Adoption / Abortion

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bozack

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Faustuo didn't miss it at all, just still think that they would rather get the chance to take a shot at life no matter how awful the system is than the alternative option of being obliterated without any say in the matter, it is people like you that keep abortion a viable form of birth control :)


Also let me get this straight, since I am against abortion especially when the option of adoption is mentioned as in this thread that automatically classifys me as "ignorant", just assuming that is what you meant when you posted this:

"Thanks. I thought it was pretty funny to see you look about as smart as your comments would indicate."

So basically since I do not agree with you I am ignorant, right.

also nice to see you ask permission before linking to anyones images..shows just how mature and intelligent you are, fyi that picture was taken six years ago and now because of you I have had to pull it from my site, thanks.
 

nakedfrog

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bozack, I assume you've spent a lot of time in the ghetto. Life is really wonderful there, that's why all the songs about life in the ghetto are about rainbows and puppies.
 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: bozack
Faustuo didn't miss it at all, just still think that they would rather get the chance to take a shot at life than be murdered but that is my take on it.
Fine and well. Leave out the "those who disagree with me are morons" next time and everyone goes home happy.

also nice to see you ask permission before linking to anyones images..shows just how mature and intelligent you are.
My bad.

Better?:p
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
bozack, I assume you've spent a lot of time in the ghetto. Life is really wonderful there, that's why all the songs about life in the ghetto are about rainbows and puppies.

Not at all naked, but if you had the choice right now of living in the ghetto and trying to make something of your life and possible advancement or being capped in the face which would you chose?? personally I think anyone would be a fool not to choose the former, unless you have absolutely no motivation and are an absolute waste of space then you might just chose death.
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Fausto1 Better?

Great, now I know exactly what kind of a winner I am dealing with, someone that goes to the trouble of saving my pic and then rehosting it on their site edited for the purpose of a joke....glad to know, pretty funny...sad that someone would bother taking the time.

 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: bozack
Originally posted by: Fausto1 Better?

Great, now I know exactly what kind of a winner I am dealing with, someone that goes to the trouble of saving my pic and then rehosting it on their site edited for the purpose of a joke....glad to know, pretty funny...sad that someone would bother taking the time.
Blah, blah, blah, blah. Nice job editing your posts after the fact to make yourself look like less of a clown. You were the first in the thread to take a negative tone and call everyone counter to your position "morons" so you can stick your righteous indignation up your ass, okay?

 

gordy

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Imagine spending 65 years or so knowing that a piece of your heart is wandering around out there someplace and that if they are sick or being abused that you are powerless to help them and that it's happening because you gave them away.

omg, yeah! better just kill him/her[baby] outright....

rolleye.gif
 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Fausto1blah, blah, blah, blah. Nice job editing your posts after the fact to make yourself look like less of a clown. You were the first in the thread to take a negative tone and call everyone counter to your position "morons" so you can stick your righteous indignation up your ass, okay?

I edited one post asshat, not because I was worried about what it said but rather I had more which I wanted to add to it, and furthermore what should it matter if I were the first or the last person in the thread to take a negative tone, I think the fact that my opinions do not agree with yours are what really got you going...and anyone that would take a woman and stretch marks as a viable excuse in my opinion is a moron plain and simple...if you fit that description then so be it.

Still is besides the point, anyone that would go to the trouble of saving and editing a pic is pretty pitiful....oh well what goes around comes around.

 

Fausto

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Originally posted by: bozack
[]Originally posted by: Fausto1blah, blah, blah, blah. Nice job editing your posts after the fact to make yourself look like less of a clown. You were the first in the thread to take a negative tone and call everyone counter to your position "morons" so you can stick your righteous indignation up your ass, okay?

I edited one post asshat, not because I was worried about what it said but rather I had more which I wanted to add to it, and furthermore what should it matter if I were the first or the last person in the thread to take a negative tone, I think the fact that my opinions do not agree with yours are what really got you going...and anyone that would take a woman and stretch marks as a viable excuse in my opinion is a moron plain and simple...if you fit that description then so be it.
Hehe....keep digging, hypocrite. You called everyone who thinks there are reasons beyond rape/medical issues for abortion (and I gave you an excellent example) morons and I'm somehow the one who can't deal with opposing opinions? Nowhere in this thread did I tee off on anyone for saying something contrary to my beliefs, I simply asserted my opinion that the last thing the child welfare system in the US needs is a greater influx of children. I gave plenty of examples of what happens to the kids that fall through the cracks. Position + support for position.

 

bozack

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Originally posted by: Fausto1Hehe....keep digging, hypocrite. You called everyone who thinks there are reasons beyond rape/medical issues for abortion (and I gave you an excellent example) morons and I'm somehow the one who can't deal with opposing opinions? Nowhere in this thread did I tee off on anyone for saying something contrary to my beliefs, I simply asserted my opinion that the last thing the child welfare system in the US needs is a greater influx of children. I gave plenty of examples of what happens to the kids that fall through the cracks. Position + support for position.

