Aieeee Bobby Gindall is trying too hard

[Harvey]

It was obvious Jindal and/or his Republican toady speech writers didn't have a clue what Obama was going to say. The speech, itself, was completely non-responsive to Obama's, and in some ways, it seemed to try to attack Obama as if he'd said exactly the opposite of what he actually said.

Originally posted by: GroundedSailor

If Jindal / Steele / Palin are the new face of the GOP then Republican better start worrying.

If Jindal / Steele / Palin are the new face of the GOP, there will be a burgeoning market for palms to go with that face.

Originally posted by: JD50

Originally posted by: Skoorb

http://video.nytimes.com/video...publican-response.html

OK. Holy fvck. I watched about 90 seconds and that's quite enough. Is this a guest speaker for Reading Rainbow or something? No grown adult who doesn't wear diapers and eat glue could find that a good speech.

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+ another 1 :thumbsup:

 

[Zebo]

Republicans are so lost and tone deaf right now it's not even funny.

As most of you know I don't care who is in power as they are the same when it comes down to brass tacks but if the Republican party is ever to regain power they must actually stand for the people. In their own way is fine, but in some way other than low taxes low taxes low taxes.

Perhaps he should have pushed their law and order appeal. Republicans never saw a prison they didnt like so he could have talked about:

- jailing bankers who lied to buyers on so-called "AAA" securities about the diligence they did before packageing them.
- jailing brokers who doctored paperwork
- going after these guys hiding money in offshore accounts

etc

Until they get a clue they will remain on the outside.

 

[ayabe]

Rush says he's awesome, and anyone who doesn't think so is no longer in the club:

LIMBAUGH: [T]he people on our side are really making a mistake if they go after Bobby Jindal on the basis of style. Because if you think ? people on our side I?m talking to you ? those of you who think Jindal was horrible, you think ? in fact, I don?t ever want to hear from you ever again. ? I?ve spoken to him numerous times, he?s brilliant. He?s the real deal.


I don't get Limbaugh's angle here, defending mediocrity is not going to get the R's going.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Rush says he's awesome, and anyone who doesn't think so is no longer in the club:

LIMBAUGH: [T]he people on our side are really making a mistake if they go after Bobby Jindal on the basis of style. Because if you think ? people on our side I?m talking to you ? those of you who think Jindal was horrible, you think ? in fact, I don?t ever want to hear from you ever again. ? I?ve spoken to him numerous times, he?s brilliant. He?s the real deal.


I don't get Limbaugh's angle here, defending mediocrity is not going to get the R's going.

The R's don't want to go get on Rush's bad side as his bad side is awfully large and also happens to be where his asshole is..or is that his mouth. Kind of hard to tell which one is which as they both spew noxious gas.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: kef7
Did the body snatchers get hold of him or what?

Compared to how he sounded last Sundy morning on Meet the Press it's like there is two different versions of him; smooth and polished and gee golly down on the farm.

This is what I was thinking. But remember Obama didn't do so hot in his first several debate appearences. This was Jindal's first speech to the nation. Course Obama in 04 kinda hit that one out of the park, but his is a rare oratory capability. Still, compared to Sunday I don't know who this geeky weird high-pitched folksy inflected golly-gee-willackers hick came from. I think Seth Myers needs to do a "Really?!" for the Rep response.

But don't forget the horrifying Dem response from Gov Sebelius last year. Zombie/hypnotic. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22888366/

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: ayabe
Rush says he's awesome, and anyone who doesn't think so is no longer in the club:

LIMBAUGH: [T]he people on our side are really making a mistake if they go after Bobby Jindal on the basis of style. Because if you think ? people on our side I?m talking to you ? those of you who think Jindal was horrible, you think ? in fact, I don?t ever want to hear from you ever again. ? I?ve spoken to him numerous times, he?s brilliant. He?s the real deal.


I don't get Limbaugh's angle here, defending mediocrity is not going to get the R's going.

