[allthingsd.com] AMD getting ready for another round of Layoffs

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Ajay

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charlie take on this:
http://semiaccurate.com/2012/10/15/...-management-doesnt-understand-semiconductors/

well, it makes sense...
since Sanders left, AMD took some very strange decisions...

The thing I don't get is how AMD could have put the development pipeline on "hold"?! Does this mean that while AMD kept producing designs, it didn't push them forward to tape out? This would explain why we haven't heard about the tape outs of SR and Kaveri (it might even explain why Excavator is 28nm, the work on the design began b/4 they had the 20nm libraries).

Well, the bottom line from Charlie is "Game Over".
 

AtenRa

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Almost 1300 words and at the end we know the same thing we knew before, absolutely NOTHING NEW. This guy is a waste of time to read.
 

Olikan

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The thing I don't get is how AMD could have put the development pipeline on "hold"?! Does this mean that while AMD kept producing designs, it didn't push them forward to tape out? This would explain why we haven't heard about the tape outs of SR and Kaveri (it might even explain why Excavator is 28nm, the work on the design began b/4 they had the 20nm libraries).

Well, the bottom line from Charlie is "Game Over".

dude, there is a meme called Another Major Delay...go figure out:rolleyes:
 

ShintaiDK

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So now the 20-30% cuts at AMD make more sense, not only have the last two quarters been weak, but next quarter is going to be downright horrible - hence, they simply cannot sustain their current engineering staff (since they have nothing in the piggy bank to carry them over, unlike Intel).

Ye, their lackbuster products sure dont have anything to do with it *cough*

AMD have been cutting back in good times too.
 

Ajay

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dude, there is a meme called Another Major Delay...go figure out:rolleyes:

Ye, their lackbuster products sure dont have anything to do with it *cough*

AMD have been cutting back in good times too.

Yeah, I've been in companies that cut back in good times - they wack some group that is under-performing or has their product EOLed. No that that is what is (or has) happening at Another Major Delay, Inc (thanks for that :rolleyes: ).

Of course it's due to lame products - duh, don't need a PhD to figure that out. I'm really sorry I posted, really sorry - geez.
 

Idontcare

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Almost 1300 words and at the end we know the same thing we knew before, absolutely NOTHING NEW. This guy is a waste of time to read.

Are you talking about Rory or Charlie?

Rory's memo to the downtrodden was vacuous to the point of embarrassment. The guy truly does not help himself in avoiding garnering the perception that he is all talk and no thought.

Rory Read said:
Clearly, these preliminary results are disappointing to all of us and not reflective of the hard work and commitment demonstrated by AMDers every day. There is no doubt we are working through significant change and are feeling the pressures of a challenging market environment. The factors that emerged earlier this year that impacted the market and our business remain, and we continue to feel those impacts. I am personally disappointed in our results but we will push forward.

The strategy we laid out at the beginning of the year is sound – building our differentiated IP through ambidextrous architectures, Heterogeneous Systems Architecture (HSA) and leadership in graphics and cores – but we must accelerate our plans to adjust to accelerating market tends. We have spent time with our Board of Directors and as an AMD Executive Team (AET) talking through our short and long-term strategy and the steps necessary to enable us to execute on the goals and objectives we set. We are paving and charting our own path to success, and we will face challenges and make tough decisions along the way.

o_O with leadership like that oozing from above down onto the heads of the plebeians, how can the company not be kicking Intel's butt left and right?
 

ctsoth

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Are you talking about Rory or Charlie?

Rory's memo to the downtrodden was vacuous to the point of embarrassment. The guy truly does not help himself in avoiding garnering the perception that he is all talk and no thought.



o_O with leadership like that oozing from above down onto the heads of the plebeians, how can the company not be kicking Intel's butt left and right?

lol nice. We dun gotz good ideaz AMDerzz.... We'ze gunna do whut we bean dewin ye know! Retz dew it!
 

Idontcare

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I liked Predator Rory better than Food Stamp Rory. Predator Rory sounded like he thought AMD could accomplish something. Food Stamp Rory sounds like he's wishing he stayed with Lenovo at this point.
 

