al-Qaida No. 3 Arreested in Pakistan

[1EZduzit]

Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, it's good these people are being captured and, hopefully, good information comes out of them. But, I just wonder if they'll act on it properly. Ressam was giving up reams of info and nothing was done to act on that info prior to 9/11.

I also have a big problem with the propagandizing of these captured terrorists to boost sagging ratings. It's dishonest, at best.

Bush has spent most, if not all of his political capital so he has to use every low down, dirty trick in the book. Just like he did to get re-elected. 🙂 The ironic part is all the lies they tell to make it look like they have the moral high ground.

The dissapointing part is how many people take the lies at face value

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, it's good these people are being captured and, hopefully, good information comes out of them. But, I just wonder if they'll act on it properly. Ressam was giving up reams of info and nothing was done to act on that info prior to 9/11.

I also have a big problem with the propagandizing of these captured terrorists to boost sagging ratings. It's dishonest, at best.

ALL POLITICANS DO IT. clintion did with this scandal and attacking bin laden, and missing, and refusing to send in SF, even though missles failed.

I have no idea what you're talking about there.

 

[shurato]

Originally posted by: rudder

Originally posted by: shurato
Sounds like great news to me. Hopefully they can find OBL for us too since Bush doesn't seem to be too interested in the man lately.

He is mostly a figurehead anyway. I would rather they capture the operational leaders like this no. 3 guy.

Your kidding me right... You would really rather capture the other guys rather than #1 himself OBL? You don't think once we capture one operational leader, another one won't be promoted or recruited to that position? I don't care if he's just a figurehead or if it's just symbolic if we capture the guy... we need to do it. The president used our emotions in 9/11 and our hatred for OBL and his kind to manipulate the American public to approve of his actions in the war on Terror... now Bush is basically saying he's not worried about OBL anymore... that makes me a bit uneasy.

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, it's good these people are being captured and, hopefully, good information comes out of them. But, I just wonder if they'll act on it properly. Ressam was giving up reams of info and nothing was done to act on that info prior to 9/11.

I also have a big problem with the propagandizing of these captured terrorists to boost sagging ratings. It's dishonest, at best.

ALL POLITICANS DO IT. clintion did with this scandal and attacking bin laden, and missing, and refusing to send in SF, even though missles failed.

I have no idea what you're talking about there.

Did you forget about Clinton attacking Iraq during his impeachment?

http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/9609/03/iraq.reax.update/index.html

Some U.S. allies reacted coolly Tuesday to the U.S. missile strike against Iraqi military targets, including France, which said it preferred a "political solution." Britain, Germany and Japan endorsed U.S. President Bill Clinton's decision to use force. Russia and China were critical.

Foreign Minister Yevgeny Primakov accused Clinton of acting to boost his chances of re-election in November. "These strikes will not help anyone, with the exception perhaps of those whose priority is domestic politics," Primakov told a news conference in Bern, Switzerland.

 

[conjur]

Let me get this straight.

1) Clinton didn't do enough to attack Iraq/Saddam/bin Laden *AND*
2) The attacks Clinton *did* do were to remove focus from the Lewinsky scandal.



😕

 

[Yzzim]

Originally posted by: conjur
Let me get this straight.

1) Clinton didn't do enough to attack Iraq/Saddam/bin Laden *AND*
2) The attacks Clinton *did* do were to remove focus from the Lewinsky scandal.



😕

More like:

1) Clinton didn't do enough to attack Iraq/Saddam/bin Laden
2) The little he did do was all politically motivated

 

[conjur]

:roll:

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: conjur
They tracked him down as they've had him on ice for a while. Opportune time for the Propagandist's buddy, Musharraf, to "find" a "leader" of al Qaeda when his poll numbers are collapsing and death and destruction reigns in Iraq. Guess Michael Jackson and Runaway Bride aren't keeping people's attention off the truth enough.

Why is it that every time something positive happens you try to spin a negative light on it or damper the mood for people? Why can't you just accept good news and be happy instead of concocting some asinine conspiracy theory every time?

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: conjur
Just look at the history of these "finds" and "captures". They've always come at opportune moments to boost the Propagandist's ratings or to garner front-page news from something that looks bad upon the administration. They've been doing it from day 1.

