Advice needed on tenant end of lease

[waggy]

Since I read 87% of this thread, I have earned the right to comment.

I've been a tenant. I've been a landlord for a long time. I treat people how I expect to be treated. Based on what I've read, you sound full of yourself and I wouldn't want to be your tenant or landlord.

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5) 1 month for a new stove? You were baiting everyone. If it worked partially and you were dealing with a repair person or something while actively working the situation, that's one thing ... if it really took 1 month for a stove, then you are a complete failure. Not everyone microwaves all their meals or eats at McDonalds bud.

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this is the thing screaming at me. a month to fix teh stove yet you are bitching about the fucking rug? that screams slumlord.

as a tenant anything over a week i would be on the phone with everyone i had to get it fixed. that is unacceptable. the fact that your tenant was ok with it is amazing. then you want to screw him around on the carpet? wow.

 

[EagleKeeper]

this is the thing screaming at me. a month to fix teh stove yet you are bitching about the fucking rug? that screams slumlord.

as a tenant anything over a week i would be on the phone with everyone i had to get it fixed. that is unacceptable. the fact that your tenant was ok with it is amazing. then you want to screw him around on the carpet? wow.

Realize that half the stove was workable.
And why a repair tech was not out there the following day (especially with a gas stove) is beyond comprehension and safety issues.

If the stove that was there met the landlords standards; it should not take more than a day or two to find something compatible; even in the manufacturer no longer existed.

 

[Schfifty Five]

God I love it when a thread backfires. This one may not be the best one, but should definitely be nominated for one of those ATOT backfire thread of the year awards.

 

[rudeguy]

God I love it when a thread backfires. This one may not be the best one, but should definitely be nominated for one of those ATOT backfire thread of the year awards.

pwnage of the year is coming up soon...

Whatever happened to the guy that got the wrong TV from Amazon?

 

[alkemyst]

True, 'research time to pick a good stove' shows the tenant was never in the interest of the landlord nor really renting this place.

The OP expects it to be in ready shape should he ever decide to move back just as the day he put it up for rent.

In reality, even the best rentals get trashed a bit. People are leveraging a security deposit over just being lazy and living in a temporary situation.

Here during polo season, rentals go for $5k+ a month...doesn't change having to replace carpets, drywall, and in one case someone using a brillo pad to clean a flat top stove...plus more.

 

[alkemyst]

pwnage of the year is coming up soon...

Whatever happened to the guy that got the wrong TV from Amazon?

No one ever fully quotes the OP in so many of these...they come back and do a "." edit.

 

[rudeguy]

No one ever fully quotes the OP in so many of these...they come back and do a "." edit.

I dunno...the mods will bring them back.

They did when I got pissed and deleted my android apps thread in GGP

 

[NetWareHead]

this is the thing screaming at me. a month to fix teh stove yet you are bitching about the fucking rug? that screams slumlord.

as a tenant anything over a week i would be on the phone with everyone i had to get it fixed. that is unacceptable. the fact that your tenant was ok with it is amazing. then you want to screw him around on the carpet? wow.

less than a month I said, 2 weeks i estimated since i dont accurately remember the exact date/timestamps

and yes, 2 burners went dead out of 4 so it wasnt exactly an emergency (which is why my tenant was OK with it). it was not like he could not cook at all

 

[NetWareHead]

Realize that half the stove was workable.
And why a repair tech was not out there the following day (especially with a gas stove) is beyond comprehension and safety issues.

If the stove that was there met the landlords standards; it should not take more than a day or two to find something compatible; even in the manufacturer no longer existed.

c'mon now. sometimes a repair tech can't always come immediately or the next day. And when he did come, he gave me the estimate the next day after he went back to his shop to look up part costs. I decided the fix was to much money to spend on an older stove and thats when i went to buy the new stove. The one I wanted had to be ordered and shipped which took a week. I gave my tenant each one of these updates and he was understanding. I dont have a pickup truck to go and pick up a stove and bring it back myself so I need to rely on the store delivery service. You people make it seem like appliance purchase is an instantaneous thing. Half of the time spent was waiting for shipment of the new stove...

 

[NetWareHead]

True, 'research time to pick a good stove' shows the tenant was never in the interest of the landlord nor really renting this place.

Right, lets just buy the first stove I run into walking into the store. Research is for morons obviously...

 

[NetWareHead]

God I love it when a thread backfires. This one may not be the best one, but should definitely be nominated for one of those ATOT backfire thread of the year awards.

Lets see now. I start the thread with intention of getting my tenant to clean carpet. Despite how much posters here have screamed and shouted, I still don't change my mind and ended up getting what I wanted. The thread backfired on me?

 

[Dr. Zaus]

Man, you've got ego problems.

 

[rommelrommel]

Lets see now. I start the thread with intention of getting my tenant to clean carpet. Despite how much posters here have screamed and shouted, I still don't change my mind and ended up getting what I wanted. The thread backfired on me?

Congrats, you chistled a couple hundred bucks out of a decent guy. You win teh internets.

 

[Number1]

Lets see now. I start the thread with intention of getting my tenant to clean carpet. Despite how much posters here have screamed and shouted, I still don't change my mind and ended up getting what I wanted. The thread backfired on me?

Your tenant was a push over with no back bone. I would have rented a carpet cleaning machine, provided you with a receipt and told you to pound sand if you were no happy with it. And taken you to court if you withheld any money due to the carpet not being cleaned "professionally", something you never included in the lease agreement.
So yes, you = (insert most derogatory term you can think off).