Have you been listening to Rush for the past howevermany years? He promotes Republicans tooth and nail, to the death, up until they fail in an election. He then proclaims that he never liked them anyway, that they failed because they weren't conservative enough, and that he's through propping up these fakers.

He then finds a new group of Republicans, (or in some cases the same old ones) and starts the cycle all over again. As a testament to the intelligence of his listeners, nobody seems to notice.

 

[sammyunltd]

Okay, Jindal got owned by MSNBC, but that was to be expected.

Now to be called out by FoxNews, OUCH, that's bad...

MSNBC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkEBtpcIVE4
FoxNews (watch from 1:15): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAXvnJ972RE

 

[CitizenKain]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
This guy sounds like a fucking moron. He's talking down to us and coming up with some "you can do it" bullshit. Come on man, tax breaks for housing? Is that all you've got? That doesn't do jack shit.

Yet he's the governor of a state and you aren't.

He got into Harvard Med and Yale Law Schools, and was a Rhodes Scholar.


I guess he should have been a community organizer instead.

Yet believes in intelligent design and thinks exorcisms are real.

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Jindal came off like a condescending jackass. His stupid little stories merely sealed the deal. While I agree that Americans are a great industrious people, the concept that "Americans can do anything" comes across like an empty campaign slogan that doesn't begin to make sense within the current economic context. The public at-large is going to fix our broken banking system and restart lending? The people are going to fix unemployment? The people are going to reduce the deficit? Is Jindal high? Or just delusional? The American people as a whole can do a lot of things, but there are some problems that are greater than us all.

Yes we can?

It's hard to say that "Yes we can" is an empty slogan...after all;

Yes...he DID. (get elected of course, which is the purpose of a campaign slogan after all no?)

so "yes we can" only meant "yes we can elect obama" and not "yes we can reform america, institute change...etc, etc."?

seems convenient to attribute it merely as a campaign slogan. but obfuscate as your heart desires.

 

[DealMonkey]

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
This guy sounds like a fucking moron. He's talking down to us and coming up with some "you can do it" bullshit. Come on man, tax breaks for housing? Is that all you've got? That doesn't do jack shit.

Yet he's the governor of a state and you aren't.

He got into Harvard Med and Yale Law Schools, and was a Rhodes Scholar.


I guess he should have been a community organizer instead.

Yet believes in intelligent design and thinks exorcisms are real.

Which immediately places Jindal in the "moron" category. :roll:

He's also a ginormous hypocrite, objecting to and criticizing the stim plan as "irresponsible" and yet accepting over $3.7 billion of the planned $3.8 billion for his state.

 

[yllus]

Er, I don't usually pay much attention the U.S. state governors, but come on, really? He sounded like he was speaking before a gathering of kindergartners.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Okay, Jindal got owned by MSNBC, but that was to be expected.

Now to be called out by FoxNews, OUCH, that's bad...

MSNBC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkEBtpcIVE4
FoxNews (watch from 1:15): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAXvnJ972RE

lmao all the fox people look depressed lulz ohh man this shit should be a movie.

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Jindal came off like a condescending jackass. His stupid little stories merely sealed the deal. While I agree that Americans are a great industrious people, the concept that "Americans can do anything" comes across like an empty campaign slogan that doesn't begin to make sense within the current economic context. The public at-large is going to fix our broken banking system and restart lending? The people are going to fix unemployment? The people are going to reduce the deficit? Is Jindal high? Or just delusional? The American people as a whole can do a lot of things, but there are some problems that are greater than us all.

Yes we can?

It's hard to say that "Yes we can" is an empty slogan...after all;

Yes...he DID. (get elected of course, which is the purpose of a campaign slogan after all no?)

so "yes we can" only meant "yes we can elect obama" and not "yes we can reform america, institute change...etc, etc."?

seems convenient to attribute it merely as a campaign slogan. but obfuscate as your heart desires.

well, we WERE talking about campaign slogans weren't we? There is no need for obfusication. I'm reading/responding to exactly what was written, and what was quoted/bolded. If anything we are interpreting the slogans differently.

