Am I a dick for not wanting to hang out with someone who had Gastric bypass?

[KeithTalent]

Wow, how do you all know people who have done this? I thought this was just a TV and celebrity thing. I have never met anyone who has done this. Seems pretty freaking drastic.

KT

 

[Jeff7]

Bodily modification? Hell, I'd have a USB 3.0 port wired into my brain if it meant I could control a computer faster.
That's kind of similar, right?

I agree with the OP, it's insane. I've known two people who've had it done. One is now dead because of it, the other now suffers from pain and stomach problems.

A study from 2005 to 2006 revealed that 15% of patients experience complications as a result of gastric bypass, and 0.5% of patients died within six months of surgery due to complications.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastric_bypass_surgery

Hm....sounds a little risky.

I bet a skull-mounted USB port would be easier though. :sneaky:

 

[Jodell88]

I agree with the OP, it's insane. I've known two people who've had it done. One is now dead because of it, the other now suffers from pain and stomach problems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gastric_bypass_surgery

Hold up, a surgical procedure that has side effects?!

 

[lxskllr]

Hold up, a surgical procedure that has side effects?!

I think the point is it's a surgical procedure that's used as shortcut, when discipline would work just as well. It isn't removing a cancerous tumor or anything.

 

[Paladin3]

Op should date who he wants to, and maybe a more health conscious woman would be a better match for him. But there is a big difference between not wanting to date the girl and hating on her because of how she chose to loose weight.

Being even morbidly obese isn't reason enough to show another human being the kind of hate and scorn on display in this thread. It's just not something a kind person would do.

And lack of kindness is a far better reason to not date a person.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I know someone who had it done and the results were amazing. As much as my train of thought is always "well just have more will power" I think it all falls down to the fact that when your stomac reaches the size of a kid's swimming pool, you're just always hungry because it takes more to fill it. So the Gastric bypass will make it so you eat a very tiny meal and you are already full.

Then again, don't they also make pills that make you feel full? I can't see why those would not work. Of course you still have to help yourself by eating decent foods too.

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Answer to question: Yes.

Getting that surgery makes me cringe a bit, what with all the butchering going on, but she is the one the one getting it, not me. If she can deal with the scariness, that's on her.

Whether or not its "natural", who gives a shit. To hell with nature. If it works, its not hurting anyone, and she's fine with it, then go for it.

 

[BladeVenom]

I think the point is it's a surgical procedure that's used as shortcut, when discipline would work just as well. It isn't removing a cancerous tumor or anything.

It's also the risk. 1 in 200 mortality rate is high risk. Compare that to an appendectomy which is 1 in 500,000 mortality rate.

It's a case of the cure is worse than the disease.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You are completely ignorant of physiology. Oh, and a dick too.

 

[nehalem256]

It's also the risk. 1 in 200 mortality rate is high risk. Compare that to an appendectomy which is 1 in 500,000 mortality rate.

It's a case of the cure is worse than the disease.

Well to be fair most appendectomies probably aren't performed on people weighing 400 pounds.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

It's also the risk. 1 in 200 mortality rate is high risk. Compare that to an appendectomy which is 1 in 500,000 mortality rate.

It's a case of the cure is worse than the disease.

It is dangerous but he is arguing the medical equivalent of the world being flat. We have long known that morbid obesity goes beyond choosing to over eat. That being established fact, one needs to look at risk vs. benefit and with the correct risk being 1 in 1000 there's little doubt that the surgery is safer.

 

[jagec]

I think the point is it's a surgical procedure that's used as shortcut, when discipline would work just as well. It isn't removing a cancerous tumor or anything.

That's not entirely true though. The gastric bypass literally rewires the way your body deals with food. Patients who have a gastric bypass lose weight MUCH faster than people who simply eat less*, and they also show a large improvement in insulin response within days of the surgery*.

Now, if you ever get to the point where you are considering gastric bypass surgery, clearly something is SERIOUSLY wrong with your life. And if you get the surgery, but don't change your eating or exercise habits as well, you're eventually going to gain it back. But the surgery is clearly more effective (albeit more risky and more costly) than simple dieting+exercising.

 

[Hugo Drax]

I do feel ambivalent, because she seemed nice enough. But I see GP surgery as pretty much the ultimate sign of fatal laziness. If you can't manage to put the fucking fork down when faced with death by fat, I pretty much assume there are other major personality flaws just waiting to bubble to the surface. So while I feel like an asshole slightly, I figure down the road that dread laziness would resurface on her part and drive me away.



Actually I know quite a bit, but please, enlighten me. Try to do so without running to pubmed.

You made the right choice. Move on and look at other women.

 

[Pacfanweb]

Wow, how do you all know people who have done this? I thought this was just a TV and celebrity thing. I have never met anyone who has done this. Seems pretty freaking drastic.

KT

There's lots of fat asses around. I know several, too.

 

[Nebor]

I know someone who had it done and the results were amazing. As much as my train of thought is always "well just have more will power" I think it all falls down to the fact that when your stomac reaches the size of a kid's swimming pool, you're just always hungry because it takes more to fill it. So the Gastric bypass will make it so you eat a very tiny meal and you are already full.

Then again, don't they also make pills that make you feel full? I can't see why those would not work. Of course you still have to help yourself by eating decent foods too.

I realize this is shocking to some people, but you should just be hungry. Human beings aren't meant to be full all the time. As our society coddles everyone and shields them from every little discomfort, we've seen all sorts of societal issues cropping up. Sometimes things suck. They're supposed to. It makes you better.

