Amanda Knox Conviction Overturned, Set Free

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Genx87

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Reading about this there doesnt appear to be a whole lot of actual evidence. The whole sexual fantasy thing just seemed weird from the prosecution. And a lot of the DNA evidence was evidence one would find anywhere in any house. The knife was a common knife used by all the roomates ect.

Seemed very weak imo and I personally believe she was convicted in part because her nationality.
 

ProfJohn

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The only reason the Davis story got any press at all was because of questions about his guilt. How many other black people on death row, cop killers or not, come and go and we hear nothing about them?
I don't know.

But the media seems to have a thing about playing up the black cop killer who claims he is innocent.

I think it fits the stereo type of black men not getting treated fairly by the police and all that.

8 witness to the murder in the Davis case, 4 in the Philly case and yet people act like these guys were railroaded by a corrupt 1960s era Mississippi justice system.
 

momeNt

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This thread is missing a poll.

Option A - Sex Tape
Option B - Abuse fertility drugs to get on TLC show.
 

yours truly

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If she was innocent, why did she constantly lie? She has to pay a fine to a guy she wrongly accused of murder, who was arrested, thrown in jail and lost his business because of her.

If you're innocent, you'd tell the truth and not try covering your tracks and point the finger at someone else.

I've been involved in rape and murder cases as a witness, and I'd never think about making up stories.

If she is guilty, it'll be a travesty. No doubt she'll become rich from all the book deal etc.
 

JS80

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If she was innocent, why did she constantly lie? She has to pay a fine to a guy she wrongly accused of murder, who was arrested, thrown in jail and lost his business because of her.

If you're innocent, you'd tell the truth and not try covering your tracks and point the finger at someone else.

I've been involved in rape and murder cases as a witness, and I'd never think about making up stories.

If she is guilty, it'll be a travesty. No doubt she'll become rich from all the book deal etc.

50 hours of harsh Italian interrogation with multiple interrogators...yea not everyone has the mental strength of a Zen monk. Or M0RPH.
 

yours truly

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50 hours of harsh Italian interrogation with multiple interrogators...yea not everyone has the mental strength of a Zen monk. Or M0RPH.

Water off a duck's back to here it seems. She was recorded doing cartwheels in the interrogations room. (edit: at the police station)

fwiw, back in 2004 I was wrongly accused of raping a woman. A case of mistaken identity. Trust me I wasn't laughing and joking and doing hand stands and cartwheels at the police station. My whole life collapsed and I was mortified. I doubt anyone who is innocent would take it as a joke.

This was supposedly her best friend who had been murdered too.

i was interrogated too. I just told the police the truth and guess what.. they later apologised. Still pisses me off thinking about it..
 
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JS80

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Water off a duck's back to here it seems. She was recorded doing cartwheels in the interrogations room. (edit: at the police station)

When? Hour 1? Hour 10? Hour 49? Was it to stretch out? Regardless, what does it prove? Does doing cartwheels = holding down your roommate with your bf while some African dude rapes her then slits her throat all while high on weed?
 

yours truly

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When? Hour 1? Hour 10? Hour 49? Was it to stretch out? Regardless, what does it prove? Does doing cartwheels = holding down your roommate with your bf while some African dude rapes her then slits her throat all while high on weed?

What it proves is she lied, constantly. Her accusations were wasting police time at the very least. Why accuse an innocent man? They should sling her arse back into jail for perverting the court of justice.

Doesn't sound very innocent to me.

I'll draw my own conclusions, you draw yours. I guess we'll never know.
 
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JS80

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What it proves is she lied, constantly. Her accusations were wasting police time at the very least. Why accuse an innocent man?

Doesn't sound very innocent to me.

I'll draw my own conclusions, you draw yours. I guess we'll never know.

She did not lie constantly. The Italian police claim multiple stories while interrogated (presumably under duress), but it was one story after she was released and they stuck to it.

Did you happen to overlook the fact that they convicted the transient Rudy Guede, who's DNA was found inside Kercher? Yet they are also trying to pin it on Knox+bf as part of some "drug fueled sex orgy satanic ritual"?
 

