Originally posted by: flxnimprtmscl
Originally posted by: j@cko
Originally posted by: fyleow
English motherfvcker, do you speak it?
Oh... and where is Taiwan in the space race?
Isn't "space race" a bit of a misnomer at this point? No race lasts for 30 years after the winner has been determined.
who says the winner has been determined? some people view "space race" as more than just getting into space itself.
you should read more history books about exploration... it's not about who gets there first, it's about who does things first. nobody really cares that some chinese monk in 500 ad made it to america, because the chinese didn't do anything there. no countries have really done anything terribly significant in space in terms of colonization yet, so just hold your horses
wait until china is evenly match to the US??
that would not be a good idea.... chinese government is till run by communism..... and only god knows what they would do next...... communism is very dangerous~~
that would not be a good idea.... chinese government is till run by communism..... and only god knows what they would do next...... communism is very dangerous~~
If China and the U.S. decided to start a race right now, the objective being to land a man on the moon, quite frankly I suspect China would win.
We have had the technology to send a man to mars for around 15 years. I think the estimates are 3 years to build what we need and $5 billion to get it done.
I don?t see Chinese stepchild launching anything other than their mouth, or could it because Taiwanese couldn?t spare a dog for the space program?
I wouldn't sneeze at an Olympic bronze medallion, and this is something that is much greater than a sporting event.
Well, PRC in its current form has NEVER owned Taiwan. After WWII it was "Liberated" and "given" to ROC. It has been more Independent longer than PRC. The former leadership in ROC shot itself in the foot by insisting on a one China policy, it worked until the world sided with PRC.
Taiwan should be an Independent and a seperate state. PRC should try to get Mongolia back first, they have more legitimite claim to that than Taiwan.
I bet you didn't know the president of Taiwan was just recently in the USA. China used to get mad at USA for even allowing a "former" leader of ROC to visit USA. I guess they got over it.
Sorry man, you need to read up a little. It will only take a year to fly a manned spacecraft to Mars. Probes can do it in 6 months.
uh ok... i don't recall ever saying anything to that effect, i was just saying that you're jumping to conclusions too quickly.
IMO, nations that send someone into space aren't the best place to live among, heck, that's right. It's better to live in a small and rich country that doesn't have a big military or any other crap like that and none of that space crap either. It's all achieved at the cost of the lowered quality of life of the country's citizens.
Chinese govern body =! to communism.
To me it is a form of corrupt/dictator socialist.
And, first living thing into space were a dog in 1957 & first man was 1961 Russian (or 40+ years ago).
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Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
If China and the U.S. decided to start a race right now, the objective being to land a man on the moon, quite frankly I suspect China would win.
I don't think so.
All NASA has to do is dust off the plans for the Saturn V or install some extra fuel tanks in the space shuttle's payload bay.
In any event I am sure that NASA could dig up one or two people that remember how we did it before.
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China cannot race the US in space, they're too far behind. The new space race is between China and India.
China's illustrious attitude makes me ill. The leaderships ego is beyond anything displayed by other governments. They preach this benevolent message of comradery and equality amoung citizens, yet can completely erase the incident in which a failed rocket landed on a town of 40,000 killing pretty much everyone.
Prestige hunting fools.
China's illustrious attitude makes me ill. The leaderships ego is beyond anything displayed by other governments. They preach this benevolent message of comradery and equality amoung citizens, yet can completely erase the incident in which a failed rocket landed on a town of 40,000 killing pretty much everyone.
Prestige hunting fools.
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Except that would probably be a 1 way trip. Unless there is some new technology developed to speed up space travel in the next 10-15 years I don't think so. The astronauts bones would be so brittle by the time they did the round trip that they would have serious health problems if they ever cameback to earth.
Do you have a link about that failed rocket? Never heard of that before.
I agree with you that they're way too far behind the US... you're probably right about the new space race being between China and India.
They're probably hunting for prestige too, but I think one of the other reasons they even have space programs is to keep some of their brainpower in the country.
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: ShotgunSteve
If China and the U.S. decided to start a race right now, the objective being to land a man on the moon, quite frankly I suspect China would win.
I don't think so.
All NASA has to do is dust off the plans for the Saturn V or install some extra fuel tanks in the space shuttle's payload bay.
In any event I am sure that NASA could dig up one or two people that remember how we did it before.
Actually, the majority of them have died. The U.S. is incapable of getting to the moon at this point, and to gear things back up to the way they were would give the Chinese more than enough time to catch up.
He was in USA as a tourist. He didn't have any political status when visiting. No US officials could meet with him.
I agree that Taiwan is still part of the nationalist and that China never "owned" Taiwan. If that's the case it only means the war is not over and China could invade Taiwan to close the chapter of all this dispute. I just hope Taiwan doesn't declare indep or I'm pretty sure war will begin.
Oh, and no.. I don't think the US will defend Taiwan and go on an all out war with China. US already told Taiwan that it doesn't want them to declare independence, but to mantain the status quo.
LOL...only a handful of countries recognize Taiwan instead of China. No UN representation. and they compete by the name of what?...Taipei in the olympics...oh and they cannot even use the kuomintang flag. Yeah...taiwan is as independent as china. The only way to determine who is the "real" China is a war to close the chapter. Taiwan would be destroyed regardless of anything.
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