A shocking act of terrorism in Israel

[JEDIYoda]

Israel could not maintain simultaneous unilateral long term (5+ years) total control over the countries I listed with air power alone.

Doesn`t need to be long term......swift and decisive will do the trick!!

 

[Red Dawn]

The decision to give that area of the M.E. to the Zionist has undoubtedly been the biggest mistake ever by the UN. The World would have been better off if they had been given parts of West Texas.

 

[Woofmeister]

Back on topic. It is unfair to tar all of Israel with the the isolated act of a tiny group of extremists. The response of the larger society is what matters and Israel shows its true colors by the actions of its religous and political leadership. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/world/middleeast/14mideast.html?ref=world

A delegation of Jewish religious leaders and activists, including some from West Bank settlements, tried to reach the village to express their abhorrence of the attack. But the Israeli Army prevented the group from entering Yasuf for security reasons as enraged villagers proclaimed that the visitors would not be welcome.

Over the weekend Israeli leaders harshly condemned the attack on the mosque. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said there was “no place for violence of any sort, neither Jews against Palestinians nor Palestinians against Jews.” He said he had ordered the security services to try to “apprehend the perpetrators and bring them to justice as quickly as possible.”

President Shimon Peres called the arson a “grave act” that “stands against all the values of the State of Israel.”

The chief rabbi of Israel planned to visit Yasuf on Monday.

The contrast between the Israeli response to an act of terrorism (albeit one in which nobody was injured) perpetrated its own people and the response by the Arab World to terrorism perpetrated by Moslems indicates the side most deserving of our support.

 

[Harabec]

I myself am tired of these kids being handled with care by the army. If it was up to me they'de be shot and thrown to the sea.

I should note that the opinion expressed above has nothing to do with my political orientation. I just think they're leeches, sucking the life out of everything they touch.

 

[Dari]

The decision to give that area of the M.E. to the Zionist has undoubtedly been the biggest mistake ever by the UN. The World would have been better off if they had been given parts of West Texas.

Somebody had to pay for humiliating and beating up the Jews. May as well be the Arabs...

 

[Jaskalas]

A shocking act of terrorism in Israel

Vandals who set fire are a shocking act of terrorism? I wonder what you would have referred to the suicide bombings in cafes as. At least in this case no one has died or been injured.

While I feel sorry for the group that did this, they must be stopped and brought to justice. I would demand their turn their attention to their own government instead of attacking Palestinians. Perhaps they know the Palestinians are a softer target. Either way I oppose their actions.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Somebody had to pay for humiliating and beating up the Jews. May as well be the Arabs...

Since when is rounding up Jews and shipping them off to camps to be exterminated "humiliation"?

You could have called it "humiliating had they been a nation and had there own land and their own military and been defeated by the German`s..
As it was was they were niether. Instead they were a scattered people.
I don`t understand why you use the word-- "humiliating" unless your as goofy and idiotic as you come accross as being!

 

[werepossum]

Isn't it funny how a "shocking act of terrorism" on the part of the Jews would be admirable restraint on the part of the Muslims? No smuggled bombs blew shoppers limb from limb, no women were beheaded, no schoolchildren were shot in the back, just a place of worship vandalized. Would that the Muslims showed such restraint.

Isn't it also funny how the majority of Israelis condemned the act, as opposed to Palestinians dancing in the streets to celebrate the latest murdered Jews?

 

[jonks]

The vandals fled the scene.

This aint a scene, it's a goddamned arms race.

 

[Dari]

Since when is rounding up Jews and shipping them off to camps to be exterminated "humiliation"?

You could have called it "humiliating had they been a nation and had there own land and their own military and been defeated by the German`s..
As it was was they were niether. Instead they were a scattered people.
I don`t understand why you use the word-- "humiliating" unless your as goofy and idiotic as you come accross as being!

It was humiliating. Whatever pride, dignity they had was lost to the debasing and awful way they were treated. Whether the Jew was wealthy, a professor, or someone of a higher class, it did not matter. Their country either failed to protect them or turned on them. Perhaps you are the goofy one?

 

[JSt0rm]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TL4XZdyo3g

 

[Nemesis 1]

You are delisional and actually have no clue what people in Israel want!!

You got that right, They haven't a clue. So tell us.