Did you bother to read my post initially? or did you just skim it over and then take what you wanted from it?...because I posted this:

all of the ones such as stretch marks, looking ugly, and having to deal with carrying the child for 9 months are really something the mother should have thought about before she had sex which led to her pregnancy...they are lame excuses for abortion and anyone that would consider them viable in my opinion is a moron.

and yet you come back with the notion:

You called everyone who thinks there are reasons beyond rape/medical issues for abortion morons

How does this:

all of the ones such as stretch marks, looking ugly, and having to deal with carrying the child for 9 months are really something the mother should have thought about before she had sex which led to her pregnancy...they are lame excuses for abortion and anyone that would consider them viable in my opinion is a moron.

equal this:

You called everyone who thinks there are reasons beyond rape/medical issues for abortion morons

please enlighten me as I am just anxious to see the logic behind this one.

or do yout take issue with this:

other than rape or possible medical problems and or death there really are no viable reasons why anyone would chose abortion over adoption

which was how I opened my post and is very different from the way you worded it, or how you interpreted my post...if you cannot figure out on your own that my opening statement is only opinion, well then you might want to further your education.
 

BDawg

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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Well, THIS thread turned out about as well as expected...

That's like throwing a match into a powder keg and thinking it will be okay.
 

TripperJoe

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Originally posted by: BDawg
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Well, THIS thread turned out about as well as expected...

That's like throwing a match into a powder keg and thinking it will be okay.

It is okay. You just have to stand far enough back. Oh and wear earplugs.

:D
 

ILikeStuff

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Imagine spending 65 years or so knowing that a piece of your heart is wandering around out there someplace and that if they are sick or being abused that you are powerless to help them and that it's happening because you gave them away.

... So you should just murder them so you don't have to worry. Not saying that isn't something that goes through their head, but I can't help that the thought of a mother murdering her own child because she doens't want to have to worry about the child or that the child may interfere with her career or they are just plain irresponsible makes me sick to my stomach.
 

jhu

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There is no real reason why someone should get an abortion...people are lazy and dont want to have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Nobody has the right to take a like of another, and whoever said that they do not have the money to pay for a child, this country gives away so much money to people, it is sickening


take a look at romania from 1960-1989. they had a great system where orphanages are overfilled because access to birth control (and abortion) was heavily restricted.

So you should just murder them so you don't have to worry. Not saying that isn't something that goes through their head, but I can't help that the thought of a mother murdering her own child because she doens't want to have to worry about the child or that the child may interfere with her career or they are just plain irresponsible makes me sick to my stomach.

with respect to that, i hope you're a vegetarian.
 

Geekbabe

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I'm not thrilled about abortion however I'm even less thrilled with the enforcement of motherhood at all costs on women as puinshment for being sexual.
 

Yax

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Okay, lets say she chose adoption. The kid grows up in foster care, abused and hated. Becomes a druggy, or serial killer and kills hundreds of people since his or her mother didn't want him/her. Is this scenerio possible? Not likely, but possible. Now would something like this be possible if the women chose abortion of the child she could not care for? :p
 

Yax

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Originally posted by: jhu
There is no real reason why someone should get an abortion...people are lazy and dont want to have to deal with the consequences of their actions. Nobody has the right to take a like of another, and whoever said that they do not have the money to pay for a child, this country gives away so much money to people, it is sickening


take a look at romania from 1960-1989. they had a great system where orphanages are overfilled because access to birth control (and abortion) was heavily restricted.

So you should just murder them so you don't have to worry. Not saying that isn't something that goes through their head, but I can't help that the thought of a mother murdering her own child because she doens't want to have to worry about the child or that the child may interfere with her career or they are just plain irresponsible makes me sick to my stomach.

with respect to that, i hope you're a vegetarian.


So, you shouldn't have sex at all because then you'd be killing millions of sperm cells when they go racing into your condom. Sperm cells are alive too and have a right to life.
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I'm not thrilled about abortion however I'm even less thrilled with the enforcement of motherhood at all costs on women as puinshment for being sexual.

Pregancy is a consequence of an action and not a punishment.
 

SnapIT

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Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I'm not thrilled about abortion however I'm even less thrilled with the enforcement of motherhood at all costs on women as puinshment for being sexual.

Pregancy is a consequence of an action and not a punishment.

Most punishments are consequenses of an action...
 

Riprorin

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Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: Riprorin
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
I'm not thrilled about abortion however I'm even less thrilled with the enforcement of motherhood at all costs on women as puinshment for being sexual.

Pregancy is a consequence of an action and not a punishment.

Most punishments are consequenses of an action...

And what actions are punishable by pregnancy?