All you need to know about Atkins . . . UPDATED 12-3

[SuperTool]

They should look at Chukchas, eskimos, etc. They eat reindeer year round. It would be nice to see what the side effects are.

 

[dfi]

Congrats on the weight loss. That was the easy part. Now to keep it off.

I was watching CNN Presents, and they were talking about weight loss and diets. They state that the problem is not losing weight, as most people are able to lose weight on any of the diets today. The main problem is keeping the weight off. They suggest picking something you can stick to for life. That sounds like good advice to me.

One of the researchers they interviewed catalogued a list of 3000 dieters who have lost 30lbs+ and managed to keep it off for 2 years +. Here are some of the things they noticed about the dieters:

- usually failed initially at keeping the weight off
- don't deny themselves of foods they like
- eat 5 meals daily
- exercise regularly

The program also reported that many of them were on high carb diets.

So if you're on low carb and it's working, that's great. If this is something you can maintain for life, then great. I couldn't do it personally. I tried low carb and did lose some weight, but since my main goal is gaining muscle mass it was quite counterproductive.

dfi

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: SammySon

Yes it is, but you still missed the point. Where in European history did people go without eating meat for 600 years? I say European because that is the ancestry of a large portion of the US, and I'm just using it as an example of one culture.

I see your point. But it is of no relevance.
We are set in our ways of eating meat. Unless you go an educate a majority of the population and get them to switch, nothing is going to change.

Pubic hair should be genetically obsolete. Humans have gone long over 600 years without wearing clothes. Why hasn't pubic hair stopped growing?
Or our tail bone?
Or the appendix?
Such simplistic views of evolution can't explain thoes.

You realize that you are backing up my contention that we are genetically predisposed to eating meat, as determined by our ancestors dating back thousands of years? Yes, we still have body hair, a tail bone, an appendix, and we can still digest meat. So why not eat it?

 

You realize that you are backing up my contention that we are genetically predisposed to eating meat, as determined by our ancestors dating back thousands of years? Yes, we still have body hair, a tail bone, an appendix, and we can still digest meat. So why not eat it?

Yes, I realize that.
Though, I'd like to see some written works supporting your opinion

We can also handle crack cocaine and LSD, so why not take it?

 

[desy]

Duh because meat doesn't hurt our bodies and crack does?
If people werren't predisposed genetically why are there different races?

 

[Triumph]

Originally posted by: SammySon

You realize that you are backing up my contention that we are genetically predisposed to eating meat, as determined by our ancestors dating back thousands of years? Yes, we still have body hair, a tail bone, an appendix, and we can still digest meat. So why not eat it?

Yes, I realize that.
Though, I'd like to see some written works supporting your opinion

We can also handle crack cocaine and LSD, so why not take it?

Which opinion? That prehistoric man ate alot of meat? I don't need to provide links to support that claim.

 

[DBL]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn


So you were burning at least 2400 calories a day more than you were taking in for 3 months straight? You sure you weren't supplementing your diet with a little methamphetamine?

Ephedrine, which is comes from the amphetamine family. I find it strange how he can question other peoples well thought out diet while he was popping stimulants for three months straight while working out, no less. Losing 86lbs in three months can't possibly be healthy. I think you would have a hard time finding a doctor who would approve of such a drastic course.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
So you were burning at least 2400 calories a day more than you were taking in for 3 months straight? You sure you weren't supplementing your diet with a little methamphetamine?

I worked out at 4-5am-> then around 10-11am ate about 4 oz tuna/chicken/etc, some veggies, a pita or white rice....then starved until 5pm, ate some more like above and ran again at night for 30-45mins.

Weight dropped off....the EC stack worked awesome for me.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Red Dawn


So you were burning at least 2400 calories a day more than you were taking in for 3 months straight? You sure you weren't supplementing your diet with a little methamphetamine?

Ephedrine, which is comes from the amphetamine family. I find it strange how he can question other peoples well thought out diet while he was popping stimulants for three months straight while working out, no less. Losing 86lbs in three months can't possibly be healthy. I think you would have a hard time finding a doctor who would approve of such a drastic course.

Actually my doctor didnt approve of it....it worked though.

Most of what I do people don't approve. I do my own research though, and I gotz lotz of science in my education bag.

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[Triumph]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: DBL

Originally posted by: Red Dawn


So you were burning at least 2400 calories a day more than you were taking in for 3 months straight? You sure you weren't supplementing your diet with a little methamphetamine?

