A Seriously High Quality Public Person

[boomerang]

Do you think Trump will do the same (with his temperament it's seems likely) and if he does will you think it's different somehow?

No, I don't for the simple reason that Trump has spent most if not all of his adult life negotiating deals. I feel that he understands that give and take is a part of the process.

 

[brycejones]

No, I don't for the simple reason that Trump has spent most if not all of his adult life negotiating deals. I feel that he understands that give and take is a part of the process.

Followed apparently by backing out of the deal he agreed to.

 

[soundforbjt]

Followed apparently by backing out of the deal he agreed to.

He has a yuuugge reputation of it, he's the best...he proudly proclaims to be the king of debt. The deals/decisions made at the Presidential level are far above any stakes he's had so far.

 

[Vic]

No, I don't for the simple reason that Trump has spent most if not all of his adult life negotiating deals. I feel that he understands that give and take is a part of the process.

He's negotiating a deal right now. For your vote. And congratulations! you bought.

No, guy, I have done plenty of negotiations with guys like Trump. His whole game is tell you whatever want to hear until you're committed, and then he leverages you over. What sounded like a great deal steadily gets worse and worse in just small enough increments to convince you to stay committed right until you're fucked. He hasn't even closed on his biggest deal ever, and he's already doing it. How many of his early campaign promises has he already waffled on? Which promise was the one where he got your vote?
It's a suckers game. Best to cut your losses early.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

No, I don't for the simple reason that Trump has spent most if not all of his adult life negotiating deals. I feel that he understands that give and take is a part of the process.

It's been a long day, I needed a laugh, thanks. I owe ya one.

 

[glenn1]

Nope, he's asking you an entirely relevant question, which, for some reason, you are refusing to answer. Hey, I'm not trying to hector you, but, what would you have done differently, or, put another way, what specifically do you think Obama should have done that you believe would have worked?

The devil is in the details. The devil is always in the details. Don't be a Dub, do some nuance here. Hell, it's not even nuance, it's the absolute heart of the matter . . . what specifically would you have had him do differently, that you believe would have worked?

He's not refusing to answer, you and fskimospy just don't like the answer. And the entire premise of the question is flawed anyway, Obama isn't somehow owed successes by the universe. The Republicans are the opposition party and they have no reason to help Obama achieve the successes he seeks unless they agree with what he wants or one of the two sides can engineer a compromise. That's how an adversarial system of government works.

 

[MongGrel]

I know this is an over simplification, but you can throw a Hemi in a vehicle, and it will not function correctly if the transmission and rear end are not operational.

Congress has been a mess since the 60 vote went into effect.

Nothing happens in reality, it's became a "let them eat cake" mentality in general.

Trump would really expand on that, in a big way.

It is what he grew up doing.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-22/the-rnc-autopsy-in-the-shadow-of-donald-trump

 

[Jhhnn]

He's not refusing to answer, you and fskimospy just don't like the answer. And the entire premise of the question is flawed anyway, Obama isn't somehow owed successes by the universe. The Republicans are the opposition party and they have no reason to help Obama achieve the successes he seeks unless they agree with what he wants or one of the two sides can engineer a compromise. That's how an adversarial system of government works.

The country & the people are owed good faith efforts from their representatives to see to the proper operation of govt, something Repubs have simply refused to do during the Obama presidency. Their astounding disrespect for the institution of the SCOTUS & Merrick Garland is the crowning glory in all that they've done. They haven't set out to help run the govt but rather to cripple it & hold it hostage to their radical ideology.

 

[boomerang]

No, guy, I have done plenty of negotiations with guys like Trump.

Wow, really! And then an important guy like you has time to post here? I'm really impressed!

Hey, tell us how your negotiations go with people like Hillary. Please, please, please?

 

[agent00f]

Wow, really! And then an important guy like you has time to post here? I'm really impressed!

Hey, tell us how your negotiations go with people like Hillary. Please, please, please?

Fyi, just because you're impressed by trump doesn't mean anyone somewhat familiar with business are. Trump is basically what rubes think a successful business person looks like, which rather explains why his more notable successes other than maybe not running his father's business into the ground have been a reality show and assorted low level scams.

Clinton is a centrist/compromise type which means she'll typically be content with meeting the other side in the middle.