 

[JEDIYoda]

It was humiliating. Whatever pride, dignity they had was lost to the debasing and awful way they were treated. Whether the Jew was wealthy, a professor, or someone of a higher class, it did not matter. Their country either failed to protect them or turned on them. Perhaps you are the goofy one?

all depends on your perspective....
The Jews didn`t have a country back then. The jews living in Germany were singled out by the very country they lived in.

To somebody on the outside you could concievably call it humuliating the way they were treated but that was not the case at all. Most still held their heads up high with dignity and pride!

You are the goofy one to think for a minute you understand how they felt!
They did what they had to do to survive!

But that`s OK Dari..I know you have no clue. Ignorance must be bliss!!

 

[JEDIYoda]

You got that right, They haven't a clue. So tell us.

I don`t need to say a word. Anything I would say there is noway you would understand or even attempt to understand!!

Why do all your work??
Read up on the subject yourself..
Have you ever lived in Israel?
Do you have friend and family in Israel?

Probably not...so again...how your anybody know what the israli people want without knowing them and understanding the culture??

 

[Zebo]

Israel is entitled to all the West Bank, Sinai, Gaza and south Leb for the same reasons that allowed the French to incorporate, once and for all, Alsace-Lorraine. Aggressors who lose do not keep the spoils and in fact lose their front in most cases. Arab states and their shock troops "Palestinians" have been aggressors even before the state was declared and the aggression - the Jihad - continued constantly with diplomatic and economic boycotts, terror and outright open warfare to this day. No, Israel is entitled to much much more than little settlements.

 

[Dari]

all depends on your perspective....
The Jews didn`t have a country back then. The jews living in Germany were singled out by the very country they lived in.

To somebody on the outside you could concievably call it humuliating the way they were treated but that was not the case at all. Most still held their heads up high with dignity and pride!

You are the goofy one to think for a minute you understand how they felt!
They did what they had to do to survive!

But that`s OK Dari..I know you have no clue. Ignorance must be bliss!!

And I'm sure you know how they felt, right? You claim to know a lot in this thread but offer nothing to back up these claims. Anyway, you repeated what I said and I have no doubt that, in addition to other emotions, they certainly felt humiliated.

 

[fallout man]

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Vandals who set fire are a shocking act of terrorism? I wonder what you would have referred to the suicide bombings in cafes as. At least in this case no one has died or been injured.

I would have referred to them as shocking acts of terrorism. The loss of life and limb is not the only dimension, in my opinion, by which a "terrorist" act is judged. What's so shocking to me as an observer is that this act is based on an underlying agenda of the "price-tag" policy that some of Israel's most fervent followers of their religion of peace shamelessly admit to and advocate.

By the way, what year was the last cafe bombing? The number of times these bombings are brought up seems to suggest that they're still a daily occurrence.

While I feel sorry for the group that did this, they must be stopped and brought to justice. I would demand their turn their attention to their own government instead of attacking Palestinians. Perhaps they know the Palestinians are a softer target. Either way I oppose their actions.

This we can agree on.

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[Zebo]

Somebody had to pay for humiliating and beating up the Jews. May as well be the Arabs...

Bullshit They bought the land, a dry desolate wasteland by all accounts from that time, from Ottoman Turks for hundreds of years prior to establishment of Israel. Not to mention their historical claims. That's the perfect natural spot for a Jewish state it's jut Muslims can't stand it as once what was Dar Islam must remain Dar Islam according to allah.

 

[fallout man]

_________have been aggressors even before the state was declared and the aggression continued constantly with diplomatic and economic boycotts, terror and outright open warfare to this day because Israel feels entitled to much much more than little settlements.

Fixed it for you. What's good for the goose must surely be good for the gander, no?

 

[Nemesis 1]

Well actually Zebo has made the best points in this thread . In war the victor gets the spoils, But that rule seems to have changed with Israel kicking Moslem ass. Giving back won lands is a mistake. Thats why wars are fought or use to be fought. Now its just to kill people under many differant pretenses. War is wrong and its ugly but you have to pay a price for losing . The loss of land is reseasonable . After all thats how the jews lost a country.

As for the Arabs /Jews let us not forget Bible history . Both were father by Abraham . The jews mother was Sarah a jew, The Arabs mother was a decendent of cain an egyptain hand maiden . So let the half brothers fight it out , I to can here Able cring for justic from the grave . We best stay the hell out of this thing .

