Adoption / Abortion

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u peeps should download a seinfeld eps (forgot %#@ eps name)

it has a bit on abortion, funny, not too deep, but entertaining

 

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now i remember, it was "the couch"

also George Carlin's back in town album track #1 is on abortion

 

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Interesting Article

 

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Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Riprorin
There are laws to make dads support their children. Is that a "punishment" for being sexual?

If you don't want to get preganant use birth contol or don't have sex.

the provision of money in no way equals the risk of bodily harm in carrying a pregnancy thru to delivery, As far as child support money goes,women are also required to pay $$$ towards rearing their children,try asking single mothers who don't collect child support even when it's been ordered,I'm sure you might be able to find a couple of them around.

It's not a perfect analogy, but I think that point is valid. The potential consequences of having sex are pregnancy for the women and material support for the father. Neither are punishments. Both are simply the consequences of having sex.

You want to have your cake and eat it to: Actions with no consequences.

Because having to go through an abortion is a piece of cake and no consequence at all?

How many women who have had abortions have you talked to? how many have you taken to the hospital?

You don't have a clue what you're talking about, do you?

I meant the natutal consequences of the action. I suspect that having an abortion is a lot more traumatic and life altering for many women than going through a pregnancy.

I haven't talked directly to any women who have had abortions. I would guess that many women are loathe to admit they've had an abortion. It's generally not a topic that comes up.

My wife's two pregancies were planned and I don't have any personal experience with abortion. If I was the parent of a child I would provide emotional and material support whether the child ws planned or not.

I guess it those imposed moral traditions at work again...

Of course you would, i would do the same, but not because of moral traditions... so don't try to tell me that those who do not share your moral traditions cannot be kind loving people...

Now, i'm off to bed, may respond again tomorrow...

Where did I say that those do not share my moral traditions cannont be kind, loving people? Please don't try to vilify those who disagree with you.

It's like saying, i am a smart individual... guess that it's those atheist values at work again... thereby implying that if you do not share my atheist values you cannot be smart...

Do you understand what i mean? It might not be meant the way i read it, but that's the way i read it and it has nothing to do with me disagreeing with you, you are very welcome to your opinion...

 

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Riprorin

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: Riprorin
There are laws to make dads support their children. Is that a "punishment" for being sexual?

If you don't want to get preganant use birth contol or don't have sex.

There are laws that make dads support their children, but there are NO laws that make dads take care of their children, do you understand the difference?

And how many dads have to go through nine months of pregnancy (except Arnie)?

If you don't want to get pregnant, don't use birth control because it can fail, that only leaves becoming a nun...

Sorry ladies, but no sex for you...

No sex maybe a viable option for some women that don't want to have to choose between an unwanted pregnancy and abortion.

Yes, for some women it may be, but for most? I don't think so, in my experience women are just as horny as men, it's a natural thing sometimes held back by imposed moral traditions...

I happen to think that moral traditions are good things. They weren't imposed on me, but for most part, I bought into them and I' glad I did. I suspect that it's saved me a lot of heartache.

That's the nice thing about having a choice.. you and your wife are free to choose the outcome of any pregnancies that might occur,nobody is going to force abortion on you.

EXACTLY! It's all about being free to choose...