ViRGE

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I liked Predator Rory better than Food Stamp Rory. Predator Rory sounded like he thought AMD could accomplish something. Food Stamp Rory sounds like he's wishing he stayed with Lenovo at this point.
In all seriousness he probably would have been better off at Lenovo. When all of this is done, will anyone want a CEO that rode a tech company into the ground?
 

Keysplayr

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Actually, what you said above applies to both Charlie and Rory. So you were right on both counts. All we see from Charlie is regurgitated not so accurate information and non stop Nvidia bashing. Rory seems to be a buzzword guy.
Idontcare envisions him as Larry the Cable Guy (and that is funny) but I have been picturing him as the manager in that movie "Office Space". MmKaay? hehe remember that?
 

Keysplayr

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In all seriousness he probably would have been better off at Lenovo. When all of this is done, will anyone want a CEO that rode a tech company into the ground?

I ran Quimonda into the ground. You don't see anyone hiring me do you? :colbert:

:p
 

Idontcare

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I ran Quimonda into the ground. You don't see anyone hiring me do you? :colbert:

:p

Its Qimonda without the "u" after the "Q".

I only remember that because it violates one of those basic useless rules of english we all got pounded into heads in grade school - if "q" must alway be followed by a "u" then why not just make the rule be that a "q" makes the "q" sound without the "u" and be done with it?

I have issues with silent "k" too, as in knife and knight.
 

blastingcap

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Its Qimonda without the "u" after the "Q".

I only remember that because it violates one of those basic useless rules of english we all got pounded into heads in grade school - if "q" must alway be followed by a "u" then why not just make the rule be that a "q" makes the "q" sound without the "u" and be done with it?

I have issues with silent "k" too, as in knife and knight.

I suppose, but words wouldn't look right to me. Qeef?
 

NostaSeronx

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Barbarian Sanders -> Killer Ruiz -> Destroyer Meyer -> Number Puncher Seifert -> Predator Read

AMD is going to evolve into Nvidia, and become super profitable soon anyway.
 
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Idontcare

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Actually, what you said above applies to both Charlie and Rory. So you were right on both counts. All we see from Charlie is regurgitated not so accurate information and non stop Nvidia bashing. Rory seems to be a buzzword guy.
Idontcare envisions him as Larry the Cable Guy (and that is funny) but I have been picturing him as the manager in that movie "Office Space". MmKaay? hehe remember that?

Well, truth be told, setting aside all the pokes and jabs that are really meant in jest, I actually thought (and continue to think) that if anyone can save AMD and morph it into a company that creates products that serve a market in a viable fashion (not this for-loss mode that AMD has been in almost always) then it would be Rory that could do it and it would take a Rory (experience-wise) to be able to have the vision of what it would take to do it.

His memos may be vacuous and full of buzzwords but that may be an unfortunate side-effect of what HR requires him to not say in a time of considerable internal headcount flux.

I doubt Rory is as one-dimensional as the snippets of his caricature seem to be from a handful of online videos and a few leaked internal memos.

But it does make for good sport to lampoon the guy for the strawman that he can be spun to be on the basis of those video snippets and memos :whiste:
 

Madpacket

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I just hope in 3 - 5 years time a mediocre performing Intel x86 CPU does not cost 500+ dollars. I lived through that once and it was not fun (Pentium 233MMX).
 

ShintaiDK

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I just hope in 3 - 5 years time a mediocre performing Intel x86 CPU does not cost 500+ dollars. I lived through that once and it was not fun (Pentium 233MMX).

Prices will be the same as today in the same segments plus inflation corrected.
 

CHADBOGA

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I just hope in 3 - 5 years time a mediocre performing Intel x86 CPU does not cost 500+ dollars. I lived through that once and it was not fun (Pentium 233MMX).

You lived through an era of continually falling CPU prices in the 1990's and at one point the Pentium 233MMX was a top end CPU in its day.

It is pretty silly to say that just because the passage of time has seen the P233MMX's performance blitzed, that it was a mediocre CPU.
 

Siberian

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Why do people in the CPU forum think AMD is about to die and in the video forum they think AMD is on top of the world?