Conjur, even YOU can't be this stupid. If YOU caught an alleged high-level leader of your sworn enemy's forces, would you run straight to the media and tell the whole planet? Hell no. You'd keep your damn mouth shut, get what info you could get and act on it as fast as you could before the enemy found out what happened to their guy and changed plans. Only after you've gotten and probably USED all the information that you could possibly get from the guy would you then release the news of his capture publically.

This is a matter of incredibly SIMPLE logic, and you're choosing to avoid the responsibility of THINKING so you can run off on one of your conspiracy theory tirades AGAIN.

THINK a little, please.

Jason

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, it's good these people are being captured and, hopefully, good information comes out of them. But, I just wonder if they'll act on it properly. Ressam was giving up reams of info and nothing was done to act on that info prior to 9/11.

I also have a big problem with the propagandizing of these captured terrorists to boost sagging ratings. It's dishonest, at best.

ALL POLITICANS DO IT. clintion did with this scandal and attacking bin laden, and missing, and refusing to send in SF, even though missles failed.

I have no idea what you're talking about there.

Monica Lewinsky, day after he admitted to affair, attacked into afganistan with crusie missles, or is your politcal memory restricted to the current admin?

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, it's good these people are being captured and, hopefully, good information comes out of them. But, I just wonder if they'll act on it properly. Ressam was giving up reams of info and nothing was done to act on that info prior to 9/11.

I also have a big problem with the propagandizing of these captured terrorists to boost sagging ratings. It's dishonest, at best.

ALL POLITICANS DO IT. clintion did with this scandal and attacking bin laden, and missing, and refusing to send in SF, even though missles failed.

I have no idea what you're talking about there.

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/world/africa/082198attack-us.html

im referring to this, just a day or two after he admitted to his affair, he attacked bin laden just in time, just showing you ALL Politicans do it.....

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: conjur
Just look at the history of these "finds" and "captures". They've always come at opportune moments to boost the Propagandist's ratings or to garner front-page news from something that looks bad upon the administration. They've been doing it from day 1.

Conur, even YOU can't be this stupid. If YOU caught an alleged high-level leader of your sworn enemy's forces, would you run straight to the media and tell the whole planet? Hell no. You'd keep your damn mouth shut, get what info you could get and act on it as fast as you could before the enemy found out what happened to their guy and changed plans. Only after you've gotten and probably USED all the information that you could possibly get from the guy would you then release the news of his capture publically.

This is a matter of incredibly SIMPLE logic, and you're choosing to avoid the responsibility of THINKING so you can run off on one of your conspiracy theory tirades AGAIN.

THINK a little, please.

Jason

thank you,

Conjur doesnt really care what is logically, just what makes him look bad, and what Air Ameirca radio says he should care about

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur

Originally posted by: Deptacon

Originally posted by: conjur
Yes, it's good these people are being captured and, hopefully, good information comes out of them. But, I just wonder if they'll act on it properly. Ressam was giving up reams of info and nothing was done to act on that info prior to 9/11.

I also have a big problem with the propagandizing of these captured terrorists to boost sagging ratings. It's dishonest, at best.

ALL POLITICANS DO IT. clintion did with this scandal and attacking bin laden, and missing, and refusing to send in SF, even though missles failed.

I have no idea what you're talking about there.

http://partners.nytimes.com/library/world/africa/082198attack-us.html

im referring to this, just a day or two after he admitted to his affair, he attacked bin laden just in time, just showing you ALL Politicans do it.....

Guess you didn't notice this part:

Clinton and his national security team linked both sites to Osama bin Laden, the exiled Saudi millionaire tied by U.S. intelligence to the twin bombings on Aug. 7 in Kenya and Tanzania. The bombings killed 12 Americans and nearly 300 Africans.

The dateline of your link? August 21

:roll:

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: conjur
Posts that link to articles showing the correlation between terror alerts and sagging ratings for the Propagandist. Jesus Christ, do you really not read anything?

Perhaps not, but neither do you, so what's the difference? Whether these prisoners are used for political advantage after the fact is near irrelevant. The key issue is that they are captured, kept secretly until they are exhausted of useful information and any and all operations based on that information have been carried out, hopefully with success.

When and how they tell the world they caught the bastard is all but entirely IMMATERIAL.

Jason

 

[conjur]

Was I talking to you in that post? No.


ah heck off.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: conjur
Was I talking to you in that post? No.


ah heck off.

TRANSLATION: I'm not clever enough to think myself out of the logical facts, so I'll stamp my feet! GO away, leave me alone! Waaaaaahhhhhh!!!!!