 

[RaistlinZ]

To "hang out"? Yes, you're a dick. There's no reason you can't talk to someone just because they had surgery.

To "have sex with"? No, you're not a dick. All that loose skin she has would make sex disgusting.

 

[JulesMaximus]

I have a friend from high school who went through this surgery recently. He looks like a freaking skeleton now... it is just scary how much of a shock this is to your system. I used to work with a guy who did this surgery as well, he lost a ton of weight but eventually gained quite a bit of it back.

I'm kind of siding with the OP on this. I'd probably make conversation with her and be polite but she'd have to be pretty fucking charming to get me to hang out with her.

Maybe this was a tad harsh but I'd have to take it on a case by case basis. Couldn't really say unless I was in the OP's shoes.

 

[WackyDan]

I am going to go with no. Big boned is a myth and even larger skeletal structure accounts for like 10lbs. And just because you claim she "eats like a mouse" doesn't mean she doesn't eat like a moose when you're not around.

What an ignorant bag of dicks.

 

[Nebor]

What a refreshing bag of truth.

FTFY.

 

[mikeford]

I was with a girl the other day, and having a decent time, then she mentions she lost 130 lbs. My ears perk up because I assume she's interested in health/fitness, which is something I enjoy. Nope. Gastric Bypass. Am I an asshole for thinking that shit is insane? You're basically saying "Doc, I have no ability to control myself, so I need you to GUT ME, hack my stomach into pieces, REROUTE my mangled intestines, and then sew that shit back up". The operation can be done to to treat morbid obesity, hypertension, diabetes, etc....except all of these conditions can be treated by....losing fucking weight naturally.

The fucked up thing is, you have to lose weight before you get the surgery usually, to show the doctors you're serious....JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU DID TO LOSE THE FUCKING WEIGHT. Alright, I'm done ranting, but fuck. How fucking lazy/fucked up do you have to be that "putting the fucking fork down" is a less appealing option than having your guts scrambled?

It was kindness to remove yourself from a nice girls life.

 

[QueBert]

I do feel ambivalent, because she seemed nice enough. But I see GP surgery as pretty much the ultimate sign of fatal laziness. If you can't manage to put the fucking fork down when faced with death by fat, I pretty much assume there are other major personality flaws just waiting to bubble to the surface. So while I feel like an asshole slightly, I figure down the road that dread laziness would resurface on her part and drive me away.



Actually I know quite a bit, but please, enlighten me. Try to do so without running to pubmed.

You do understand you can't just go to the hospital and tell them you want Gastric Bypass and they go "okay, come back next week" You have to go a ton of classes, read a ton of shit and you have to 1st lose some weight on your own. I know 3 people who got it done, and for all of them it was a year + process just to get to where the doctor okay'ed the procedure. A high percentage of people who go in to get this procedure done never end reaching the approval stage.

Lazy people don't get the Gastric Bypass surgery because it's a lot of damn work to get to where you're even approved for it.

 

[Slew Foot]

Youre fine, fat people deserve all the ridicule they get.

 

[Nebor]

You do understand you can't just go to the hospital and tell them you want Gastric Bypass and they go "okay, come back next week" You have to go a ton of classes, read a ton of shit and you have to 1st lose some weight on your own. I know 3 people who got it done, and for all of them it was a year + process just to get to where the doctor okay'ed the procedure. A high percentage of people who go in to get this procedure done never reach the approval stage.

Lazy people don't get the Gastric Bypass surgery because it's a lot of damn work to get to where you're approved for it.

And yet I know 6 people who've had it and all of them have gained all of the weight back after a couple years.

There's a big difference between doing "work" to lose enough weight so that you can get your magic surgery, and doing "work" that lasts the rest of your life, with no concrete goal to reach, because it's a healthy lifestyle you need.

 

[QueBert]

And yet I know 6 people who've had it and all of them have gained all of the weight back after a couple years.

There's a big difference between doing "work" to lose enough weight so that you can get your magic surgery, and doing "work" that lasts the rest of your life, with no concrete goal to reach, because it's a healthy lifestyle you need.

OP is calling a female lazy, when she invested at least a year of her life into getting the nod from her doctor to have this operation done. I don't think he understands the definition of the word lazy. Lazy people could never make it to the stage where they qualify for this surgery. And the 6 people you know are exceptional people, because the 3 I know 2 of them can't eat more than a saucer sizer serving of food at a time. And the 3rd would have trouble eating more than half a big mac in a sitting. They still can't even drink a regular size glass of water, this is years after having the operation done. When I eat out with any of them, they can't have liquid with their food. They'll have maybe 3-4oz of water 30 minutes before and eat a stupidly small portion with a few oz of water well after we're done eating. It would be literally impossible for them to get to their old size, they simply can't eat much food any more even if they wanted to. Only around 25% put a decent % of their weight back on after about 5 years, so for every single person you know who's had it to put it all back on is not believable.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

This thread reminded me of a time I had in sociology 101, sitting towards the back. The subject of the moment was obesity and all the horrible pressures that fatties must face, and the professor asks rhetorically, "And when is it ever acceptable to have heavier people kissing on television?" to which the uber-skinny slightly-goth girl to my left mutters "Never, thank goodness". Won my heart over instantly. I wish I had the confidence to compliment her on her outstanding fatty hatred.