As for the UN making Israel a state again not true . That deal was made between Rothschild(Ratschild) and England around the time of world war I It was just enforced in 1947 by the UN who takes orders from Ratschild and other bankers . History is funny it tells a story .

 

[JEDIYoda]

And I'm sure you know how they felt, right? You claim to know a lot in this thread but offer nothing to back up these claims. Anyway, you repeated what I said and I have no doubt that, in addition to other emotions, they certainly felt humiliated.

See you are abvioulsy stoopid or just plain stoopid or once again just don`t know anything about anybody on these forums.....

I am Jewish and an Israeli citizen and I have family in israel and a son in the IDF and I travel to Israel once a year for a few moinths to visit and talk with people.

Oh, did I mention I had relatives in Poland who lived in the warsaw Ghetto and the tarnow Ghetto and were rounded up by the nazi`s and taken to extermination camps?
I also had relatives who escaped from poland due to some Polish citizens who bought what we owned for a pitance of it`s worth just so we could escape the Nazi`s....

nah I guess you had no clue as usual.....so again I make the factual statement you have no clue what the israeli people living in israel think!!

Shalom!

 

[JEDIYoda]

As for the UN making Israel a state again not true . That deal was made between Rothschild(Ratschild) and England around the time of world war I It was just enforced in 1947 by the UN who takes orders from Ratschild and other bankers . History is funny it tells a story .

Your account of History is funny and amazing, yet at least you have an working account of history..lol

 

[Dari]

See you are abvioulsy stoopid or just plain stoopid or once again just don`t know anything about anybody on these forums.....

I am Jewish and an Israeli citizen and I have family in israel and a son in the IDF and I travel to Israel once a year for a few moinths to visit and talk with people.

Oh, did I mention I had relatives in Poland who lived in the warsaw Ghetto and the tarnow Ghetto and were rounded up by the nazi`s and taken to extermination camps?
I also had relatives who escaped from poland due to some Polish citizens who bought what we owned for a pitance of it`s worth just so we could escape the Nazi`s....

nah I guess you had no clue as usual.....so again I make the factual statement you have no clue what the israeli people living in israel think!!

Shalom!

THEY WERE HUMILIATED. That's why one of the first act of the state of Israel was childish declaration by David ben-Gurion that Israeli passport was good for any country except Germany. I, too, would feel humiliated if my people were rounded up like cattle and killed en masse and there was no one I could turn to or was incredibly helpless in saving them. More than anything, it has to eat at you knowing how vulnerable they were and entirely at the mercy of wild beasts. There must've been deep shame at their impotence. Thank G-d the surviving Jews learned that survival is only guaranteed via power. If not, they would not have built up such a powerful network and mechanisms for dealing with their enemies.

You can deny it all you want and call me childish names but no one, especially men, can feel anything but humiliation at seeing his family slaughtered and not being able to fight back but beg for mercy.

 

[JEDIYoda]

THEY WERE HUMILIATED. That's why one of the first act of the state of Israel was childish declaration by David ben-Gurion that Israeli passport was good for any country except Germany. I, too, would feel humiliated if my people were rounded up like cattle and killed en masse and there was no one I could turn to or was incredibly helpless in saving them. More than anything, it has to eat at you knowing how vulnerable they were and entirely at the mercy of wild beasts. There must've been deep shame at their impotence. Thank G-d the surviving Jews learned that survival is only guaranteed via power. If not, they would not have built up such a powerful network and mechanisms for dealing with their enemies.

You can deny it all you want and call me childish names but no one, especially men, can feel anything but humiliation at seeing his family slaughtered and not being able to fight back but beg for mercy.

You have no idea the resolve and strength of mind my people had during that time of immense persecution and bloodshed.
As an outsider looking in of course that is what you would "think" people were feeling but on whole your statement just is not true or factual!!

 

[0marTheZealot]

You have no idea the resolve and strength of mind my people had during that time of immense persecution and bloodshed.
As an outsider looking in of course that is what you would "think" people were feeling but on whole your statement just is not true or factual!!

Please, Jews were selling out Jews in Poland, Hungary and every other occupied territory. There was no strength, you guys didn't even fight back.

And Israel is a transient state. In 50 years, it won't even exist as a Jewish majority anymore. You cannot beat the demographic trend. For every Jewish child born, there are 2.5 Arab children born. This is in Israel proper, not the occupied territories. Within 50 years, Israel proper will no longer exist as a Jewish nation.