Jason

 

[conjur]

No, I wasn't talking to you. Your argument is non-sensical and ignores the obvious deception of this administration. You're not much better than a troll.


But, for your edification I'll repeat what I posted in the other thread:



http://juliusblog.blogspot.com/2004_08_...usblog_archive.html#109156476570482138

Biltud, from Salon.com's TableTalk, posted a few days ago a series of correlations between past terror alerts and political events unfavorable to the Bush administration. I compiled all these correlations and organized them chronologically into a timeline. I also added additional news items and other instances that I found out, detailing the terror alerts over the last few years, and located the original sources for many of these news articles. Soon, Biltud and I started to research together all these occurrences, and more interesting "coincidences" started to appear. We finally built this timeline of terror alerts and how they relate to the news headlines of the days immediately prior to that very alert. I think it's very easy to see a pattern recurring (Text in blue marks the original notes by Biltud. Text and sources in black are my additions):

I'd long wondered what news events or key dates were met with terror alerts that resulted in a rise in Bush's approval ratings (keep them afraid...sell that terror...sell that fear!) This site has apparently put a lot of research into the "coincidences" of bad news for Bush and terror alerts.

A nice chart:
http://img70.exs.cx/my.php?loc=img70&image=aproval_vs_alert_chart_NEW.gif

There are few things that are quite evident from the chart:

- Whenever his ratings dip, there's a new terror alert.

- Every terror alert is followed by a slight uptick of Bush approval ratings.

- Whenever there are many unfavorable headlines, there's another alert or announcement (distraction effect).

- As we approach the 2004 elections, the number and frequency of terror alerts keeps growing, to the point that they collapse in the graphic. At the same time, Bush ratings are lower than ever.

 

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: irwincur
Damn war on terror. I can't believe that Bush would dare to arrest someone and allow Pakistan to hold him.

We should bring him here and free him on bond. That would be the right thing to do.

I assume you are being facetious 🙂

Jason

 

[MCWAR]

Originally posted by: conjur
Just look at the history of these "finds" and "captures". They've always come at opportune moments to boost the Propagandist's ratings or to garner front-page news from something that looks bad upon the administration. They've been doing it from day 1.

Dude please!
If Bush were even a third of the schemer you make him out to be dont you think he would have planted somthing WMD like over there a long time ago to justify this whole effort? Then he would not have to go through all this politcal bullshite slinging and political dammage.
Give us a break from your conjured up crap please!

 

[conjur]

See my edited post above, MCWAR. Your beloved President is engaging in pure propaganda and you've fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.

 

[MiniDoom]

Originally posted by: MCWAR

Originally posted by: conjur
Just look at the history of these "finds" and "captures". They've always come at opportune moments to boost the Propagandist's ratings or to garner front-page news from something that looks bad upon the administration. They've been doing it from day 1.

Dude please!
If Bush were even a third of the schemer you make him out to be dont you think he would have planted somthing WMD like over there a long time ago to justify this whole effort? Then he would not have to go through all this politcal bullshite slinging and political dammage.
Give us a break from your conjured up crap please!

Yeah I think some of you need another layer of tin-foil around your head.😉

 

[MCWAR]

Originally posted by: conjur
See my edited post above, MCWAR. Your beloved President is engaging in pure propaganda and you've fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.

Excuse me, but it is you madam who have fallen hook, line and sinker for the kook left wing version of the black helicopter crowd.

 

[Deptacon]

Originally posted by: conjur
See my edited post above, MCWAR. Your beloved President is engaging in pure propaganda and you've fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.

dude you act like bush is the only one who plays these political games...please....everyon president has, and everyone after him will as well....

 

[yllus]

Whoa, operations commander? That's awesome.

One of the officials said 11 more terror suspects ? including three Uzbeks, an Afghan and seven Pakistanis ? were arrested before dawn Wednesday in the Bajor tribal region. The official would not say what prompted authorities to launch the raid or whether it was linked to al-Libbi?s capture.

The benefits of keeping quiet and pumping a new arrest for information while it's fresh. :thumbsup:

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: MCWAR

Originally posted by: conjur
See my edited post above, MCWAR. Your beloved President is engaging in pure propaganda and you've fallen for it hook, line, and sinker.

Excuse me, but it is you madam who have fallen hook, line and sinker for the kook left wing version of the black helicopter crowd.

mmm hmmm

You Bush-God fanbois will hold him accountable for nothing, will you?