Amanda Knox Conviction Overturned, Set Free

[Patranus]

The bra clasp isn't the only thing linking her to the murder.

Here is a question.

If you were to walk into any female college dorm and check on students belongings for their roommates DNA what percentage of those belongings would contain the roommates DNA.

I would bet it would be quite high.

 

[woolfe9999]

See this is the problem. There may have been trace dna on the bra clasp but it doesn't mean anything nor does it prove she helped kill the girl. Because the bra clasp was found almost 7 weeks after the murder. The integrity of the crime scene was compromised from day one as the investigators failed to to take adequate measures to prevent contamination of evidence or preserve the crime scene. The crime scene investigation was conducted very poorly. It all comes down to shoddy police work.

Yes that is the other side of the argument. I don't understand the DNA science well enough. As a layperson, all I can say is that I don't understand how you get a false positive when measuring for something like a DNA sequence unless there is cross-contamination, e.g. that the police themselves accidentally or intentionally put one person's blood onto an object. In this case, they would have to have gotten Knox's BF's blood from somewhere in his apartment and brought it over to the crime scene, and placed it on the bra clasp. This came up in the OJ case. To me, it doesn't sound like something likely to happen unless it is done intentionally.

- wolf

 

[juiio]

Here is a question.

If you were to walk into any female college dorm and check on students belongings for their roommates DNA what percentage of those belongings would contain the roommates DNA.

I would bet it would be quite high.

I'm guessing that it is really low for something like a bra clasp.

Either way it isn't relevant, though, because it was Sollecito's DNA on the clasp, not Knox's.

 

[woolfe9999]

I'm guessing that it is really low for something like a bra clasp.

Either way it isn't relevant, though, because it was Sollecito's DNA on the clasp, not Knox's.

Except it is relevant to Knox because, after a series of lies, she settled on the story that she was with Sollecito all night at his apartment and that he never left. If the bra clasp DNA test is valid, that makes her an accomplice after the fact, at a minimum.

 

[juiio]

Except it is relevant to Knox because, after a series of lies, she settled on the story that she was with Sollecito all night at his apartment and that he never left. If the bra clasp DNA test is valid, that makes her an accomplice after the fact, at a minimum.

I meant that his question about her DNA being transferred to Merideth's things wasn't relevant, since it wasn't her DNA on the clasp. Obviously the bra clasp is tied to the case against her.

 

[randomrogue]

They found it 47 days later
It had the DNA of 4 other people on it beyond her boyfriend
It was seen in several different locations before it was picked up.

I don't see how this is even "evidence"

 

[juiio]

They found it 47 days later
It had the DNA of 4 other people on it beyond her boyfriend
It was seen in several different locations before it was picked up.

I don't see how this is even "evidence"

Where did you get there was DNA of four other people?

How it is evidence is explained well in the Massei report. Read pages 266-276.

http://www.beforeyoutakethatpill.com/2011/3/Massei_Report.pdf

Even if you throw it out, there is still strong evidence though.

 

[fenrir]

Yes that is the other side of the argument. I don't understand the DNA science well enough. As a layperson, all I can say is that I don't understand how you get a false positive when measuring for something like a DNA sequence unless there is cross-contamination, e.g. that the police themselves accidentally or intentionally put one person's blood onto an object. In this case, they would have to have gotten Knox's BF's blood from somewhere in his apartment and brought it over to the crime scene, and placed it on the bra clasp. This came up in the OJ case. To me, it doesn't sound like something likely to happen unless it is done intentionally.

- wolf

I can see where you are having a problem with DNA. DNA evidence does not mean 'blood'. Knox's boyfriends blood was not found on the clasp.

 

[woolfe9999]

I can see where you are having a problem with DNA. DNA evidence does not mean 'blood'. Knox's boyfriends blood was not found on the clasp.

No, I understand that DNA=/blood. I may be mistaken about what they found on the bra clasp. I thought it was trace blood from which they were able to do a DNA test. However, it's been awhile since I read about this case in any detail.

 

[Dude111]

All i can say is: I HOPE SHE REALLY DIDNT DO THIS NOW THAT SHE GOT OFF!!