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al-Qaida No. 3 Arreested in Pakistan
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DragonMasterAlex
Banned
No, you *ARE* a troll. My argument makes PERFECT, FLAWLESS sense, yours makes NONE. You prove once again that you are in fact an intellectual GNAT, and make it clear why no one takes you seriously. While there are PLENTY of legitimate reasons to loathe Bush you go to such an irrational, absurd extreme that you try to find ways to blame or accuse the fool of being behind EVERYTHING that goes wrong and being the architect of an *EXTRAORDINARY* number of conspiracies that make little to no sense.
Tell you what: Go get yourself some nice, cold milk and some cookies, several season DVD sets of the X-Files, sit down on the couch and go to town. There's a world for people like you and it's not this one.
Jason
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
Yes, and YOU never, ever engage in propaganda, do you? Oh, except for days ending in "Y".
Bush is a bad president, no question about it, but the extraordinary lengths you go to to conjur up baloney conspiracy theories is absurd. For one thing, Bush isn't SMART ENOUGH to carry off all the conspiracies you claim. For another, he'd have to the WHOLE of the government, the military, all the Republicans in Congress and most, if not all of the Democrats to boot.
There IS someone in this thread not making sense: YOU. There IS someone in this thread leading it off topic: YOU.
Go curl up with some X Files episodes and masturbate your handful of brain cells some more.
Jason
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
Actually I didn't see the link until a few minutes ago. Regardless, your claims are absurd, just as you yourself are absurd. Is it likely that a president--ANY president--releases such information to be helpful? Sure it's likely. It's also ROUTINE and done by EVERY president, regardless of Party. You can fantasize that Democrats are noble and honest if you like, but it remains just that: A fantasy.
The IMPORTANT thing here is that this bastard was caught and held in secret for awhile whilst information was extracted and used to HELP OUR FORCES accomplish their mission while at the same time reducing some of the margins for error and injuries/deaths for our guys.
Kudos to those who captured him and got any info out of him. If others benefit politically after the fact, so be it. It's not "conspiracy", it's *standard operating procedure*. Such is the life of a politician. Duh.
Jason
We don't know this guy was held in secret. The article says the arrests just occurred. My guess is, though, that they've either had them in custody ready to spring them when it was opportune or they've been monitoring them and waiting for the politically-expedient time to actually arrest him.
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
Yes, I'm so blindly loyal to Bush that I CONSTANTLY criticize him for legitimate issues like his failure to protect our borders, his extraordinary spending on fluff programs during wartime, his cowardice toward Mexico, his lack of support for those who uphold the law and so on and so forth. I criticize Bush ALL THE TIME for his FAILINGS, which are numerous. That's not what you are doing. YOU are going OUT OF YOUR WAY to come up with reasons why EVERYTHING that goes wrong in the world is directly linked to Bush or how every announcement, accomplishment, success, failure, truth, falsehood, life or death is somehow a conspiracy orchestrated by Bush and his apparently infinite supply of super-loyal cronies.
I have NO LOYALTY to Bush and you can't *begin* to imagine how much I wish we had someone else as our president, but that doesn't mean that I can legitimately go out of my way to make up stories and come up with the whacked-out stories that you do. You aren't presenting as a legitimate critic of Bush's policies and practices, you're presenting as a NUT who's clearly long since the point of CRACKING.
Jason
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
No, we don't know conclusively that they've had him held for some time, but it's reasonable to believe that's the case. Whether it's politically expedient to tell the world about it right now is immaterial. The RELEVANT issue, as I've said before and you've ignored, is that he's been CAUGHT and either will or *has* provided some useful information to our side. Even if he HASN'T provided useful intel (which is unlikely) we've STILL managed to take away one of the enemy's top guys, and that's an accomplishment worth being happy over.
Jason
I won't be happy until bin Laden has been caught and/or killed. But, this administration isn't worried about him.
In fact, his involvement in 9/11 isn't even worthy of the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist list:
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/terubl.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
Guess who else isn't on there? The Phantom: Zarqawi
In fact, his involvement in 9/11 isn't even worthy of the FBI's Most Wanted Terrorist list:
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/terrorists/terubl.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/mostwant/topten/fugitives/laden.htm
Guess who else isn't on there? The Phantom: Zarqawi
How much on the list is international?
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
Ah, so if bin Laden is caught and/or killed but thousands of his followers remain on the loose, you'll be happy with that, eh?
bin Laden is *very* important, and I share your disgust with Bush's comments that Osama isn't all that important. At the same time, it's important and HONEST to recognize that capturing or killing Osama *alone* isn't going to do the trick. His followers have to be caught, killed, beaten into a bloody, quivering mass before the world and it's potentially terrorist-minded people will get just how serious this is.
Jason
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
Usama IS on the list
No, it doesn't specifically mention 9/11 on his sheet, but he's in the FIRST position on the Terrorist Most Wanted page.
Jason
DragonMasterAlex
Banned
They have a terror list and a most wanted list. Looks like he is on both.
conjur - have some caffene before posting please.
conjur - have some caffene before posting please.
Conjur:
Don't even bother getting into matches against Genx87 or Deptacon.
They dont know the first thing about South Asian politics or the dirty games Musharraf plays. Let them be ignorant to it.
Proceed to have discussions with those that actually know anything about the region.
You are absolutely correct in your statement that this is another dirty political move.
Don't even bother getting into matches against Genx87 or Deptacon.
They dont know the first thing about South Asian politics or the dirty games Musharraf plays. Let them be ignorant to it.
Proceed to have discussions with those that actually know anything about the region.
You are absolutely correct in your statement that this is another dirty political move.
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