 

[disappoint]

Michelle Obama. Mho, but, to my mind, she's the real deal package of dignity, integrity, intelligence and class.

Here's a 9 minute interview on Colbert.

And here's the 6 minute "blanket fort" skit she did with Colbert just before the above interview. She really acquitted herself well! No wonder Melania stole from her for her speech!

From all I've been able to glean, admittedly from afar, she and Barack have a vibrantly genuine and loving relationship with each other, and with their two daughters. Quality people.

I firmly believe history will treat Obama's 8 years well, in high regard, given the obdurate a priori intransigence the Republicans rained down on him from day one on.

I think I'd vote for her over the 2 choices we'll have in Nov. every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'm not sure only because she hasn't been through the scrutiny that they have but I have a feeling if she ran for president she'd do quite well.

 

[agent00f]

I think I'd vote for her over the 2 choices we'll have in Nov. every day of the week and twice on Sunday. I'm not sure only because she hasn't been through the scrutiny that they have but I have a feeling if she ran for president she'd do quite well.

Wait until you hear from breitbart that she's a man.

 

[boomerang]

Fyi, just because you're impressed by trump doesn't mean anyone somewhat familiar with business are. Trump is basically what rubes think a successful business person looks like, which rather explains why his more notable successes other than maybe not running his father's business into the ground have been a reality show and assorted low level scams.

Clinton is a centrist/compromise type which means she'll typically be content with meeting the other side in the middle.

For me, your lectures hold no value.

 

[agent00f]

For me, your lectures hold no value.

Guess they're not as captivating as trump u lectures.

 

[disappoint]

Wait until you hear from breitbart that she's a man.

Nonsense really doesn't have much of an effect on me. I'm of the opinion that no one really believes that, and that they only say it to get attention.

 

[agent00f]

Nonsense really doesn't have much of an effect on me. I'm of the opinion that no one really believes that, and that they only say it to get attention.

They sure do say a lot of things to get attention, like obama is a kenyan muslim. Not sure I'd agree with that opinion no one really believes it.

 

[disappoint]

They sure do say a lot of things to get attention, like obama is a kenyan muslim.

Yes that's another great example of the same attention seeking behavior that displays how they're out of touch with reality.

Not sure I'd agree with that opinion no one really believes it.

Probably not worth mentioning until you are more sure of what you want to say.

 

[agent00f]

Yes that's another great example of the same attention seeking behavior that displays how they're out of touch with reality.

Probably not worth mentioning until you are more sure of what you want to say.

Trying pondering it for a while because it's not easy to make that sentence any simpler.

 

[MongGrel]

Probably not worth mentioning until you are more sure of what you want to say.

You should take your own advice more often.

 

[disappoint]

Trying pondering it for a while because it's not easy to make that sentence any simpler.

Ponder this: You're not sure. I am sure.

 

[agent00f]

Ponder this: You're not sure. I am sure.

Pretty sure you have poor pondering skills.

 

[Jaskalas]

But doesn't it matter? If an outcome was literally impossible then it would make no sense to hold it against him, right?

My opinion is that getting Republicans to buy in was literally impossible because Republican legislators had zero political incentive to work with him. All I'm asking for is some idea from you of what actions Obama could have taken to achieve the results that you wanted.

I tend to agree with this. I say the country cannot be governed, this is what I mean. 60+ vote requirement in the Senate is crazy.

 

[disappoint]

Pretty sure you have poor pondering skills.

Good to see I influenced you to post more confidently. Just be careful you don't make any mistakes while on that high perch because the fall could be more catastrophic to your ego if you don't know how to handle it.

 

[fskimospy]

I tend to agree with this. I say the country cannot be governed, this is what I mean. 60+ vote requirement in the Senate is crazy.

Yes, I think the filibuster has to be eliminated and the sooner the better. That holds even if, god forbid, Trump somehow wins in November.

 

[MongGrel]

Good to see I influenced you to post more confidently. Just be careful you don't make any mistakes while on that high perch because the fall could be more catastrophic to your ego if you don't know how to handle it.

You are the one who thinks he is always right and posts off the cuff all the time, irregardless of what anyone else says.

That is a very high perch.

But back on topic.

http://www.thehill.com/blogs/ballot...rogates-to-stump-for-clinton-following-debate