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Jhhnn

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Actual facts, but don't worry, President Trump will make America great again.

If you were a lot better at what you do you could get a job like Kellyanne's instead of whatever you're being paid now. I guess it's like anything else. Even propagandists need to start at the bottom, work their way up if they can.
 

jonks

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This is a vile smear. Ms. Conway didn't say "alternative facts". She said Spicer was provided information by "alternative fax", as opposed to say, email. Watch the tape. The left will stop at nothing to discredit this intelligent woman.
 
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OrByte

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I think a sizable section of Trump supporters are hopelessly lost and will never be brought back to a fact-based reality. I truly think so.

I also think they have always been this way, that simply put around 20-30% of our nations population is susceptible to this kind of gaslighting, and always will be.

I think these people should simply be written off, there is no capability to change minds and hearts of certain types of people. It can't be done. Just look at a few of the "true believers" here in this forum.

Instead, the focus needs to be on the apathy in America, those that don't care enough to do anything. We need to get back to our education system and work with younger generations to develop critical thinking skills, a civic sense of duty, a better work ethic, all of these things that are educational/social/economical problems (poverty, missing fathers, education reform...ugh the list is long.)

Tough work lies ahead.
 
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vampirefo

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This is a vile smear. Ms. Conway didn't say "alternative facts". She said Spicer was provided information by "alternative fax", as opposed to say, email. Watch the tape. The left will stop at nothing to discredit this intelligent woman.
Well, yes the educated Democrats, know yet they allow the uneducated to speak.

No educated Democrat protested, or rioted, they simply paid the uneducated to do it.
 

Fingolfin269

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One thing that's great about that video is if you ever play her in a game of poker you already have her tell. Watch her reaction immediately after saying the phrase. Her body language just can't hide her true feelings.
 

Jhhnn

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IronWing

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I never watched Ms Conway before, only seeing her parodied on SNL. SNL has been much too kind, treating her as someone who picked the wrong job and is suffering for it. After this performance, it is clear that she is all about power.
 
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soundforbjt

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I never watched Ms Conway before, only seeing her parodied on SNL. SNL has been much too kind, treating her as someone who picked the wrong job and is suffering for it. After this performance, it is clear that she is all about power.
Look at her statements about Trump while she was Cruz's manager, it's obvious she doesn't believe a thing she says now or then. She's all about the power.
 

jhbball

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This is a vile smear. Ms. Conway didn't say "alternative facts". She said Spicer was provided information by "alternative fax", as opposed to say, email. Watch the tape. The left will stop at nothing to discredit this intelligent woman.

This is a joke, right?
 

nakedfrog

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I think a sizable section of Trump supporters are hopelessly lost and will never be brought back to a fact-based reality. I truly think so.

I also think they have always been this way, that simply put around 20-30% of our nations population is susceptible to this kind of gaslighting, and always will be.

I think these people should simply be written off, there is no capability to change minds and hearts of certain types of people. It can't be done. Just look at a few of the "true believers" here in this forum.

Instead, the focus needs to be on the apathy in America, those that don't care enough to do anything. We need to get back to our education system and work with younger generations to develop critical thinking skills, a civic sense of duty, a better work ethic, all of these things that are educational/social/economical problems (poverty, missing fathers, education reform...ugh the list is long.)

Tough work lies ahead.
Taking care of the gerrymandering would probably be pretty helpful, but it should go without saying it needs to be done in an impartial way, we don't want the deck to simply be stacked in the other direction.
 
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nakedfrog

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Correct, Trump has already made America great again, Today is Monday, what a great day it is, First Monday without Obama, looking forward to tomorrow, it will also be a first.
Of course, he had an easy job, since America was great before he even took office.
 

OrByte

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Taking care of the gerrymandering would probably be pretty helpful, but it should go without saying it needs to be done in an impartial way, we don't want the deck to simply be stacked in the other direction.
and term limits. Again, with the same impartiality.

These are the 2 things we need champions for. Gerrymandering and Term limits.
 

VRAMdemon

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"Alternative facts"! Nothing is ever a lie, ever again! No one ever has to admit they don't know what they're talking about, ever again! This is gonna totally fucking rock!

Alternative right, alternative facts = good

Alternative energy, alternative lifestyle = take their coats
 
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Taking care of the gerrymandering would probably be pretty helpful, but it should go without saying it needs to be done in an impartial way, we don't want the deck to simply be stacked in the other direction.
lol, i'm sure you can find a passle of liberals, Democrats, progressives, socialists and communists that will promise to be "impartial" as they change congressional districts into something more fair...................... for them. Ask Jhhnn i'm sure he'll volunteer.
 

zinfamous

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This is a vile smear. Ms. Conway didn't say "alternative facts". She said Spicer was provided information by "alternative fax", as opposed to say, email. Watch the tape. The left will stop at nothing to discredit this intelligent woman.

lol. you caught our latest lurking moron with this one.

Nice! :D
 
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zinfamous

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One thing that's great about that video is if you ever play her in a game of poker you already have her tell. Watch her reaction immediately after saying the phrase. Her body language just can't hide her true feelings.

yep. I paused it when it was happening and went back a few times. That little grin a few seconds after those words spilled out was so satisfying. You could tell that she really couldn't believe what just came forth. It was great. Hell, I'd be proud of myself if I were her, engaged in this sort of task. It must be amusing to have to invent constant nonsense to defend the indefensible.
 

Jhhnn

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lol, i'm sure you can find a passle of liberals, Democrats, progressives, socialists and communists that will promise to be "impartial" as they change congressional districts into something more fair...................... for them. Ask Jhhnn i'm sure he'll volunteer.

Needs more Uhh-wah!

The great thing about Righties is that they feel so persecuted even with their boot on somebody else's neck.
 

nakedfrog

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Apr 3, 2001
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lol, i'm sure you can find a passle of liberals, Democrats, progressives, socialists and communists that will promise to be "impartial" as they change congressional districts into something more fair...................... for them. Ask Jhhnn i'm sure he'll volunteer.
Gosh, sir, I sure am sorry for posting something that wasn't adequately Trump-fellatory for your standards.
 

jonks

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"Alternative facts"! Nothing is ever a lie, ever again! No one ever has to admit they don't know what they're talking about, ever again! This is gonna totally fucking rock!
Which is of course driving the true conservatives crazy, since they have been arguing for decades that moral relativism is a blight on mankind, and that absolute fact and truth are knowable and ascertainable. But here we are in the UpsideDown, where relativism is all the rage.