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A Seriously High Quality Public Person

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I don't know how you can dislike Michelle Obama, even if you don't agree with her politics. She could definitely make a good presidential candidate in the next decade.
 
Well, she's accomplished (or, tried to accomplish) more than her husband did before he got elected. The question is, can she read from a teleprompter as well?
 
J00r 0wn3r said:
That's not very nice.
Furthermore I know you're an SJW AKA "Lemming"
As is every staff member.What If I came to change that?
Because that's ridiculous.
Pardon me for not being a voice in your echo chamber.Do you need to go to your safe space now?
I'll get the SJWs. ousted 'round here.
How does that make you feel?
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I feel that you will fail.
 
Perknose said:
Michelle Obama. Mho, but, to my mind, she's the real deal package of dignity, integrity, intelligence and class.

From all I've been able to glean, admittedly from afar, she and Barack have a vibrantly genuine and loving relationship with each other, and with their two daughters. Quality people.
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Too many examples of the opposite out there for me to believe your claim... [shrug]

I firmly believe history will treat Obama's 8 years well, in high regard, given the obdurate a priori intransigence the Republicans rained down on him from day one on.
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Wow.... that is some seriously impressive ass-kissery! I haven't even seen Trump supporters go to those heights of sycophancy! (Except maybe Milo Y...)
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Aside from the fact that I'm somewhat biased what with Obama being from Hawaii and all, I have kept tabs on Michelle throughout Obama's terms in office, and quite frankly I can honestly say that Michelle has been an exemplary First Lady that has represented our country quite well.

Besides, she even had the audacity to live through the trials and tribulations of being First Lady without the need for an astrologer.
 
realibrad said:
Depends on what you think he did to help the economy. Their depression was mainly caused by run away inflation and demolished infrastructure. The inflation was caused by insane payments required after WWI. To make the payments, they printed massive amounts of money which ruined the value of the money. Germany paid in supplies too, but that was not as big of a factor. The 2nd issue of infrastructure was addressed when the payments stopped. Those policies would not have been unique to Hitler.

Globally the depression was going on. Resources were limited to try and force Germany to pay. There was some attempts at enforcement, but ultimately not continued. At the same time, the Nazi party came to power and pushed for national pride. This had an effect on the people who already felt the payments were too large. When the payments stopped, Germany was allowed to rebuild.

Pre WWI Germany was already in industrial powerhouse. It makes sense they would be able to rebuild if they were not being stopped. So, Hitler was more along for the ride than anything.
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I agree he was mostly along for the ride, but I think you didn't mention that the reparations were over a year before Hitler took power. He could take credit for that as an agitator only.

In power, Hitler's main contribution to the economy was massive rearmament. Then again, he didn't really run the German economy because he had little interest in it. It was run first by Schacht and later, Goring.
 
J00r 0wn3r said:
Michael Obama is a drag queen.Ptuh.Ain't never that much lumpiness in a female.
Ask the kids how their school lunches are doing.
A serious stain on America.That ain't no Tampax.
Reminds me of the statue of David.

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Just when I thought I'd seen the worst the internet had to offer. Sheesh, I love a good conspiracy theory, but this one crosses the line.
 
tweaker2 said:
Aside from the fact that I'm somewhat biased what with Obama being from Hawaii and all, I have kept tabs on Michelle throughout Obama's terms in office, and quite frankly I can honestly say that Michelle has been an exemplary First Lady that has represented our country quite well.

Besides, she even had the audacity to live through the trials and tribulations of being First Lady without the need for an astrologer.
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So it was all downhill for you after she declared that for the first time in her adult life she was proud of her country? That's good to know. Do you think she'll still be proud on January 21st?
 
Jaskalas said:
Would you really want me to dig in on that? Given who, in his meek nature and naivety, he handed foreign policy over to? Perhaps you wouldn't want to touch on the regime changes, the terrorists we armed, or the genocide as a result. After all, President Obama has a nice family... it's the personal touch that counts, not the bodies left in the wake, right?
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It is really hard to tell though. Compared to Bush (perhaps the worst president in history), Obama seems to be an outstanding President. I don't think you would disagree that Obama was better than Bush, you would just disagree on the magnitude of the improvement.
 
Jhhnn said:
I thought Obama was a gun grabbing Jade Helm FEMA camp Muslim tyrant who wasn't born in this country... How could I have been so wrong?
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Well were you expecting republicans to accuse him of being a better corporatist than themselves in bed with the same Wall Street and the Banksters types?
 
woolfe9998 said:
I agree he was mostly along for the ride, but I think you didn't mention that the reparations were over a year before Hitler took power. He could take credit for that as an agitator only.

In power, Hitler's main contribution to the economy was massive rearmament. Then again, he didn't really run the German economy because he had little interest in it. It was run first by Schacht and later, Goring.
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He may have officially took power after, but his Nazi movement started well before that. I will give him credit for building national pride.

The rearmament was funds going toward something, but had it been anyone else, that money would have gone to somewhere too. Investment would have been done either way, and likely in a more productive way vs a war machine.
 
I'll throw my $.02 in. Obama has been a B- President. He's kept us out of expanding middle east problems, he's done what he can without help on the economy (I'll qualify this later), he's avoided serious scandal, he's done something regarding healthcare, he's got us speaking about proper policing.
He hasn't gotten much momentum on a solid banking, jobs or modifications to the ACA or controlling debt. I realize Congress has been impossible to bargain with but that is not an excuse he is the guy who has to get buy in to forge progress which he's only been marginally successful at.
 
bshole said:
It is really hard to tell though. Compared to Bush (perhaps the worst president in history), Obama seems to be an outstanding President. I don't think you would disagree that Obama was better than Bush, you would just disagree on the magnitude of the improvement.
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So many ways to examine that. Domestic, foreign, wars, etc.
The Iraq war is Bush's biggest mark, eclipsing anything else he may have done. Worst thing the United States has done in over a century.
It's hard to measure any other aspect of the man besides that one disaster.

Bush Vs Obama is complicated by Libya and Syria being a direct continuation of the Bush agenda. You could say Obama/Clinton did it more intelligently, but fermenting genocide is still a genocide. And America is poised to vote for even FURTHER continuation of the Bush policy. I mean, Bush was the worst... but it's not ending with the Presidents that follow him. Who is worse, the fool or the fool that follows him? We have the lesson of the Iraq war to teach us better... why are our leaders so stupid?

It's better that we haven't committed to any more occupations... but it's still really bad.
 
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Fanatical Meat said:
I'll throw my $.02 in. Obama has been a B- President. He's kept us out of expanding middle east problems, he's done what he can without help on the economy (I'll qualify this later), he's avoided serious scandal, he's done something regarding healthcare, he's got us speaking about proper policing.
He hasn't gotten much momentum on a solid banking, jobs or modifications to the ACA or controlling debt. I realize Congress has been impossible to bargain with but that is not an excuse he is the guy who has to get buy in to forge progress which he's only been marginally successful at.
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Serious question, what actions do you think Obama could take or could have taken that would have gotten Congress to buy in?
 
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