Hmm, it sounds like anyone with an uzi can single-handedly take over Czar's magical land.
And who cares if he is deaf? You see a cop with a gun drawn and you come at him with a rake, well then you're goddamn dumb, pretty much asking to be shot. The life of a police officer is way more valuable than the life of some crazed rake-toting lunatic.
And who cares if he is deaf? You see a cop with a gun drawn and you come at him with a rake, well then you're goddamn dumb, pretty much asking to be shot. The life of a police officer is way more valuable than the life of some crazed rake-toting lunatic.
I have found that the police often make bad situations much worse and cause things to escalate. This whole situation could have probably been avoided with properly trained officers. I really doubt someone needed to lose their life.
Now my vote is still for the cop from the current evidence. However, http://detnews.com/2000/metro/0009/06/a01-116095.htm definetely puts a little different light on it. One thing I found especially interesting was that the cop was the second or third cop on the scene and shot the man twice in the left side in order to protect another cop. According to the cop, he did not use pepper spray because he was about 15 feet away from the suspect. (Pepper spray is only good for 5-7 feet.) Currently, prosecuters are investigating to determine if any further action should be taken against the cop.
Czar, just to let you know, this is how we do things in the US. A cop shoots a person for whatever reason and then it is investigated to see if it is justified. If it isn't, he will be prosecuted. For anybody to say right off the bat with out all of the evidence that this is a case of police brutality shows just how ignorant and self absorbed that person is. People like them are the ones we need to be afraid of. Boy I'm glad you don't live in this country. To bad we still have Red Dawn in this country but that's the price that comes with democracy.
Czar, just to let you know, this is how we do things in the US. A cop shoots a person for whatever reason and then it is investigated to see if it is justified. If it isn't, he will be prosecuted. For anybody to say right off the bat with out all of the evidence that this is a case of police brutality shows just how ignorant and self absorbed that person is. People like them are the ones we need to be afraid of. Boy I'm glad you don't live in this country. To bad we still have Red Dawn in this country but that's the price that comes with democracy.
But no way in hell should this guy have been shot to death for waving a rake at that cop. The COP should be tried and found guilty of manslaughter and sent to prison with all the other criminals (if the the description of the incident is accurate).
My reason in saying that citizens of this country need to be afraid of sentiments like the one above is the fact that you are passing judgement on this person. This is were lynch mobs come from. The phrase above is the type of phrase that can incite people into taking action into their own hands. Admittedly, in my first reading I did miss your qualifier at the end of your statment.
Do you want the truth kept quiet so you and your type can do as they please and step all over other's rights?
No, that is the whole reason I am speaking out against anybody that says he is guilty. Our whole judicial system is set up so that the truth can come out. The only way that it works though, is if all of the evidence that can be collected is collected, and then based on that evidence, letting a jury of his peers deduce what the truth is. The cop in this case has rights as well. By saying he is guilty, you yourself are stepping on his rights.
My reason in saying that citizens of this country need to be afraid of sentiments like the one above is the fact that you are passing judgement on this person. This is were lynch mobs come from. The phrase above is the type of phrase that can incite people into taking action into their own hands. Admittedly, in my first reading I did miss your qualifier at the end of your statment.
Do you want the truth kept quiet so you and your type can do as they please and step all over other's rights?
No, that is the whole reason I am speaking out against anybody that says he is guilty. Our whole judicial system is set up so that the truth can come out. The only way that it works though, is if all of the evidence that can be collected is collected, and then based on that evidence, letting a jury of his peers deduce what the truth is. The cop in this case has rights as well. By saying he is guilty, you yourself are stepping on his rights.
It's possible that this situation could have been resolved without anybody losing their lives, but the cop did what he did. Maybe it wasn't the best thing to do, but obviously to him it seemed like it.
I'm not going to "take a side" here, I don't think that's a good idea. Think I'll stay neutral on this one.
Red Dawn: LMAO!!
I'm not going to "take a side" here, I don't think that's a good idea. Think I'll stay neutral on this one.
Red Dawn: LMAO!!
How can he be held to the same laws as an ordinary citizen in this situation? He was there to protect the peace, and we have no reason to assume that his intentions were anything other than good. At worst he should lose his badge, I see no point in prosecuting him.
Cops are human too, they aren't perfect. Given how hard their job is, and the fact that they get very little respect, I don't think it's right to jump in and prosecture over what was, at worse a mishandled situation. Only something blatantly wrong warrants that.
Red Dawn, so you would rather the cop died instead of the guy who threatens his parent with a knife, is brandishing a metal-toothed rake and is unresponsive to police orders? Isn't it pretty basic that when an officer's life is in danger, he should protect himself or his fellow officers.
Does your mother know you are so stupid?
Oh, um, yeah. Good one...
Does your mother know you are so stupid?
Oh, um, yeah. Good one...
I'll remember all this the next time someone waves a rake or a broom or a shoe at me. Will you guys show the same affection and understanding towards me if i pop a few rounds in your brothers or mothers chest for waiving something at me?
That cop should be sent to prison. He outright murdered that man.
For christ sake... he had a fscking rake!!! Anyone can defend themselves from a damn rake. If someone starts to swing, you just move in close and grab the shaft of the rake and punch the guy in the face. There was absolutly no reason for the man to be killed.