 

[sze5003]

My last apartment wanted carpet cleaning too. I had a bissel steam cleaner so I used that. Carpet was not damaged and I only lived there one year. The place itself was crappy and shit broke all the time. Rather than fixing it the rental company would send someone to jerry rig some stuff together until it broke the next time.

I cleaned that carpet twice with the steam cleaner I had and it looked better than when I moved in. The rental company never said anything.

 

[rommelrommel]

Interesting too that the thread is called "Advice needed..." more like "Please tell me that I'm not an asshole"

 

[SpatiallyAware]

My last apartment wanted carpet cleaning too. I had a bissel steam cleaner so I used that. Carpet was not damaged and I only lived there one year. The place itself was crappy and shit broke all the time. Rather than fixing it the rental company would send someone to jerry rig some stuff together until it broke the next time.

I cleaned that carpet twice with the steam cleaner I had and it looked better than when I moved in. The rental company never said anything.

You just perfectly described netwarehead. Most of these types of landlords have a home which is underwater, a mere byproduct of their other issues. They can barely pay the mortgage even with the rental income, so they can't replace appliances until their next paycheck and scam things like carpet cleaning out of good tenants.

Thankfully they don't last long. A couple of bad tenants can permanently put them out of the landlord-tenant game.

 

[Venix]

I'm not above driving 200+ miles to fix a problem on a unit that is in a prime location with great potential. There is a lucrative reason why i didn't sell it when I moved. Plus I have family still in the area who i have worked out a deal with to respond for me in case I can't immediately drive down.

Upside down? I knew better than to take a floating rate mortgage. If you want to know, this property is profitable and I have about 50% equity in it. Also just refinanced from 30 to 15 year mortgage 3 months ago so I'm in it for the long run.

The real estate guru act is entirely unconvincing, so I searched for other threads with "rent" in the title. The only result was this one where he admits that he didn't sell because "[he] will not be able to recoup the price [he] paid for it." Typical accidental landlord blowhard with a self-esteem problem.

 

[techofalltrades]

not gonna read the entire thread, but .. do you mention what STATE you live in?

It really depends on what the state laws regarding the issue are. You can put whatever you want in the lease, but if the state law overrides what you want... law wins.

In most states, The Landlord-Tenant Act does not specifically define normal wear and tear. Tenants can argue that wear and tear will be greater over time, and that it includes all normal uses of the premises. For example, wear of carpeting in a unit where a tenant has lived for 6 years will most likely be greater than wear after only 6 months.

In many states, Tenants are responsible for returning the unit to the condition it was in at the beginning of their tenancy, minus normal wear and tear. So good luck suing for carpet cleaning.

 

[Schfifty Five]

Lets see now. I start the thread with intention of getting my tenant to clean carpet. Despite how much posters here have screamed and shouted, I still don't change my mind and ended up getting what I wanted. The thread backfired on me?

You started the thread to get advice but ended up with everyone realizing what a tool you are. Thread backfired bro.

 

[alkemyst]

You just perfectly described netwarehead. Most of these types of landlords have a home which is underwater, a mere byproduct of their other issues. They can barely pay the mortgage even with the rental income, so they can't replace appliances until their next paycheck and scam things like carpet cleaning out of good tenants.

Thankfully they don't last long. A couple of bad tenants can permanently put them out of the landlord-tenant game.

About time you showed up with your "I got money in the bank" schtick.

Most people even if above water on their mortgages can't afford a major appliance out their typical paycheck...

gg

 

[SpatiallyAware]

If you can't afford a $1000 repair then you have no business being a landlord. Sell the rental, roll whatever you owe into your main home.

Or else you end up like netwearhead, illegally making a tenant go without some service while you get your shit together.


Don't hate, alky. You, of all people...

 

[Dr. Zaus]

About time you showed up with your "I got money in the bank" schtick.

Most people even if above water on their mortgages can't afford a major appliance out their typical paycheck...

gg

Seriously? 1) "out of their paycheck" isn't what you need, more like "out of their emergency fund" because they know this sort of thing happens all the time Alternatives (if you are fiscally sound) 2) Delay one month of 401k contributions 3) Delay your double-payment on your mortgage 4) put it on a credit card or get a short-term consumer loan 5) Trade out your stove so that you don't stick someone with a broken stove for weeks on end.

 

[ponyo]

The real estate guru act is entirely unconvincing, so I searched for other threads with "rent" in the title. The only result was this one where he admits that he didn't sell because "[he] will not be able to recoup the price [he] paid for it." Typical accidental landlord blowhard with a self-esteem problem.

That's too funny. There was another thread recently where OP was asking how to find out the residency status of potential painters. He didn't want to use one painter even though the guy was like $1,000 cheaper because the guy was illegal. And he's here arguing over $50 carpet clean on 8 yr old carpet while he's willing to pay $2,000 to repaint his rental. Meanwhile, professional landlords will pay $200 to get 1200 sq ft unit painted and another $1,000 for new carpet for the new resident.

 

[alkemyst]

If you can't afford a $1000 repair then you have no business being a landlord. Sell the rental, roll whatever you owe into your main home.

Or else you end up like netwearhead, illegally making a tenant go without some service while you get your shit together.


Don't hate, alky. You, of all people...

I can agree with that a bit. However; many are struggling to rent out their properties and have no avenue to sell it.

Our government changed the bankruptcy laws majorly over the years and it's totally nearly impossible for those that want to file to do so if they are making an average salary or even better.

I think the current rate for a Chap 7 is about $5k paid up front.