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I'm not getting the IPA hate.

IPA doent have to be stupidly hopped. A proper UK IPA is well drinkable, the fact that you guys seem to want to turn it into cough syrup isnt an intrinsic problem with the drink.
 
VashHT said:
Yeah the beer market is great, I go there about once a week from work. How is the taproom down at half acre? I never have a chance to go there, when we go down to the city we generally end up going to revolution or goose island (or both).
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Fantastic! Half-Acre is always doing something unique with their beer so you never get bored with it. I hate IPAs and loved shewolf, a melon based IPA. Their latest collaboration beer with Maine Brewing Company is also excellent. You can't really go wrong with most of the breweries in Chicago.
 
Atomic Playboy said:
I've learned not to order Old Fashioneds in public; everyone makes them the stupid way, with a bunch of muddled fruit and crushed ice. Gin and Tonics are usually safe, regardless of the skill of the bartender.
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I usually do have Dunedin Brewery here for my Stouts, etc, when there is a band there I want to see and the Pub Burgers are great.

I do like a few have mentioned have a spot or too for Gin Martini's straight up that I know make them right. I usually don't keep a hard liquor in general at the house much these days.

One of them has an outside porch with a small band I like to sit at when the suns going down and just order some Calamari or something and drink 2 or 3 Martinis relaxing, and the wife gets what she wants. They used to have conk fritters and I asked the waitress I asked about them, they must not have had a large demand, derp.

I still don't think I've even ever tried an IPA, I know they have them at the Brewery, but I usually get stouts.

http://www.dunedinbrewery.com/

Hmm, I'm going to have to try that Local Honey one, looks new.
 
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MongGrel said:
I still don't think I've even ever tried an IPA, I know they have them at the Brewery, but I usually get stouts.
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American IPAs are pretty bad, they take a fairly hoppy beer and turn it into something that you could clean a toilet with.

Try to get hold of an English IPA to start off with. India Pale Ale is hoped for export anyway so it shouldnt be hard to get hold of a decent British one.
 
vi edit said:
Agreed. Proliferation of IPA's and the whole hop craze is annoying. I'm not adverse to hops, but don't like them for the sake of just being "hoppy". Make it compliment some other flavor or aroma of the beer not just to punch me in the face with a pine cone.
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I agree!

What happened, as I understand it, years ago the Pacific Northwest had a mini-drought which made a shortage of hops. Then to be "cool" or "edgy" craft breweries added a boat-load of hops because they were rare (hipster cred?). Years later it became a thing. Hops = rare quality. Not true as the craft marketing machine (just as guilty as Big Beer) too over.

I think there is a weird stupid macho thing going on where people want beer with high ABV and a boat-load of hops. Not because they like it, but because it is macho cool to have.
 
Babbles said:
I think there is a weird stupid macho thing going on where people want beer with high ABV and a boat-load of hops. Not because they like it, but because it is macho cool to have.
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I like extreme hopped beer, but not all the time. It's just a different color on the palette, and is worth having every so often.
 
Sho'Nuff said:
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/30/2894/

One of the best brown ales in a can I have ever had.

Upside - in addition to tasting good it is relatively cheap.
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I saw your post, saw the beer was < 20 ibu (where I like it to be), located a store near me that carried it, bought it, and took it with to a friend's place today to share. Amazing taste! I'll remember this one to buy on a semi-regular basis. There are but a few beers outside of hefeweizens & white ales I enjoy, this certainly is one!

I've had a couple friends try to get me into brown ales by having me try Newcastle, never cared for it to buy it. But this stuff is fantastic.
 
WelshBloke said:
American IPAs are pretty bad, they take a fairly hoppy beer and turn it into something that you could clean a toilet with.

Try to get hold of an English IPA to start off with. India Pale Ale is hoped for export anyway so it shouldnt be hard to get hold of a decent British one.
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I'd like to see your reaction to Victory Dirtwolf. 🙂 I love the stuff. If this is what your toilet cleaner tastes like I'm surprised it's not a common form of suicide. 😛
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/345/99873/
http://www.victorybeer.com/beers/dirtwolf-double-ipa/

Also, we're coming for you! http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21541887
According to the Brewers Association, exports of US craft beer rose by 72% in 2012, with Canada, the UK and Sweden making up the largest international markets.
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Known for their potent, hoppy flavours and high alcohol percentages, and often comprising unusual ingredients like chilli and chocolate, American craft beers have inspired a host of imitators, especially in the UK.

British firms like Darkstar, Meantime and Marble have all manufactured drinks influenced more by California and Colorado than Cornwall or Coventry.
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I don't have any issue with people who like less hoppy beers, but there is an inordinate amount of IPA hate out there. There seems to be this weird perception (among some) that if you like IPAs you're "just trying to look cool" or something. On the flip side there are also IPA snobs who think nothing else is worth drinking, even stuff they haven't tried. 😛
 
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irishScott said:
I'd like to see your reaction to Victory Dirtwolf. 🙂 I love the stuff. If this is what your toilet cleaner tastes like I'm surprised it's not a common form of suicide. 😛
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/345/99873/
http://www.victorybeer.com/beers/dirtwolf-double-ipa/

Also, we're coming for you! http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21541887





I don't have any issue with people who like less hoppy beers, but there is an inordinate amount of IPA hate out there. There seems to be this weird perception (among some) that if you like IPAs you're "just trying to look cool" or something. On the flip side there are also IPA snobs who think nothing else is worth drinking, even stuff they haven't tried. 😛
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Wow, so you Craft Beer folks even hate each other?!?!?

