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Borealis7

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Am I crazy or are trebuchets really OP? Huge range, no damage decay with range, resistant to ranged attacks, easy and cheap to build... I'm thinking of ditching my archers and longbowmen for trebuchets in all my armies.
they are strong but not without faults. for instance there are things with Extreme range (opposed to Trebuchet's Long range) such as Horned Gods and Lightning Rod (basically the same ability as Horned Gods).
i noticed the AI is more likely to come out of his walls when trebuchets are present too.

i prefer the Stone Giants, they throw Boulders just like a trebuchet, but have far more HP and can hit melee.
 

xantub

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they are strong but not without faults. for instance there are things with Extreme range (opposed to Trebuchet's Long range) such as Horned Gods and Lightning Rod (basically the same ability as Horned Gods).
i noticed the AI is more likely to come out of his walls when trebuchets are present too.

i prefer the Stone Giants, they throw Boulders just like a trebuchet, but have far more HP and can hit melee.
yes but trebuchets can be built in like the first 5 turns, they're T2. If they were T3 then yes, maybe comparable, but right now they're a no-brainer to me.
 

shortylickens

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Am still stuck on the 2nd campaign mission.

Game is tough. Get so tired of failing over and over again.
 

xantub

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Am still stuck on the 2nd campaign mission.

Game is tough. Get so tired of failing over and over again.
2nd campaign mission? I don't remember having any issues until I think the 4th one, what's your problem there? Well I am playing in normal difficulty (in the elves campaign, unless you're playing the humans campaign?).
 

Borealis7

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2nd mission...IIRC, you have to bum-rush the first goblin castle to the west of your starting point or you won't survive for long. go on the path, pick up Nomlik, and storm the goblin castle. that would be your launch point for furthur ventures into the west where the real action begins ;)

research heavy into the Summon spells, once you get Summon Horned God it's like "lol, gg."
 

xantub

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2nd mission...IIRC, you have to bum-rush the first goblin castle to the west of your starting point or you won't survive for long. go on the path, pick up Nomlik, and storm the goblin castle. that would be your launch point for furthur ventures into the west where the real action begins ;)

research heavy into the Summon spells, once you get Summon Horned God it's like "lol, gg."
hmm... never got that far in research myself. I did probably go west like you said, got the town and just built my armies. Didn't even build tier 3 units just a bunch of dart throwers and draconian low level things if I remember correctly, didn't have a problem.

One thing I don't do is stray from the paths with my main armies. I don't go exploring with the main army to see if I find a chest because, in those turns you use to explore, the enemy has several towns and is building stuff in each so the longer you take, the harder it'll be. Just go for the towns with your armies and when you can, research and summon your 'scout' flying units (crows, cherubs, etc) and let them uncover the map and grab the 'shinies' while your main armies go for the towns.
 
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shortylickens

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2nd mission...IIRC, you have to bum-rush the first goblin castle to the west of your starting point or you won't survive for long. go on the path, pick up Nomlik, and storm the goblin castle. that would be your launch point for furthur ventures into the west where the real action begins ;)

research heavy into the Summon spells, once you get Summon Horned God it's like "lol, gg."

ok, I'll restart and try again.

Had the same problem in mission 1, I think. Putzed around too long and got hammered.
 

Borealis7

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I also like to take my time, explore, raid dungeons to get Mythical shiny pretties...but sometimes the game forces you to rush. maybe it's only like that on Hard difficulty.
 

PowerYoga

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Am still stuck on the 2nd campaign mission.

Game is tough. Get so tired of failing over and over again.

I had a tough time with that one, I also putzed around researching and building while the enemy keeps getting stronger. They kept sending single guys to cap my towns, and I couldn't dump out enough troops to keep them occupied long enough to keep them. When I fortify my position they'd send stack of hero + tier 2-3 units that just run over my sad defense.

Eventually what I did was just build stacks of flamepot throwers and a shaman, and just kept it at choke point towns. That keeps the single cappers away long enough for me to build up the army and roll through a few towns. They're cheap and build fast, you can crank out a stack of 5 + shaman really easily. 2 fulls tacks will easily defend your town.

What kept me afloat offensively (and defensively on the odd occasion) was summon beast and summon demigod (or whatever that giant thing is). The beasts you can summon are ridiculously good (spider queens, electric serpent, etc) and they will be more than a match for even tier 3 units. The beasts have cheap upkeep and the summon casts quickly.

The flame throwers are really good on town defense, especially if you have some walls. they absolutely wreck tier 1 and 2s and with a shaman you can heal them up slightly as long as they don't have flying. They also rank up quickly. However they will get mauled in the open field and they will get demolished by tier 3s.

In the end I ended up using 2 hero stacks with some summoned giant things (3 of them) and some fliers and just demolished a few towns. You definitely need to keep 2-3 stacks back to recap stuff that gets taken though.
 

Borealis7

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I finally had some free time to finish the game, its the best TBS i've played in a while. i absolutely love it, that being said, i will not purchase the DLC because i saw it was only 2 new scenarios and not full campaigns. i hope they release more campaigns in the future.
 

Borealis7

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the AI hero did raze one of my towns after taking it, but that's because i made a B-line to his capital and he was about to lose.