitizer and he's public enemy number one. WTF is wrong with you?

Demand is high, supplies are short and prices rise accordingly. Whether you're piping gas from Alaska to NYC, trucking rice from the fields to the cities or finding sanitizer in backwoods areas where its not needed and taking it into an area where it can be sold at a premium, that's how business operates. Astonishing that some people are too stupid to understand that.
1st of all the "backwoods" Dollar General's can move needed product to another store and the price does not increase five-fold. 2nd is this is not a unique collector item or the latest fad toy or electronic device. If this dude bought the latest I-phone and sold them on Ebay for an insane profit I would have zero issue with his actions, the fact that he was trying to cash in on fear and desperation makes him an utter fucking scumbag, how you cannot differentiate between the two is unexplained to me.
 

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The guy took it upon himself to purposely screw people around him - his neighbors, his friends, because he cleared store shelves. In the name of selfishness - you can use the word capitalism, but more appropriately, it is selfishness and greed in a time of crisis for many. The products he's hoarding for profit help to prevent further outbreaks of a current global pandemic. That's not sensationalizing anything, it is the plain truth. And you're asking WTF is wrong with us?

It wasn't "backwoods areas where it's not needed". He went across state lines buying everything he could. He is not a "business" running for-profit and has overhead to make up for. This was plain opportunistic greed. The fact that you support this is telling. There is no faux outrage here, I genuinely want to dick-punch that guy. I thank the article for posting a picture of him so we can put a face with this.

How is taking things from areas where people are not buying it to areas where people want it screwing anyone? Hand sanitizers and masks are not items necessary for survival and selling things to paranoid people is not illegal. Hell, it's the backbone of religion and insurance.

The guy did nothing illegal or even a tiny bit immoral. He sold an item at a fair market price to people who were willing, even eager, to pay it. Christ, you snowflakes are in such a mad rush to get triggered that it's fucking hilarious. EVERY ITEM EVERY DAY is subject to market forces, how is it possible that you have not noticed before now that when demand goes up and supply goes down then the prices adjust to reflect what the item is now worth? What it sold for yesterday is meaningless. THE FAIR VALUE of a commodity is what people are willing to pay RIGHT NOW. He found willing buyers and is serving a market. People who wanted hand sanitizer and couldn't get it were given an opportunity to buy a legally sold item and he's the bad guy? Holy fuck dude, do you even read the drivel you spew forth?
 
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1st of all the "backwoods" Dollar General's can move needed product to another store and the price does not increase five-fold. 2nd is this is not a unique collector item or the latest fad toy or electronic device. If this dude bought the latest I-phone and sold them on Ebay for an insane profit I would have zero issue with his actions, the fact that he was trying to cash in on fear and desperation makes him an utter fucking scumbag, how you cannot differentiate between the two is unexplained to me.

You're an idiot. The prices at Dollar General most assuredly do fluctuate due to supply and demand. And so do the prices at Wal-Mart, Amazon, the gas station down the street and parking around a sports arena. In a market economy the value of an item is what people are willing to pay. If people are willing to pay five times what Dollar General USED TO sell hand sanitizer for then THAT is now the fair market price of hand sanitizer. This your first day on this planet?
 

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How is taking things from areas where people are not buying it to areas where people want it screwing anyone? Hand sanitizers and masks are not items necessary for survival and selling things to paranoid people is not illegal. Hell, it's the backbone of religion and insurance.

The guy did nothing illegal or even a tiny bit immoral. He sold an item at a fair market price to people who were willing, even eager, to pay it. Christ, you snowflakes are in such a mad rush to get triggered that it's fucking hilarious.
So if a person showed up at a grocer with a reefer semi and 20 people and bought every speck of food then sold it at 5X the normal price in a parking lot that would be OK to you, "fair market price" right?. Masks offer very little benefit, sanitizer offers a BIG benefit in peoples quest to contain this virus.
 

BUTCH1

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You're an idiot. The prices at Dollar General most assuredly do fluctuate due to supply and demand. And so do the prices at Wal-Mart, Amazon, the gas station down the street and parking around a sports arena. In a market economy the value of an item is what people are willing to pay. If people are willing to pay five times what Dollar General USED TO sell hand sanitizer for then THAT is now the fair market price of hand sanitizer. This your first day on this planet?
I shop at a Dollar General close to me, they D I D N O T increase the price of sanitizer FIVE FOLD in the last 2 weeks, his "fair market value" is at the cost of everyone else getting it at NORMAL market value, AGAIN this is not a "fad" purchase but a desperatly needed item now you fucking bone-head.
 
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You're an idiot. The prices at Dollar General most assuredly do fluctuate due to supply and demand. And so do the prices at Wal-Mart, Amazon, the gas station down the street and parking around a sports arena. In a market economy the value of an item is what people are willing to pay. If people are willing to pay five times what Dollar General USED TO sell hand sanitizer for then THAT is now the fair market price of hand sanitizer. This your first day on this planet?

People are not "willing" to pay when a price goes up. They have no choice but to pay it when it comes to essential items like gas, food, utility bills etc. You have to get to work, you have to eat and you need to heat your home etc.
 
