A few quotes from JonnyGuru on Overclocking the 8800GT ...

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
The was no "could possibly" or anything of the sort in his orignal claim. Rather, he claimed that the g92 is inhernetly unsuited for running the memory bus at 2000MHz and will fail. If that was actually proven by Nvidia and their partners testing then it would be valuble info, but since he later retracted that claim to authorty, his claim is left without anything to substantate it.

He never actually retracted his statement (ie. he never posted anything contrary to what he posted earlier).

His last post on the subject:
"I never said anything about memory dying.

What's I've said is just my opinion based on what I've seen. That's all. I've probably said too much and since people hold what I say in high regard (God knows why) it's been blown out of propotion. Sorry. Move on."

So, he didn't actually retract anything about the memory bus not being able to handle 2000MHz. It's hard to believe that the cards would die like that but well I'm not an electrical engineer nor do I have any privileged information from NVidia so I can't really say for sure. I actually feel like testing this out myself. If RV670 performs like crap then I'll buy a eVGA 8800GT and overclock it passed 2000MHz (hopefully) and see what happens in a couple of weeks.

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: thejez

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: thejez
Only one eVGA card comes clocked @ 2Ghz and I am not talking about that one... of course I may have been too vague in my question... I meant to only ask about non-factory 2Ghz overclocks...

Yes, non-factory overclocked cards from eVGA are covered for software overclocking under warranty.

ahhh ok cool! So i am confused over why this thread even matters... if the card is covered by warranty who really cares?? Yeah its a small pain to RMA... but you only have to do that *if* it dies...

Ok, let me re-cap. First of all, my intentions here were good and all I was doing was trying to help a few of you. That's all I ever try and do. I made the original post after seeing what JonnyGuru had said in a post on Hardforum. I thought this may be of some interest to EVGA users as well as Non-EVGA users who do not have lifetime warranties on their cards and do not have cards that come overclocked to begin and were also interested in doing some overclocking. I linked to every post including the last one of JonnyG's after ArchAngel pointed it out. No research required. Posts/Quotes were verified and linked to and I'll also be the first one to admit when I'm wrong and edit my posts accordingly giving credit where it's due, even if I don't care for the individual who is making the rebuttal post. Whether one chooses to believe what JonnyG has said, that up to you. Most of us here are perfectly capable of making our own decisions and draw our own conclusions.

 

[thejez]

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: thejez

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: thejez
Only one eVGA card comes clocked @ 2Ghz and I am not talking about that one... of course I may have been too vague in my question... I meant to only ask about non-factory 2Ghz overclocks...

Yes, non-factory overclocked cards from eVGA are covered for software overclocking under warranty.

ahhh ok cool! So i am confused over why this thread even matters... if the card is covered by warranty who really cares?? Yeah its a small pain to RMA... but you only have to do that *if* it dies...

Ok, let me re-cap. First of all, my intentions here were good and all I was doing was trying to help a few of you. That's all I ever try and do. I made the original post after seeing what JonnyGuru had said in a post on Hardforum. I thought this may be of some interest to EVGA users as well as Non-EVGA users who do not have lifetime warranties on their cards and do not have cards that come overclocked to begin and were also interested in doing some overclocking. I linked to every post including his last one of JonnyG's after ArchAngel pointed it out. No research required. Posts/Quotes were verified and linked to and I'll also be the first one to admit when I'm wrong and edit my posts accordingly giving credit where it's due, even if I don't care for the individual who is making th post. Whether one chooses to believe what JonnyG has said, that up to you. Most of here are capable of making our own decisions.

sorry! I didnt mean to sound like I was complaining about the OP... I think the OP is fine... so some guy said he has concerns... yeah ok time will tell -- let's see if he's a prophet... i am speaking more to the fact that people are going on and on about it like it matters in the end...

 

[ManWithNoName]

Originally posted by: thejez

Originally posted by: ManWithNoName

Originally posted by: thejez

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: thejez
Only one eVGA card comes clocked @ 2Ghz and I am not talking about that one... of course I may have been too vague in my question... I meant to only ask about non-factory 2Ghz overclocks...