God gave us Beer so we can get along. So many wartime sit downs just had whatever beer or spirits was available so everyone just chilled and had some discussion like on a Christmas or when a hero died at times.

Our world/Nation is inventing more and more lines in the sand to fight over.

Beer should not be one of them.

Please don't have a spaz at my bar, but I will not judge you for asking for some kind of "Two Monks One Cup Epic Ale!". Drink whatever you want.

Just don't make a scene and insult the waitstaff when they don't have it.

Doubly so, don't do that when they only have it in a bottle and not Draft. That is just insane, and I have seen it happen.
 
alkemyst said:
Wow, so you Craft Beer folks even hate each other?!?!?

God gave us Beer so we can get along. So many wartime sit downs just had whatever beer or spirits was available so everyone just chilled and had some discussion like on a Christmas or when a hero died at times.

Our world/Nation is inventing more and more lines in the sand to fight over.

Beer should not be one of them.

Please don't have a spaz at my bar, but I will not judge you for asking for some kind of "Two Monks One Cup Epic Ale!". Drink whatever you want.

Just don't make a scene and insult the waitstaff when they don't have it.

Doubly so, don't do that when they only have it in a bottle and not Draft. That is just insane, and I have seen it happen.
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Yeah, it's an aftershock of Craft Beer transitioning out of the fringe/hipster arena. The original hipsters who first drank the stuff are pissed at all the "wannabes" trying to to get into it, and a lot of those wannabes just getting into it think it makes them look hipster and stupidly try to show off. Not that any of that is true, but those are the perceptions.

For my part, I just like good beer.
 
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xeemzor said:
Fantastic! Half-Acre is always doing something unique with their beer so you never get bored with it. I hate IPAs and loved shewolf, a melon based IPA. Their latest collaboration beer with Maine Brewing Company is also excellent. You can't really go wrong with most of the breweries in Chicago.
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Cool, I've always wanted to check it out, I'll have to make it a point one weekend. I went to the solem oath taproom in naperville with my gf over the weekend and I was enjoying the beer there quite a bit. They had a lot of farmhouse ales on tap and a really good double red and barrel aged oatmeal stout, I'd check them out if you're ever in the area.
 
irishScott said:
Yeah, it's an aftershock of Craft Beer transitioning out of the fringe/hipster arena. The original hipsters who first drank the stuff are pissed at all the "wannabes" trying to to get into it, and a lot of those wannabes just getting into it think it makes them look hipster and stupidly try to show off.

For my part, I just like good beer.
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As if hipsters discovered craft beer to begin with. I forgot, nobody except Anheuser and Coors made beer before 2005.
 
WelshBloke said:
American IPAs are pretty bad, they take a fairly hoppy beer and turn it into something that you could clean a toilet with.

Try to get hold of an English IPA to start off with. India Pale Ale is hoped for export anyway so it shouldnt be hard to get hold of a decent British one.
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I actually went down there Saturday nite and sampled a few of the IPA's, is a bit like sipping on a pine tree.
 
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smackababy said:
As if hipsters discovered craft beer to begin with. I forgot, nobody except Anheuser and Coors made beer before 2005.
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True, just saying that's the perception. Remember craft beer as we know it wasn't even legal before 1979, unless you count pre-prohibition. It was a pretty significant counter-culture for a while, and it's only started to truly shake that image in recent years. Hipsters didn't invent it, but they kinda adopted it and now they're pissed that something they adopted is yet-again becoming mainstream.
 
irishScott said:
I'd like to see your reaction to Victory Dirtwolf. 🙂 I love the stuff. If this is what your toilet cleaner tastes like I'm surprised it's not a common form of suicide. 😛
http://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/345/99873/
http://www.victorybeer.com/beers/dirtwolf-double-ipa/

Also, we're coming for you! http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21541887





I don't have any issue with people who like less hoppy beers, but there is an inordinate amount of IPA hate out there. There seems to be this weird perception (among some) that if you like IPAs you're "just trying to look cool" or something. On the flip side there are also IPA snobs who think nothing else is worth drinking, even stuff they haven't tried. 😛
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I don't actually mind the odd bottle of over hopped beer it's just a shame that that's what people assume an IPA should be.
MongGrel said:
I actually went sown there Saturday nite and sampled a few of the IPA's, is a bite like sipping on a pine tree.
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They don't all (and shouldn't traditionally) be like that. I'm not convinced that modern American style IPA should really be called an IPA. It's nothing like the IPA I've been drinking for decades. That's not to crap on it, it's a valid type of beer it's just very, very different to a traditional IPA.
 
WelshBloke said:
American IPAs are pretty bad, they take a fairly hoppy beer and turn it into something that you could clean a toilet with.

Try to get hold of an English IPA to start off with. India Pale Ale is hoped for export anyway so it shouldnt be hard to get hold of a decent British one.
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