How does it impact you? Why do you care what individuals do with their money?
I don't WHAT they do with their money, I just care how much they make because it could be used to make our lives better instead of feed their insatiable greed.
How does it impact you? Why do you care what individuals do with their money?
You're right. It sure would be nice if I could be unemployed and lazy and still get housing, food and medical care. Why would anyone work?Originally posted by: bthorny
I believe that everyone is entilted to Housing, Food, and Medical care. If we are civilized and advanced I think we should be able to provide that.
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Originally posted by: Ynog
The comment about no one over 300,000 is definately sounds like a socialist comment.
Problem with athletes is if you think about it, if they don't make the money,
the owner makes it. The money is going to someone. When you get down
to it, its just a reverse of what it used to be, with players being screwed
over and owners making large profits. Now the players make alot more
money, and some owners are losing money.
You wish you could have a nice median, where the owner makes good money,
the player makes money, and the fan is treated well. That will never happen
though, probably one of the downsides of unions.
Thank you for understanding the whole point of my post. Instead of an athlete or owner making billions, that money could be used to lower the price of tickets (free viewing?) food, etc.
Here's an example with your arbitrary $300k:Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Do you make $300,000 a year? how long have you been making this much? What makes you think rich people have problems??!? Maybe they have kids and want to make sure they will always be comfortable and not have to worry about money. Seriously.... I have to conclude that you have not tasted enough of the real world to understand why you are so wrong. This is not a utopia. We are not robots. Everyone is motivated by rewards. Whether the rewards are monetary or emotional, its all the same.
If $300,000 / year is not enough to help your children develop into contributing citizens of society, then that is a problem. If you want to make endless amounts of money so your offspring can shop all day or do whatever (Paris Hilton) that is a detriment to society.
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
How does it impact you? Why do you care what individuals do with their money?
I don't WHAT they do with their money, I just care how much they make because it could be used to make our lives better instead of feed their insatiable greed.
Originally posted by: bthorny
One day the 95% of this country that has very little money will smarten up and tell the 5% that own a grossely disproportionate amount of the goods "hey you said it life's not fair". Now it's your turn to pay for the money you have made off the backs of the under paid in this society. I'll give the "Have's" this, they have done a really good job of convincing the "have not's" in this country that they are worthless and don't deserve the necessities and that's the american way. Change will come it may be far off but, it will come.
Originally posted by: Jzero
You're right. It sure would be nice if I could be unemployed and lazy and still get housing, food and medical care. Why would anyone work?Originally posted by: bthorny
I believe that everyone is entilted to Housing, Food, and Medical care. If we are civilized and advanced I think we should be able to provide that.
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Originally posted by: Mo0o
I think the system we have now is pretty good. We put a value on the skills of each person and rightfully so. A person who has spent 25 years getting schooling to become a doctor should not have the same salary as someone who spent 2 days training to become a janitor.
You mention intrinsic motivation to become a doctor or whatever. Granted having such motivations is always a plus, I dont think it is necessary. Sometimes external motivators, such as money and wealth, work just as well in producing competent doctors that tend to our needs. You say that buying shiny things doesn't make you happy. But I would say you will be a lot sadder if every material possession you own now was suddenly taken away.
Either way, I though having fixed salaries etc was considered Communism instead of Socialism.
I'm not saying that at all. I'm saying pay janitors $20,000 / year and pay doctors $300,000. Just don't pay entertainers and stuff $69 million for a movie when they much money could be used to help make the U.S. a better country.
Exactly... to bring it closer to home, if there are no rich people that put money into your bank, they are not going to give you a loan.Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
How does it impact you? Why do you care what individuals do with their money?
I don't WHAT they do with their money, I just care how much they make because it could be used to make our lives better instead of feed their insatiable greed.
What you forget is that much of that "extra" money is invested back into the market.
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
Originally posted by: Jzero
You're right. It sure would be nice if I could be unemployed and lazy and still get housing, food and medical care. Why would anyone work?Originally posted by: bthorny
I believe that everyone is entilted to Housing, Food, and Medical care. If we are civilized and advanced I think we should be able to provide that.
To get better housing? Remember, you can make between $0 per year, and $300,000 per year.
If people were unwilling to pay prices as they are now the prices would drop. Simple supply and demand.
The fact that there's even a market for scalping means that the tickets are underpriced from the box office.
Everyone could benefit from a few economics classes - I'd say your problem is lack of knowledge, not socialism.
Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
If people were unwilling to pay prices as they are now the prices would drop. Simple supply and demand.
The fact that there's even a market for scalping means that the tickets are underpriced from the box office.
Everyone could benefit from a few economics classes - I'd say your problem is lack of knowledge, not socialism.
Viper GTS
I don't need a class, I understand what captialism is, I'm just presenting the idea the world would be a better place if people weren't making billions of dollars while that money could be going into making improvements.
I'm not saying take more money away from the 95% of people who make less than a million dollars a year, I'm saying "stick it to the rich".
Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
If people were unwilling to pay prices as they are now the prices would drop. Simple supply and demand.
The fact that there's even a market for scalping means that the tickets are underpriced from the box office.
Everyone could benefit from a few economics classes - I'd say your problem is lack of knowledge, not socialism.
Viper GTS
I don't need a class, I understand what captialism is, I'm just presenting the idea the world would be a better place if people weren't making billions of dollars while that money could be going into making improvements.
I'm not saying take more money away from the 95% of people who make less than a million dollars a year, I'm saying "stick it to the rich".
What is the huge difference between those who make $999,999 a year and those who make $1,000,001 a year?Originally posted by: Redhotjrm
If people were unwilling to pay prices as they are now the prices would drop. Simple supply and demand.
The fact that there's even a market for scalping means that the tickets are underpriced from the box office.
Everyone could benefit from a few economics classes - I'd say your problem is lack of knowledge, not socialism.
Viper GTS
I don't need a class, I understand what captialism is, I'm just presenting the idea the world would be a better place if people weren't making billions of dollars while that money could be going into making improvements.
I'm not saying take more money away from the 95% of people who make less than a million dollars a year, I'm saying "stick it to the rich".
Originally posted by: CPA
Redhotjrm, and the rest of you communists (you're not a socialist, you're a communist),
I have one wish for you:
I wish that one day you decide to start a business of your own. And even after dealing with angry customers, uncaring vendors, disgruntled employees, 80-120 hour work weeks (you're the boss, no vacation for you) and the long arm of the government, you become very successful. So successful, in fact, that you make well more than 300k in residual income. Because then, I would like to see your reaction when the government steps in and says "Mr. Redhot give me EVERYTHING you made greater than $300K." You will either be very pissed off or you will start cooking the books. Guaranteed.
Originally posted by: CPA
Redhotjrm, and the rest of you communists (you're not a socialist, you're a communist),
I have one wish for you:
I wish that one day you decide to start a business of your own. And even after dealing with angry customers, uncaring vendors, disgruntled employees, 80-120 hour work weeks (you're the boss, no vacation for you) and the long arm of the government, you become very successful. So successful, in fact, that you make well more than 300k in residual income. Because then, I would like to see your reaction when the government steps in and says "Mr. Redhot give me EVERYTHING you made greater than $300K." You will either be very pissed off or you will start cooking the books. Guaranteed.