I guess maybe you think the campaign slogan, "Yes we can" was "empty?" if so, why do you think that? Was it not successful? Or maybe you already determined in your mind:

"No we can't" or maybe "No we couldn't" ??

Or maybe what we are talking about here is simply a difference in interpretations...In which case feel free to believe what you want about campaign slogans. Whether they were effective for you or not in your mind I guess ultimately I really don't care and I am sorry for derailing the thread

I just find it hard to understand how his 'campaign slogan' (Per your bold above) is "empty" when in fact it worked out pretty well. He did win the Presidency after all.

imho an example of an empty campaign slogan would be: "Country First"

 

[OrByte]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Okay, Jindal got owned by MSNBC, but that was to be expected.

Now to be called out by FoxNews, OUCH, that's bad...

MSNBC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkEBtpcIVE4
FoxNews (watch from 1:15): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAXvnJ972RE

lmao all the fox people look depressed lulz ohh man this shit should be a movie.

I was thinking the first commentator (big old guy I dont know his name nor do I care to) was going to reach down under the commentator table, grab a pistol, and swallow a bullet! Damn did he look depressed!

 

[wkabel23]

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: wkabel23

Originally posted by: DealMonkey
Jindal came off like a condescending jackass. His stupid little stories merely sealed the deal. While I agree that Americans are a great industrious people, the concept that "Americans can do anything" comes across like an empty campaign slogan that doesn't begin to make sense within the current economic context. The public at-large is going to fix our broken banking system and restart lending? The people are going to fix unemployment? The people are going to reduce the deficit? Is Jindal high? Or just delusional? The American people as a whole can do a lot of things, but there are some problems that are greater than us all.

Yes we can?

It's hard to say that "Yes we can" is an empty slogan...after all;

Yes...he DID. (get elected of course, which is the purpose of a campaign slogan after all no?)

so "yes we can" only meant "yes we can elect obama" and not "yes we can reform america, institute change...etc, etc."?

seems convenient to attribute it merely as a campaign slogan. but obfuscate as your heart desires.

well, we WERE talking about campaign slogans weren't we? There is no need for obfusication. I'm reading/responding to exactly what was written, and what was quoted/bolded. If anything we are interpreting the slogans differently.

I guess maybe you think the campaign slogan, "Yes we can" was "empty?" if so, why do you think that? Was it not successful? Or maybe you already determined in your mind:

"No we can't" or maybe "No we couldn't" ??

Or maybe what we are talking about here is simply a difference in interpretations...In which case feel free to believe what you want about campaign slogans. Whether they were effective for you or not in your mind I guess ultimately I really don't care and I am sorry for derailing the thread

I just find it hard to understand how his 'campaign slogan' (Per your bold above) is "empty" when in fact it worked out pretty well. He did win the Presidency after all.

imho an example of an empty campaign slogan would be: "Country First"

I suppose we are significantly off topic at this point, but.......who cares

DealMonkey said the concept of "Americans can do anything" comes across as an empty campaign slogan. I responded with a "yes we can" because the message in the 2 slogans is essentially the same, but one is being labeled as an empty because it was said by a republican. I have always been wary of Obama's slogans due to their populist nature. So, yes we can elect Obama, but can we do anything else? Will the Obama administration conform to the standard Washington BS and not really get anything, or any change, accomplished? I truly hope Obama can move past harmful partisanship and institute the real change he wants. Will he succeed? I doubt it...I guess that's why I think his campaign slogan is empty.

His slogan worked out well in the sense that it got him elected. But, do we hold him accountable for his slogans/campaign promises? Do we expect nothing from a candidate once elected? I submit that Obama's slogan was so effective because people expected/wanted/hoped for him to bring his "Yes we can" attitude into D.C. I suppose we have not had enough time to judge Obama against his campaign promises, but I am skeptical of his ability to institute any meaningful change in American politics. And therein is our difference in interpretations.

As for "Country First," you are determining what is and isn't empty based on the party/person it came from. That is empty!

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: OrByte

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: sammyunltd
Okay, Jindal got owned by MSNBC, but that was to be expected.

