Accidentally got DS3 965G instead of DS3 965P

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amddude

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The OS doesn't come into it. What happens is, it just plain doesn't detect my sata devices in the bios. It actually tries to boot off my ide drives because it doesn't see my sata ones. I am very eager to see your screenshots to see if there's something I've missed.

Edit: The sata drives also do not show if you go into cmos. Only displays ide drives.

Second Edit: Any word on that new bios Gary?
 

88NovaTwincam

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I guess that is the debt one must pay for living in Fry's country!

Yea I never realizied all the great e-vendors are in cali and how un-hawt that is for you fry-hoppers :)
 

DLPARISI

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I got this same board (G965-DS3) and am having almost identical problems with it and a C2D E6400. For a while I couldn't overclock past 310 as well without it losing the sata drive. I switched the cable from the gold to the purple and that seems ok now. I've still got problems though getting anything over 330. If I go higher it won't boot (no problem there, I realize I've got to boost voltages, tweak, etc). But now whatever I set in the bios gets ignored!!! It always boots at 2.13 ghz! The only way I seem to be able to fix this (I think) is clearing the CMOS - loading BIOS defaults doesn't resolve this. Is there some failsafe in the bios that I'm missing. I bought this board becasue I didn't want a graphics card (it's just for rendering) but if necessary I'll return and get an ASUS P5B and get a cheapo card to stick in it.

And what about this new BIOS that Gary is refering to?? (I'm running f3 now but had same problems with F2)

Thanks a bunch,
David
 

Gary Key

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Originally posted by: amddude
The OS doesn't come into it. What happens is, it just plain doesn't detect my sata devices in the bios. It actually tries to boot off my ide drives because it doesn't see my sata ones. I am very eager to see your screenshots to see if there's something I've missed.

Edit: The sata drives also do not show if you go into cmos. Only displays ide drives.

Second Edit: Any word on that new bios Gary?



It might be this weekend on the bios. I think we figured out the overclocking issue. I am running a series of different hard drives today, already found your issue with a Raptor. Can you go above 310 with EasyTune? I have spots in the bios where it will just recycle and others where it will boot fine (385 as an example) at this point.
 

amddude

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Easytune 5 never opens when I run the executable. I am not sure why, going to try installing from the cd tonight. I run windows server 2003 on my desktop, so it's possible there's some sort of incompatibility. I would still love those screenshots whenever you get them and appreciate the help you've offered.

Edit: I will try 385 and see what happend as well.
 

DLPARISI

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It might be this weekend on the bios. I think we figured out the overclocking issue. I am running a series of different hard drives today, already found your issue with a Raptor. Can you go above 310 with EasyTune? I have spots in the bios where it will just recycle and others where it will boot fine (385 as an example) at this point.
I think you directed this at amddude but here goes... Right now it's in it's "recycle" mode where it refuses to boot at anything besides stock at 2.13. Easy tune does nothing different. Some other specs that may help: Seagate 7200 250gb HD, Windows x64, corsair XPS 2gb-6400 (c5) RAM.

AMDDUDE: After clicking easytune it minimizes to the system tray-double click from there to bring it up.

David
 

amddude

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Mine is not minimizing to the tray, it never appears there. Checked just now to make sure. :(

Edit: Also will try to switch sata to other color
 

Gary Key

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We figured out the drive issue, requires a bios change. Do not have a date yet but they will work over the weekend on it. My board now will not post past 325 without losing the drive (any drive) after changing SATA 0-3 setting to Enhanced mode, even after changing it back to Legacy mode the board is stuck at 325FSB. That is where the issue is occuring now and appears to be a conflict between the ICH8 and JMicron controller chips.

EasyTune will not work properly in 64-bit mode.
 

Gary Key

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Originally posted by: DLPARISI
I think you directed this at amddude but here goes... Right now it's in it's "recycle" mode where it refuses to boot at anything besides stock at 2.13. Easy tune does nothing different. Some other specs that may help: Seagate 7200 250gb HD, Windows x64, corsair XPS 2gb-6400 (c5) RAM.

AMDDUDE: After clicking easytune it minimizes to the system tray-double click from there to bring it up.

David

Have you set your memory divider to 2 to see if it boots properly with a mild overclock? Remember on the Gigabyte boards that Ctrl-F1 will offer additional bios settings to control memory timings and other items.

