Alert: Abortion rights are on the ballot August 2nd in Kansas

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HomerJS

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ALL THESE YEARS republicans have been crying about leftist activist courts. They cried when marriage equality was passed, they cried when Obamacare was upheld, but none of those rulings were the result of an leftist activist court. However, overturning R vs W defiantly was the result of an extreme far right religious activist court. That has now been proven.

And so, those religious righties can toss around the term activist court all they want but only they have succeeded in stacking then taking advantage of their activist court.

Do we realize what this monumental victory means? It all but negates this entire Donald Trump stacked US Supreme Court. THIS, my friends, fully delegitimizes to the fullest extent anything and everything this corrupt Trump court has done or will do in the future.
If this court had a soul they would resign and crawl back up into Trump's ass where they came from.
Yet another of their so called principles shown to be utter bullshit. Judicial activism is added to their list of lies along with

Law and order
Will of the people
Religious freedom
Big government
Pro life (only for the unborn)


The only one I can think of where they are consistent are tax cuts for the rich.
 

eelw

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Feels like we have an abnormal amount of good things happening, not that I'm complaining.
But the obscene string of bad luck for Biden starting with Afghanistan, obstruction within party with Manchin/Sinema, blue states forced to lift mask mandates, a world wide inflation issue but apparently it's still Biden's fault and to cap it off Ukraine. Good news had to happen. All lies with the house. If they can still squeak out a 1 seat majority, and 2 extra seats in the senate, Biden can finally get stuff done in his second half of his term.
 

akenbennu

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But the obscene string of bad luck for Biden starting with Afghanistan, obstruction within party with Manchin/Sinema, blue states forced to lift mask mandates, a world wide inflation issue but apparently it's still Biden's fault and to cap it off Ukraine. Good news had to happen. All lies with the house. If they can still squeak out a 1 seat majority, and 2 extra seats in the senate, Biden can finally get stuff done in his second half of his term.
I think the House is a lost cause. Midterms with relatively poor economy bodes ill for the party in power.
 

Brovane

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I predict that next the Republicans will try to get the 2019 ruling over turned. A 6-1 ruling is big hill to climb but that does mean the GOP will not try.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kansas-supreme-court-blocks-abortion-ban-11556298338?mod=article_inline

In its 6-1 ruling, the Kansas court said language protecting “equal and inalienable rights” in the first section of the Kansas Constitution’s Bill of Rights grants a “natural right of personal autonomy” that includes the right to “control one’s own body.”

“This right allows a woman to make her own decisions regarding her body, health, family formation, and family life—decisions that can include whether to continue a pregnancy,” the court’s unsigned majority opinion said.
 

HomerJS

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Dog finally caught the bus and now they are about to get run over by it
 

K1052

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I sort of suspected the amendment would go down but more narrowly. More than 17 point margin is a lot.
Expect to see similar ballot initiatives in states that allow them in the coming years.

Growing evidence that Democrats can capitalize on the issue to boost their own turnout.
 

brycejones

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I predict that next the Republicans will try to get the 2019 ruling over turned. A 6-1 ruling is big hill to climb but that does mean the GOP will not try.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kansas-supreme-court-blocks-abortion-ban-11556298338?mod=article_inline

In its 6-1 ruling, the Kansas court said language protecting “equal and inalienable rights” in the first section of the Kansas Constitution’s Bill of Rights grants a “natural right of personal autonomy” that includes the right to “control one’s own body.”

“This right allows a woman to make her own decisions regarding her body, health, family formation, and family life—decisions that can include whether to continue a pregnancy,” the court’s unsigned majority opinion said.

They will have several years of work ahead before making that attempt since they have to replace justices on the court by campaigning against their retention this also means they have to win the governorship consistently to be able to put different judges on the court. I agree the fight in Kansas isn't over but it will take a long campaign as opposed to a quick win to change it now.
 

hal2kilo

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Told you all this would be a big motivator for the Dems. This is the game changer. Predicted Pub majority wins now in question.