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How is taking things from areas where people are not buying it to areas where people want it screwing anyone? Hand sanitizers and masks are not items necessary for survival and selling things to paranoid people is not illegal. Hell, it's the backbone of religion and insurance.

The guy did nothing illegal or even a tiny bit immoral. He sold an item at a fair market price to people who were willing, even eager, to pay it. Christ, you snowflakes are in such a mad rush to get triggered that it's fucking hilarious. EVERY ITEM EVERY DAY is subject to market forces, how is it possible that you have not noticed before now that when demand goes up and supply goes down then the prices adjust to reflect what the item is now worth? What it sold for yesterday is meaningless. THE FAIR VALUE of a commodity is what people are willing to pay RIGHT NOW. He found willing buyers and is serving a market. People who wanted hand sanitizer and couldn't get it were given an opportunity to buy a legally sold item and he's the bad guy? Holy fuck dude, do you even read the drivel you spew forth?


Most tone-deaf post in the entire forum.
 

rh71

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How is taking things from areas where people are not buying it to areas where people want it screwing anyone? Hand sanitizers and masks are not items necessary for survival and selling things to paranoid people is not illegal. Hell, it's the backbone of religion and insurance.

The guy did nothing illegal or even a tiny bit immoral. He sold an item at a fair market price to people who were willing, even eager, to pay it. Christ, you snowflakes are in such a mad rush to get triggered that it's fucking hilarious. EVERY ITEM EVERY DAY is subject to market forces, how is it possible that you have not noticed before now that when demand goes up and supply goes down then the prices adjust to reflect what the item is now worth? What it sold for yesterday is meaningless. THE FAIR VALUE of a commodity is what people are willing to pay RIGHT NOW. He found willing buyers and is serving a market. People who wanted hand sanitizer and couldn't get it were given an opportunity to buy a legally sold item and he's the bad guy? Holy fuck dude, do you even read the drivel you spew forth?
The first half of your first sentence isn't even true. Then you talk about paranoia as if it's not happening. I'm not even going to bother... you've shown your colors and that's good enough for me.
 
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How is taking things from areas where people are not buying it to areas where people want it screwing anyone? Hand sanitizers and masks are not items necessary for survival and selling things to paranoid people is not illegal. Hell, it's the backbone of religion and insurance.

The guy did nothing illegal or even a tiny bit immoral. He sold an item at a fair market price to people who were willing, even eager, to pay it. Christ, you snowflakes are in such a mad rush to get triggered that it's fucking hilarious. EVERY ITEM EVERY DAY is subject to market forces, how is it possible that you have not noticed before now that when demand goes up and supply goes down then the prices adjust to reflect what the item is now worth? What it sold for yesterday is meaningless. THE FAIR VALUE of a commodity is what people are willing to pay RIGHT NOW. He found willing buyers and is serving a market. People who wanted hand sanitizer and couldn't get it were given an opportunity to buy a legally sold item and he's the bad guy? Holy fuck dude, do you even read the drivel you spew forth?

He knew they would be flying off the shelves, so he took them before others would. This is pretty similar to the scalpers on the outlet sites for refurbished laptops who use bots/macros to snatch up all the good deals to resell on ebay. It benefits nobody but them.
 

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Went to the grocery store today for snacks as I'll be on night shifts, it's eerie seeing so many empty shelves, it's not like super bad here other than TP, but still never seen this many empty or low stock shelves at a store here before. We don't get hurricanes or any real storms here so there is never that feeling of impeding disaster. I think that's what has people going crazy they just don't know how to deal with it.

In general I'm doing pretty good as far as stock goes so not too worried either way, but to stretch it out I've been getting some perishable goods once in a while instead of touching my non perishables. Produce etc is fully stocked and probably won't really be an issue.

I'm a bit worried about the TP situation though, I don't know how long people are going to be hoarding it for, I just hope there will be some by the time I actually need it. I'm just glad the last time I bought some, way before all of this, I ended up buying two packages. I always try to be decently stocked up on that anyway since I know I'll use it and it's not like it goes bad. Worked on in my favour.
 

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I'm a bit worried about the TP situation though, I don't know how long people are going to be hoarding it for, I just hope there will be some by the time I actually need it. I'm just glad the last time I bought some, way before all of this, I ended up buying two packages. I always try to be decently stocked up on that anyway since I know I'll use it and it's not like it goes bad. Worked on in my favour.

It'll be like in videogames... everybody will continue to hoard toilet paper, but not actually use any of it, until the virus is finally over and they have 5,000 rolls of unused toilet paper just sitting in their basement.
 

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You're an idiot. The prices at Dollar General most assuredly do fluctuate due to supply and demand. And so do the prices at Wal-Mart, Amazon, the gas station down the street and parking around a sports arena. In a market economy the value of an item is what people are willing to pay. If people are willing to pay five times what Dollar General USED TO sell hand sanitizer for then THAT is now the fair market price of hand sanitizer. This your first day on this planet?
So how much are you in the hole now that Amazon and eBay suspended your accounts for price gouging?