Now to be called out by FoxNews, OUCH, that's bad...

MSNBC: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkEBtpcIVE4
FoxNews (watch from 1:15): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAXvnJ972RE

lmao all the fox people look depressed lulz ohh man this shit should be a movie.

I was thinking the first commentator (big old guy I dont know his name nor do I care to) was going to reach down under the commentator table, grab a pistol, and swallow a bullet! Damn did he look depressed!

That's Brit Hume, he actually always looks and sounds like that. I'm sure he was depressed though, as he's a hard right political pundit. (of course this becomes doubly funny as he also anchors their flagship news program.)

 

[imported_inspire]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
You know, he did make a few good points, however, I for one would shudder if the federal government were run like anything remotely similar to the Louisiana government. Screw that.

I see where you're comign from there, but many of his points drew on experiences he had in cleaning up the Louisiana government. At the state level, he's made a great deal of progress towards this end in a very limited amount of time.

 

[Dari]

Thanks for the links, guys. But I couldn't watch it after 30 seconds. I felt like I was in kindergarten all over again. Back to the drawing board for Republicans.

 

[imported_inspire]

Originally posted by: crisscross
It would be a sad day for America and indeed the world if Jindal ever becomes President.

I completely disagree. This guy has demonstrated an ability to get things done while remaining fiscally conservative. Yeah, he bombed on the delivery here - but he had a lot of good points to present.

Charisma and likability are ancillary qualities of a president.

 

[imported_inspire]

Originally posted by: DealMonkey

Originally posted by: CitizenKain

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: LegendKiller
This guy sounds like a fucking moron. He's talking down to us and coming up with some "you can do it" bullshit. Come on man, tax breaks for housing? Is that all you've got? That doesn't do jack shit.

Yet he's the governor of a state and you aren't.

He got into Harvard Med and Yale Law Schools, and was a Rhodes Scholar.


I guess he should have been a community organizer instead.

Yet believes in intelligent design and thinks exorcisms are real.

Which immediately places Jindal in the "moron" category. :roll:

He's also a ginormous hypocrite, objecting to and criticizing the stim plan as "irresponsible" and yet accepting over $3.7 billion of the planned $3.8 billion for his state.

He's done more for the state of Louisiana than any of the prior countless Democratic governors. And let's get real - I'm sure I can find something that you do that seems pretty stupid to most people - does that mean you're an idiot? Incompetent? That you can't do your job? No. Such snap-judgements are puerile.

 

[wkabel23]

Personally, I thought that his speech was fine. I enjoyed the anecdotes about a son being taught the responsibilities of life by his father. Then again, this was the first time I had heard Jindal so maybe he did not have his best showing.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: wkabel23
Personally, I thought that his speech was fine. I enjoyed the anecdotes about a son being taught the responsibilities of life by his father. Then again, this was the first time I had heard Jindal so maybe he did not have his best showing.

Hey I enjoyed it too but for different reasons.

 

[Pepsei]

wow, call me surprised, i was hoping for a good speech from him, so i thought maybe i should read the reviews on freerepublic.... even some people are bashing his performance there.

 

[dbk]

I just watched the response again.

I also saw him on Meet the Press and he didn't sound anything like that ... so why?
Makes no sense why he sounded like Mr. Rogers/Kenneth the Page - the way he voice kept going up and down.
What was his motivation behind that?

I've never heard of people doing that due to nerves.
At first, I chuckled but now it's a little disturbing.

 

[crisscross]

Originally posted by: inspire

Originally posted by: crisscross
It would be a sad day for America and indeed the world if Jindal ever becomes President.

I completely disagree. This guy has demonstrated an ability to get things done while remaining fiscally conservative. Yeah, he bombed on the delivery here - but he had a lot of good points to present.

Charisma and likability are ancillary qualities of a president.

He is a a hypocrite who would sell his mother if it helped him get ahead. He shook off his Indian roots to be accepted in Louisiana but has no problem telling Indian Americans that they should fund him because of his "Indian roots".