Ephedrine, which is comes from the amphetamine family. I find it strange how he can question other peoples well thought out diet while he was popping stimulants for three months straight while working out, no less. Losing 86lbs in three months can't possibly be healthy. I think you would have a hard time finding a doctor who would approve of such a drastic course.

Actually my doctor didnt approve of it....it worked though.

Most of what I do people don't approve. I do my own research though, and I gotz lotz of science in my education bag.

Å

Hah! So what makes your unhealthy method of weight loss "right," and Dr. Atkin's "unhealthy" method wrong?

 

[ThaPerculator]

I love how he bashes a real lifestyle change and yet thinks that starvation + amphetamines are perfectly fine. Hypocrisy at its best. Have fun staying on that one for any substantial amount of time.

 

[Wingznut]

You should ask him how much alcohol he drinks.

 

[FrustratedUser]

Well done X-Man

 

[Jadow]

Spring of 2001 I was 268 lbs. Started Atkins off and on (sometimes I went weeks off it) and even with my really undisciplined approach to Atkins, I weighed 204 when I stepped on the scale this morning. Shooting for 185 eventually.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: ThaPerculator
I love how he bashes a real lifestyle change and yet thinks that starvation + amphetamines are perfectly fine. Hypocrisy at its best. Have fun staying on that one for any substantial amount of time.

lalalalalalalalala

I lost my weight in 1996....I will destroy most now, absolutely beat their a$$ until oblivion. You won't even get a chance to call your mommy.

I am a 7 year of college level biologist + experience in *real* lifting and exercising since I was 15.

I am 32 now. When I am exercising I can eat absolutely what I *want*...fortunately I like drinks more than chocolates and sugars and pork chops (your mother holds them dear, she barks like a seal as I throw them to her).

suck it down fatty.

 

[Wingznut]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: ThaPerculator
I love how he bashes a real lifestyle change and yet thinks that starvation + amphetamines are perfectly fine. Hypocrisy at its best. Have fun staying on that one for any substantial amount of time.

lalalalalalalalala

I lost my weight in 1996....I will destroy most now, absolutely beat their a$$ until oblivion. You won't even get a chance to call your mommy.

I am a 7 year of college level biologist + experience in *real* lifting and exercising since I was 15.

I am 32 now. When I am exercising I can eat absolutely what I *want*...fortunately I like drinks more than chocolates and sugars and pork chops (your mother holds them dear, she barks like a seal as I throw them to her).

suck it down fatty.

Uh-oh... We got a tough guy here. :Q

Wait, let me rephrase... An immature tough guy.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Triumph

Hah! So what makes your unhealthy method of weight loss "right," and Dr. Atkin's "unhealthy" method wrong?

hmmm let me think now....

think

think

think

when did I say either was right....do you atkin's pro-advocates grasp basic literary levels or did you miss that lesson as you were stuffing a chicken wing in your mouth.

m00 m00 baBY!

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
Uh-oh... We got a tough guy here. :Q

Wait, let me rephrase... An immature tough guy.

Yep buddy...a real one too

I am 32: This is at 175 and 32, imagine thinner and 190lbs.


Here is a tissue.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Wingznut
You should ask him how much alcohol he drinks.

Oh BTW I am having a beer now.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Wingznut
Uh-oh... We got a tough guy here. :Q

Wait, let me rephrase... An immature tough guy.

Yep buddy...a real one too

I am 32: This is at 175 and 32, imagine thinner and 190lbs.


Here is a tissue.

[Rocky Balboa] You're not so tuff[/Rocky Balboa] Jeezus, you post more pics pf yourself than Riprorin and Luvly combined

 

[Triumph]

Thank you, alkemyst, for degenerating the thread into, "I can beat you up therefore I'm right."

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Triumph
Thank you, alkemyst, for degenerating the thread into, "I can beat you up therefore I'm right."

Nope again that was not my intention....one of you Atkin's zealots stated that.

I just look good, can't help it sorry....if I can beat someone up oh well.

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Triumph
Thank you, alkemyst, for degenerating the thread into, "I can beat you up therefore I'm right."

You're just jealous.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
[Rocky Balboa] You're not so tuff[/Rocky Balboa] Jeezus, you post more pics pf yourself than Riprorin and Luvly combined

not quite rocky, esp in rocky II or beyond, but I can hold my own....

I got called out....if someone wants to think of me as a pencilneck or fatty because I like PC's and beer (and women and cars)....I will prove them wrong on that.

You should see the size of this chip on my shoulder

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
They should look at Chukchas, eskimos, etc. They eat reindeer year round. It would be nice to see what the side effects are.

They aren't good. I'll try to find more info later.