Yes, non-factory overclocked cards from eVGA are covered for software overclocking under warranty.

ahhh ok cool! So i am confused over why this thread even matters... if the card is covered by warranty who really cares?? Yeah its a small pain to RMA... but you only have to do that *if* it dies...

Ok, let me re-cap. First of all, my intentions here were good and all I was doing was trying to help a few of you. That's all I ever try and do. I made the original post after seeing what JonnyGuru had said in a post on Hardforum. I thought this may be of some interest to EVGA users as well as Non-EVGA users who do not have lifetime warranties on their cards and do not have cards that come overclocked to begin and were also interested in doing some overclocking. I linked to every post including his last one of JonnyG's after ArchAngel pointed it out. No research required. Posts/Quotes were verified and linked to and I'll also be the first one to admit when I'm wrong and edit my posts accordingly giving credit where it's due, even if I don't care for the individual who is making th post. Whether one chooses to believe what JonnyG has said, that up to you. Most of here are capable of making our own decisions.

sorry! I didnt mean to sound like I was complaining about the OP... I think the OP is fine... so some guy said he has concerns... yeah ok time will tell -- let's see if he's a prophet... i am speaking more to the fact that people are going on and on about it like it matters in the end...

No need to apologize, and I hear you. That really wasn't directed at you anyway. I just used your post as spring-board to state my case one last time for the helluvit.

Peace-Out

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: thilan29
His last post on the subject:
...
What's I've said is just my opinion based on what I've seen. That's all.
....

So, he didn't actually retract anything about the memory bus not being able to handle 2000MHz. It's hard to believe that the cards would die like that but well I'm not an electrical engineer nor do I have any privileged information from NVidia so I can't really say for sure.

What you quoted there is the retraction as he reveals that his claim is just a statement of opinion, while he previously had suggested he had such privileged information of that claim being proved by testing.

 

[thilanliyan]

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
What you quoted there is the retraction as he reveals that his claim is just a statement of opinion, while he previously had suggested he had such privileged information of that claim being proved by testing.

Yeah his opinion of what he's seen from his contacts in the industry (read his 1st post). And considering he works for BFG and has SOME technical knowledge, I figure he would know something of what he's talking about, and is not just some marketing type just hyping/unhyping a product.

Anyway, I don't think this is really going anywhere...you're interpreting it differently than me. As I've said I seriously wonder if this is true and if I get a chance I WILL test it out myself.

 

[Modelworks]

As has been said, the ram is 2ghz and will run at 2ghz.
But the interface to that ram is the problem.
Either the clock generation on the chip or the heat dissipation on that interface chip is problematic. It wouldn't be the first time a interface chip did this.

I have several embedded micros that can not run at the rated speed when used in certain configurations for just the same reasons.

If it were me and I were the one looking to run the card all the time at 2ghz I would wait a few weeks. When problems like the above occur there will usually be a chip revision released to correct the problem.

 

[Golgatha]

All this fuss over overclocking the memory, when the real performance gains are had from the core and shader clocks. Set the memory at 1900Mhz and overclock the other settings to get your "uber leet" card people.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: thilan29

Originally posted by: TheSnowman
What you quoted there is the retraction as he reveals that his claim is just a statement of opinion, while he previously had suggested he had such privileged information of that claim being proved by testing.

Yeah his opinion of what he's seen from his contacts in the industry (read his 1st post). And considering he works for BFG and has SOME technical knowledge, I figure he would know something of what he's talking about, and is not just some marketing type just hyping/unhyping a product.

Anyway, I don't think this is really going anywhere...you're interpreting it differently than me. As I've said I seriously wonder if this is true and if I get a chance I WILL test it out myself.

It is his opinion based on some undisclosed information which may or may not even be logical. If it actual were a proven fact as he claimed in his first post, there would be no need for further testing and EVGA might as well start issuing RMAs now.

 

[DrMrLordX]

Originally posted by: thilan29

As I've said I seriously wonder if this is true and if I get a chance I WILL test it out myself.

Cool, please let us know what your results are if/when you do the testing. It is understandable if you do not have the time to do it or if it takes awhile to generate results or reach a definitive conclusion.