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She did not lie constantly. The Italian police claim multiple stories while interrogated (presumably under duress), but it was one story after she was released and they stuck to it.

Did you happen to overlook the fact that they convicted the transient Rudy Guede, who's DNA was found inside Kercher? Yet they are also trying to pin it on Knox+bf as part of some "drug fueled sex orgy satanic ritual"?

So if they secured a conviction why did they go after Knox and her boyfriend? Why did the killer clean up after himself and left their apartment spotless?
 
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yours truly

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She did not lie constantly. The Italian police claim multiple stories while interrogated (presumably under duress)

This is a lie too. She told the court the police had beaten her up, then later retracted that statement.
 

JS80

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So if they secured a conviction why did they go after Knox and her boyfriend? Why did the killer clean up after himself and made their apartment spotless?

You assume prosecutors have no other ambitions than just justice? As for your second question I have no idea what you're talking about.
 

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You assume prosecutors have no other ambitions than just justice? As for your second question I have no idea what you're talking about.

When the police checked the apartment, they said it had been cleaned up. By who, the girl's killer?!

Italian incompetence has got Knox out of jail.
 

JS80

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When the police checked the apartment, they said it had been cleaned up. By who, the girl's killer?!

Italian incompetence has got Knox out of jail.

So you are saying that Knox was able to just clean her own DNA from Kercher's room and left only Guede's? That's fucking incredible. She must have watched a lot of CSI.
 

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So you are saying that Knox was able to just clean her own DNA from Kercher's room and left only Guede's? That's fucking incredible. She must have watched a lot of CSI.

She lived with the girl for some time. You're telling me there would be none of her own DNA in their apartment?

Yes if she wiped all traces of her existence there, it's unbelievable.
 
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JS80

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She lived with the girl for some time. You're telling me there would none of her own DNA in their apartment?

Yes if she wiped all traces of her existence there, it's unbelievable.

You have some misinformation or your reading comp/analysis skills are messed up.
 

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You have some misinformation or your reading comp/analysis skills are messed up.

OK? care to elaborate?

If I'm honest I haven't watched every second of the news so I'm only going on what I know/remember.

What I do remember is Knox's DNA was found on the knife that slit the girl's throat. Was she using it previously? Or maybe she missed an episode of CSI..
 
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JS80

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OK? care to elaborate?

If I'm honest I haven't watched every second of the news so I'm only going on what I know/remember.

What I do remember is Knox's DNA was found on the knife that slit the girl's throat. Was she using it previously? Or maybe she missed an episode of CSI..

Minuscule amount of Knox's DNA was found on a kitchen knife handle. Surely it's not ridiculous to find such. And there was no Kercher DNA on said kitchen knife's blade. Pretty ridiculous to claim it's the murder weapon when there is no victim DNA on the thing. Aside from that, there are doubts that it was the knife used in the murder.

Speaking of knives, Rudy Guede was found with a 16 inch knife in his backpack.
 

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Speaking of knives, Rudy Guede was found with a 16 inch knife in his backpack.

Strange he'd have the murder weapon still on him. You'd think he'd have thrown or hid it somewhere..
 
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sygyzy

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I am not a lawyer and I wasn't there but I don't believe for a second that she's innocent. I think she knew about the murders ... either masterminded or participated in them or in the very least didn't stop it.
 

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Young, uneducated person with no solid family background...not that surprising.

I don't buy it.

I'm not getting into an argument with you. I heard the story and wanted to say what I felt.

It's just my gut instinct, I think she knows something or was part of it. I don't think she's innocent. The same way everyone knew OJ Simpson was guilty. You just know, you know.

I'd be a great lawyer... "LOOK AT HER EYES! SHE'S GUILTY!"
 

JS80

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I am not a lawyer and I wasn't there but I don't believe for a second that she's innocent. I think she knew about the murders ... either masterminded or participated in them or in the very least didn't stop it.

You also obviously didn't follow the case nor analyzed the evidence at all.