He was probably just raised by a bunch of racist parents and decided to kill the guy cause he was black, and said he was defending himself.
For christ sake... he had a fscking rake!!! Anyone can defend themselves from a damn rake. If someone starts to swing, you just move in close and grab the shaft of the rake and punch the guy in the face. There was absolutly no reason for the man to be killed.
He was probably just raised by a bunch of racist parents and decided to kill the guy cause he was black, and said he was defending himself.
He was probably just raised by a bunch of racist parents and decided to kill the guy cause he was black, and said he was defending himself.
Sounds like you're pretty racist yourself.
And no, it's no easy to subdue someone wielding a 4ft stick with metal prongs on the end.
Sounds like you're pretty racist yourself.
And no, it's no easy to subdue someone wielding a 4ft stick with metal prongs on the end.
Why are you making racist comments then? If the cop was black and the guy with the rake was white would you have said what you said? Of course not!
How is what I said racist? I simply stated something that could very easily be fact. You cant tell me that there arent parents who still try to teach their kids that white people are better than black people, or vice versa.
EngineNr9
I just saw that you editied your post. Just so you know, I'm not black, and would not change my thinking if the cop had been black and the man who was MURDERED was white.
I just saw that you editied your post. Just so you know, I'm not black, and would not change my thinking if the cop had been black and the man who was MURDERED was white.
Hey Stephan,
I bet I could level you with a rake. Even if I couldn't, I know a few people that would woop some ass on me or you, or both of us combined and not even break a sweat. Personally, I don't know how effective this guy could have been with a rake, and I'm pretty sure none of the cops knew either. I rake can be a deadly weapon in the right hands.
Oh yeah, would you believe that swinging a rake is not the only way to use a rake as a weapon. A well placed jab would do major damage to a person as well.
Last question for you Stephan,
Do you have something your basing your accusation that the cop was raised by a bunch of racist parents and decided to kill the guy cause he was black on or are you just pulling that out of your ass?
I bet I could level you with a rake. Even if I couldn't, I know a few people that would woop some ass on me or you, or both of us combined and not even break a sweat. Personally, I don't know how effective this guy could have been with a rake, and I'm pretty sure none of the cops knew either. I rake can be a deadly weapon in the right hands.
Oh yeah, would you believe that swinging a rake is not the only way to use a rake as a weapon. A well placed jab would do major damage to a person as well.
Last question for you Stephan,
Do you have something your basing your accusation that the cop was raised by a bunch of racist parents and decided to kill the guy cause he was black on or are you just pulling that out of your ass?
Maybe aliens are told the cop to kill this guy, or maybe it's all part of a vast CIA conspiracy against people who own rakes.
You have no basis for calling this cop racist. If the races were reversed this wouldn't be an issue at all. In fact, as other people mentioned, it wouldn't be suprising if the media portrayed the rake man as racist.
If you don't like being called 'racist' then why do you use that word so loosely on other people?
You have no basis for calling this cop racist. If the races were reversed this wouldn't be an issue at all. In fact, as other people mentioned, it wouldn't be suprising if the media portrayed the rake man as racist.
If you don't like being called 'racist' then why do you use that word so loosely on other people?
It's all a matter of how you perceived this as happening. If the officer's life wasn't in danger then he was dead wrong. If it was, then he had every right to shoot the man. None of us were there so we have no way of knowing for sure, but it seems to me that it is very possible for someone with a rake to kill another person. You have to remember he threatened his parent with a knife and the cop probably knows that he is unstable. He isn't an ordinary gardener, that's for sure..
Lurch
I have no doubt that there very well could be someone who is effective in the art of rake fighting, but I can guarentee you that 99% of people dont know how to be effective with a rake.
If the guy was using the kind of rake I believe he was using, its not possible to hurt someone by 'jab'. Your only gonna get hurt by a swing.
Also, I never said that he was racist, I stated that it possibly could be true. Can you prove it otherwise? Do you not remember the beating of the black man who was beaten by like 10 cops in Philly a little while ago?
EngineNr9
<< If the races were reversed this wouldn't be an issue at all >>
Are you joking, or are you just stupid? The fact is, a man was murdered by a police officer. I am not a racist in any way, shape or form. I cannot prove that the cop is racist or that this incident had anything to do with people of different races, nor can you in anyway disprove that this could be race related.
I have no doubt that there very well could be someone who is effective in the art of rake fighting, but I can guarentee you that 99% of people dont know how to be effective with a rake.
If the guy was using the kind of rake I believe he was using, its not possible to hurt someone by 'jab'. Your only gonna get hurt by a swing.
Also, I never said that he was racist, I stated that it possibly could be true. Can you prove it otherwise? Do you not remember the beating of the black man who was beaten by like 10 cops in Philly a little while ago?
EngineNr9
<< If the races were reversed this wouldn't be an issue at all >>
Are you joking, or are you just stupid? The fact is, a man was murdered by a police officer. I am not a racist in any way, shape or form. I cannot prove that the cop is racist or that this incident had anything to do with people of different races, nor can you in anyway disprove that this could be race related.
Cripes...
Why does everyone spell my name Stephan????
My handle clearly indicates the presence of an F!
STEFAN!!!
Why does everyone spell my name Stephan????
My handle clearly indicates the presence of an F!
STEFAN!!!
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