 

Ricochet

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Originally posted by: DLPARISI
I got this same board (G965-DS3) and am having almost identical problems with it and a C2D E6400. For a while I couldn't overclock past 310 as well without it losing the sata drive. I switched the cable from the gold to the purple and that seems ok now. I've still got problems though getting anything over 330. If I go higher it won't boot (no problem there, I realize I've got to boost voltages, tweak, etc). But now whatever I set in the bios gets ignored!!! It always boots at 2.13 ghz! The only way I seem to be able to fix this (I think) is clearing the CMOS - loading BIOS defaults doesn't resolve this. Is there some failsafe in the bios that I'm missing. I bought this board becasue I didn't want a graphics card (it's just for rendering) but if necessary I'll return and get an ASUS P5B and get a cheapo card to stick in it.

And what about this new BIOS that Gary is refering to?? (I'm running f3 now but had same problems with F2)

Thanks a bunch,
David

That's how exactly mine behaved. Doesn't matter what I set, it boots at the stock speed. When I have time this weekend I will clear the CMOS and see what I can do with it.

My rig:
E6400 + Scythe MINE
965G-DS3
2x 1 gig OCZ DDR2-800 Platinum
XFX Geforce7800GT 256mb + Silencer
300 gig sata-2 Maxtor hd
NEC ND-3550A DVD burner
Antec P180 case with Neo HE 500 P.S.


 

DLPARISI

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Have you set your memory divider to 2 to see if it boots properly with a mild overclock? Remember on the Gigabyte boards that Ctrl-F1 will offer additional bios settings to control memory timings and other items.
Yeah I can get it to overclock to around 330 with Ctrl+F1 but anything past that and I get into trouble and the thing just ignores any changes after that. I unfortunately don't have time right now to mess with it and keep reseting.

Perhaps this new BIOS will fix it. Thanks for looking into it.

I had a feeling easytune wouldn't work in x64 :frown:
 

Gary Key

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I received a beta bios from Gigabyte this morning that is suppose to address the overclocking/SATA issue. I will test it out later today, if it works then we will host it.
 

Gary Key

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Turns out the F4B bios is the exact same as the F4A beta, must have been mis-labeled, still some issues with certain hard drives getting over 330FSB. I am on the phone with Gigabyte now. Sorry.
 

Roy2001

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I almost did the same thing :) I realized it as price was a little higher than I expected for P965-DS3.
 

MW15Fan

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Hey guys,

I've been following this thread very closely over the last week. I have a 965g coming in the mail tomorrow. I was wondering if any more progress was made concerning the bios. I would really like to use this board to overclock and hoping that the new bios will fix this issue.

Thanks
 

Tea97

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Sep 22, 2006
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Hi all, I am a 965G-DS3 user from Hong Kong, we have also the same problem, anyone who are using S-ATA port 0(Intel one) can't o/c over FSB 310, if use port 4(the gigabyte one) then can overclock to about 330 but no more.

But even using IDE I can only overclock to about 370 but no more(my CPU/Ram can o/c to about 480 on a 965P board), I had already email gigabyte and waiting their reply, I think/wish it is relate to the bios just like the asus 965P not long time ago(370 FBS max problem). Hope not relate to the on board display.....
 

hans007

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well the g965 is a completely different but pin compatible die to the p965.

i would assume with it having a graphics controller on board which is still physically powered even when a real video card is installed it probably would either o/c equally well, or o/c less well. i doubt it would be better though.

i have a g965 and well i don't (and can't on this board) o/c . its a good chipset, but i dont think its the best choice for hard core overclocking.
 

Yacko75

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I also ordered this board by mistake from newegg, guess I should pay more attention when I'm ordering stuff. I have an E6600 with 2GB of G.Skill F2-6400PHU2 memory. I have seen the same problems as everyone else here, can't get over the FSB over 300Mhz myself, but the ram can reach clear up over 1000Mhz without a problem. I do like this motherboard, its rock solid at default, but not a great overclocker like its big brother with the 965P. I did notice when I was overclocking using the onboard video there was a lot of errors/terroring in the video output. So I think the extra space for the graphics processor really doesn't help with the heat disapation etc.


How long until the new bios again?