 

Viper1j

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Kansas made abortion a right back in 2019. Republicans now want to remove that right by putting it on the ballot Tuesday.

My take on this, they know most people prefer the protections of Roe. They put this on the ballot now instead of in November because turnout during primaries is lower than the general. Republicans do well when turnout is depressed. The less people that weigh in, the more they can push policies people don't want.

Abortion rights are on the ballot in 5 other states so maybe the will of the people will finally be heard.

Kansas voters will be the first to directly weigh in on abortion rights in the post-Roe era (msn.com)
Pro-birthers got their asses whipped, and their bras snapped.
 

Viper1j

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Abortion is not a "right" its a tragedy. There is nothing to celebrate about aborting a babies life.
Privacy is a RIGHT.

You cool with me hacking your doctor's system, and posting your medical history for all here to see? What your wife's? Your daughter's? When you forfeit a right for one, you do it for all. It's pro-birthers that don't deserve any rights.
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woolfe9998

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The best part of this is the high turnout. If this issue is energizing voters to this extent, it could help quite a bit in the mid-terms. Between the abortion issue, Zawahiri taken out, and the climate bill (hopefully) passing, it's a good start on eroding the GOP's advantage. The last piece we need is good economic news, particularly in relation to inflation, coming out between now and then.
 

tweaker2

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And yet, Kansas will reelect a bunch of republicans come November.

So true. They will elect conservatives because they were taught at their Ministry of Disinformation and Lies (AKA FOX "News") that being racist and xenophobic is to be true patriotic Americans and that Donald Trump is an honest forthright president that got his election stolen from him.

Millions of conservatives would actually prefer (as in make a conscious choice) to believe a whole shitload of obvious blatant lies like that rather than face the fact that they've been misled (conned) into being taken down a road that compels them to vote against their own best interests and that of the nation. They are a threat to the security of the nation whilst believing that everyone else is, all for the benefit of a few corrupt powerful (wealthy) folks who think they know what's best for the nation of which is themselves being in total control of the nation while not having to be elected for the job.

Why they can't/won't see what is so plain and obvious exemplifies what Hitler had done so successfully decades ago with the people of his nation: Create monsters out of thin air and present himself as their heroic savior that will rescue them from certain doom. His Jews are our present day gays, pro-choice, "open border", anti-gun, radical leftist socialist fascist anti-Christian godless heathen and whatever else the GOP leadership can think of to divide and conquer the nation's working class folks.
 

SteveGrabowski

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I kind of find the vote chilling myself. Because it's basically telling the Republicans they can do whatever the fuck they want and they'll still get elected by playing up the culture war and being white supremacists. Kansas voted for Trump 56-42 in 2020 even though it clear he was taking Roe Vs Wade down. Kansas would rather vote for Republicans than Democrats even when the GOP's biggest mission was taking down a right Kansas voters wanted protected by a 59-41 margin in a vacuum.
 

Zorba

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I kind of find the vote chilling myself. Because it's basically telling the Republicans they can do whatever the fuck they want and they'll still get elected by playing up the culture war and being white supremacists. Kansas voted for Trump 56-42 in 2020 even though it clear he was taking Roe Vs Wade down. Kansas would rather vote for Republicans than Democrats even when the GOP's biggest mission was taking down a right Kansas voters wanted protected by a 59-41 margin in a vacuum.
A lot of republicans don't even know what republicans stand for. I've had extremely pro-union mechanics talk me about how Obama was going to destroy unions. My extremely republican aunt and cousins were worried if Hillary won she would get rid of Obamacare.

They basically run on "Dems be Evil" and a ton of their base fills the "evil" part with whatever they want to believe.
 
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SteveGrabowski

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A lot of republicans don't even know what republicans stand for. I've had extremely pro-union mechanics talk me about how Obama was going to destroy unions. My extremely republican aunt and cousins were worried if Hillary won she would get rid of Obamacare.

They basically run on "Dems be Evil" and a ton of their base fills the "evil" part with whatever they want to believe.
Keep your government hands off my Medicare!
 
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