A Grasshopper Rant - Children

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: Zakath15

Originally posted by: MichaelD

You are so obviously trying to set me up. It's not that easy.

No, I'm asking a simple question. When you spank the child, are you trying to get their attention, or are you trying to physically harm them?

I already answered that question. Why would someone purposely try to physically harm their own kid? Unless they are a sicko and need a smack themselves.

Sometimes there's no other way to draw the child's attention to the fact that they are doing wrong than a good smack in the ass. When talking until you're blue in the face has a nil affect, then it's time to break out the spankings.

Then you would agree with Grasshopper's statement.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Well, I did forget about it, and I do apologize for that. However, your two years of fatherhood, when you weren't even an adult yet does not qualify you to speak on child rearing. Sorry.

15 months actually, not that it matters...

And you wonder why I drive a Suburban and why I just pushed Thumper into selling her Honda Accord and buying the new Dodge Durango she has now. I want protection around her and our kids. Car accidents scare the crap out of me, and very little in this world scares me...

I'm not trying to be mean. Please don't take it that way. I just feel that the trials and tribulations I've gone thru for the past 7+ years of trying to raise/educate my son in a two-household-parent situation has given me a helluva lotta insight as to the way things work.

The same goes back to you... The troubles you have had with your asshat ex does not mean you know what a normal, healthy relationship is supposed to be.

Your bitterness towards your ex clouds your judgement and causes a lot of people to tune you out. I personally think you would be a happier person if you forgave your ex and let it go.

It took me 5 years before I came to terms with what happened to me. During that time I was bitter and angry, I blamed the world for all my problems, I blamed God for doing that to me... I dropped out of high school because of it, didn't go to college because of it...

That was almost 10 years ago, I still cry sometimes when I think about it, that bit of pain is never going away...

: ( Hopper

 

[Sketcher]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Thanks, Doctor Spock. You should write a book. I've done quite well with my son, despite the quite untraditional Father-Son situation we have been forced into.

I will admit that you're right on one count, though; my bad experience has soured me greatly, however, I also see my own friends that are in traditional marriages w/kids become absolutely MISERABLE b/c of their kids. It's not all roses. My idea of a "trying experience" might not be yours at all. We all have different strengths and weaknesses.

Possibly, a child screaming for hours and throwing things doesn't faze you one bit...it infuriates me. OTOH, maybe you can't fix a car worth crap and get frustrated quickly (just an example) whereas I'll work at it all day until I get it right. Diff strengths and weaknesses.

Different strengths and weaknesses with very different and unrelated results. Your car will run well as a piece of machinery with no thought as to life. Your child is all about life.

Your child may wonder one day (whether he asks you or not) why it is that you can put so much effort and interest into fixing a car (or other time/effort consuming interest) and offer less patience and interest in him. He's not necessarily going to see his own poor behavior as being more than his Dad can handle and cut him slack, he's going to see that he is not the object of his father's affection.

Personally, I don't read Dr. Spock. I read little of anyone's parenting ethos. I just love my children and make their welfare and interests my own. I admit, having a very difficult child would stress my patience and challenge my best ideas - but that difficulty would not change my passion for loving that child and putting their needs first.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: Grasshopper27

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Well, I did forget about it, and I do apologize for that. However, your two years of fatherhood, when you weren't even an adult yet does not qualify you to speak on child rearing. Sorry.

15 months actually, not that it matters...

And you wonder why I drive a Suburban and why I just pushed Thumper into selling her Honda Accord and buying the new Dodge Durango she has now. I want protection around her and our kids. Car accidents scare the crap out of me, and very little in this world scares me...

I'm not trying to be mean. Please don't take it that way. I just feel that the trials and tribulations I've gone thru for the past 7+ years of trying to raise/educate my son in a two-household-parent situation has given me a helluva lotta insight as to the way things work.

The same goes back to you... The troubles you have had with your asshat ex does not mean you know what a normal, healthy relationship is supposed to be.

Your bitterness towards your ex clouds your judgement and causes a lot of people to tune you out. I personally think you would be a happier person if you forgave your ex and let it go.

It took me 5 years before I came to terms with what happened to me. During that time I was bitter and angry, I blamed the world for all my problems, I blamed God for doing that to me... I dropped out of high school because of it, didn't go to college because of it...

That was almost 10 years ago, I still cry sometimes when I think about it, that bit of pain is never going away...

: ( Hopper

Touche. My relationship w/that Wildebeast was anything but normal.

AFA people tuning me out goes, none of you pay my bills; I could care less. That's not bitter, that's just fact. This is an online forum, where we talk things over...if it went away tonight, I would miss it, but life would go on.

 

[Grasshopper27]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Touche. My relationship w/that Wildebeast was anything but normal.

Hehe...

"Wildebeast", that's funny...

AFA people tuning me out goes, none of you pay my bills; I could care less.

LOL!

That's even funnier... Thanks for making me laugh, I was crying just now because these posts made me think about Jessica and Jennifer all over again...

Life can be so unfair... There is a little peice of my heart that was permantly damaged when that happened... Thankfully I was able to prevent it from killing me (which I also considered once or twice back then)

It was a very hard day when I told Thumper about that... I had to tell her before we got engaged, she had to know that about me, she had a right to know...

: ) Hopper

 

[Grasshopper27]

Bump for Yenny's thread!!!